9-11-ten yrs Later

petros

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My bad, I forgot about the 20mm Vulcan fitted to the CF 18...
Any chance one of those puppies can shred an airliner into "phone book size pieces"?

They work well for levelling Mosques.

Any other questions before I head out to for Mass and brunch?
 

CDNBear

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Any chance one of those puppies can shred an airliner into "phone book size pieces"?
Yep. But you were talking about the shel of the airliner. You were talking about the wing box. Something you said was real tough.

It would take a squadron of Vulcan cannons to shred it.

Someone, would have noticed that many jets buzzing around.

So we're brought back to what made the wing box "Blow up good. Real good. While still in the air".

If it wasn't an air to air HSM, and it would take to many jets to shred it with a Vulcan.

What made it "Blow up good. Real good. While still in the air"?

They work well for levelling Mosques.
Mounted on a AC 130, with a far greater ammo capacity.

Any other questions before I head out to for Mass and brunch?
See above. Have fun.
 

talloola

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Yes they do,and I work construction,destruction and have also worked on a blasting crew.Now lets not go through all this again,there must be thousands of posts on this allready,give it up,Bush isnt that smart.

yeah, no conspiracy at all, pretty simple when explained by the right people

aviation fuel burned so hot it melted the steel beams, and the way the building was designed, as
each one gave way and fell onto other ones that were melting the weight accumulated, the
action continued right to the bottom, firstly from the melted beams, then continued as the
weight was far too much for anything below to carry.

it was not just the impact at all, without the fire burning that hot, all would have ended at
the damage where the planes entered the building.

its too bad this has to be explained, but unfortunately some 'want' a conspiracy theory so bad,
they will make up anything to create one.

the designers explained after the fact, that 'now' they have seen what that heat did to those beams, the
design was weak 'for such an event', BUT NO ONE EVER WOULD HAVE SUSPECTED ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.
 

JLM

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yeah, no conspiracy at all, pretty simple when explained by the right people

aviation fuel burned so hot it melted the steel beams, and the way the building was designed, as
each one gave way and fell onto other ones that were melting the weight accumulated, the
action continued right to the bottom, firstly from the melted beams, then continued as the
weight was far too much for anything below to carry.

it was not just the impact at all, without the fire burning that hot, all would have ended at
the damage where the planes entered the building.

its too bad this has to be explained, but unfortunately some 'want' a conspiracy theory so bad,
they will make up anything to create one.

the designers explained after the fact, that 'now' they have seen what that heat did to those beams, the
design was weak 'for such an event', BUT NO ONE EVER WOULD HAVE SUSPECTED ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.

You have a problem, Talloola- Only sane people understand and agree with you! :lol:

Wasnt Dick Cheney out hunting that day?

If you can call it "hunting"! :lol:
 

55Mercury

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yep. And still. Its imposible that a one sided airplane hit can collap's the buildings in a perfect demolition type free fall.
It is a fact.

Anyone that works construction knows this.

According to you, it seems, people that work in construction don't know much.

People that work in demolition of buildings would tell you that this kind of lop-sided fall would not be in the plans:





Does the top of that building appear to be coming straight down to you?
 

Angstrom

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Hey if you guy's want to keep believing in a lie be my guess.
My opinion is that it was a planed flag attack.

There is a chance I'm wrong ya I know, its still sure nice to live in a country
where I have the right to chooses what I believe.

Explosions where going off in many videos i've watched.
WTC7 droped perfectly like a controled demolition from what
I've seen.
 

CDNBear

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Hey if you guy's want to keep believing in a lie be my guess.
What lie do I believe?

My opinion is that it was a planed flag attack.
A what?

There is a chance I'm wrong ya I know, its still sure nice to live in a country
where I have the right to chooses what I believe.
More then just a chance.

Explosions where going off in many videos i've watched.
Ya, I've seen puffs of smoke come out of old pilot holes, and shafts, when detonating anfo above and underground too. It doesn't mean there were secondary or tertiary explosions.

WTC7 droped perfectly like a controled demolition from what
I've seen.
What videos were you watching? It took out parts of the surrounding buildings.
 

lone wolf

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Hey if you guy's want to keep believing in a lie be my guess.
My opinion is that it was a planed flag attack.

There is a chance I'm wrong ya I know, its still sure nice to live in a country
where I have the right to chooses what I believe.

Explosions where going off in many videos i've watched.
WTC7 droped perfectly like a controled demolition from what
I've seen.

Planed attack.... Yup.... That's whut them things with wings wuz
 

Goober

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Hey if you guy's want to keep believing in a lie be my guess.
My opinion is that it was a planed flag attack.

There is a chance I'm wrong ya I know, its still sure nice to live in a country
where I have the right to chooses what I believe.

Explosions where going off in many videos i've watched.
WTC7 droped perfectly like a controled demolition from what
I've seen.

Why son it shore iss guud to live in the land of beer, moonshine and Honey. Honey being my wife now, or for now, wuz ma sister till we got all hitched up.

I done noted what your pa siad a whiele ago - he wuz spekin of yuall when yu wer a yungun and all, he has hisself such a big head and all but a tad heavy being filled with seement ya know. I kin cee that thar ol head of yourn is real big now.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Our time would be better spent putting an end to the
injustices in the world, instead of mourning after the fact about a single act in history.

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Spot on. I have (personally ) come to dread Sept and how the media uses it to promote even more hatred , self pity , and keep the event alive in the populations mind so that it takes very little for it to go along with any war (under the umbrella of terrorsm)- or national securty ) and surrender willingly and happily even more rights in the false promise of national security

Terrorism is a fact of life and has been since mankind learned to walk and fight........be it for food , territory or over a female

It is not going to go away , no matter how many are slaughtered in the ;effort to obliterate them. The more of "them " the US kills, the more motivated they are to go fanatical and extreme against the US and west.

The US is NOT THE ONLY ONE...........that has been the target for terrorism. Yet the US is the only one that went off half cocked into protracted wars with motives other than stated.

Just because the 9-11 event was so dramatic and handled so dramatically ......does not make the terror event in Spain, London and other places any less significant. Yet they handled it as the CRIME that it is , and using crime solving procedures with none of the hysteria that US went into.

There is NO WAY that ;9-11 was an act by some fanatics only. The mastermind of this event is NOT :known. OBL became the figure head for the event.......and yet no real proof was provided. sure the (OBL and his sorry gang of misfits) were glad the event happened. and said so. They congratulated "those that orchestrated it"

There is also no way the USG did not have some input into the event -passively or actively. The USG has some very dark secrets of nasty operations around the world.........and not to include it as a consideration is being naive.

But the drama of that event immediately needed a scape goat. Too many anomalies occured and too many weird decisions were made that went against the idea that terrorists were the only ones behind the event.

But folks will believe what they want........and that is fine. That event achieved more than the USG would have hoped for and THAT is a FACT. It gave it the self appointed liberty to invade and occupy other nations that had resources that the US wanted control over and establish even more tangible tentacles in the region via massively obscene Embassies and of course military bases.

Personally, I can never accept the "official" STORY as it is mainly just that.: a STORY. Time will render the real truths as historians can be very determined in their search for facts and truths. A very good thing.

Just like the US "war on drugs"........ it makes no sense but makes a cute catch phrase for folks to latch on to . Drugs of one kind or another existed for along time. And will be part of society indefinately.
 

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Hey if you guy's want to keep believing in a lie be my guess.
My opinion is that it was a planed flag attack.

There is a chance I'm wrong ya I know, its still sure nice to live in a country
where I have the right to chooses what I believe.

Explosions where going off in many videos i've watched.
WTC7 droped perfectly like a controled demolition from what
I've seen.


9/11 Debunked: WTC 7's Collapse Explained - YouTube
 

gerryh

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Actually, obl admitted to it being an AQ operation. Not surprising though that you and your ilk prefer to ignore that fact or twist it. While I agree with you that the americans handled it wrong and then used it to their own advantage. They raised the perps from mass murdering criminals to martyrs and warriors. That is as far as my agreement goes. You and your kind decide to take it a giant leap beyond that with no proof. Speculation at best.