The Ontario Government wants to sell pot

Danbones

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The money grab is ON!
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You have pot clinics, and the cops, and the bureaucrats, and the courts...
really they are all just parts of the pot selling system
 

petros

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Wait until they learn there is not much profit in weed and then overprice it to pay Union pot store employees driving production and sale right back into the black market.
 

JLM

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. Drinking in moderation won't kill you like everything else done in moderation.

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People that don't drink or do drugs, even in moderation, are control freaks, case in point, Muslims. Another guy who's a teetotaler is Donald Trump. I rest my case.


You might want to rethink the bit about drinking in moderation. For some people one drink is too many and a thousand aren't enough! :)
 

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Wait until they learn there is not much profit in weed and then overprice it to pay Union pot store employees driving production and sale right back into the black market.

Exactly.
While BS will still insist that everything is fine.
 

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I suppose where the posted speed limit is 20 kmh, 25 could hardly be called speeding, but I'm not sure where safety is the issue it's the right time to get into semantics. :)

I was thinking more of when the speed limit is needlessly low because some bureaucrat decision rather than based on what the road was engineered for. Remember when the North Island Highway was built and the speed limit was set at 90k.? After several years and virtually every local politician had acquired a drawer full of speeding tickets it was raised to 120k.

My question to those who want to totally legalize marijuana: your arguments are about individual freedom which is understandable. But those who argue for legalization of marijuana are often portrayed as people addicted to pot and so there is always an element of bias to be presumed in their arguments. Do you therefore agree that even if you think pot should be legal that doesn’t necessarily mean pot is a good thing, and it’s not good for society if everyone was smoking pot? I’m not talking about medicinal use (the jury is still out on that), but purely recreational use. Given the massive damage caused by tobacco around the world, do we really need to have another generation destroyed by marijuana, even if you argue that marijuana is less dangerous than tobacco (again I’m not exactly sure if that’s true). This is the greatest problem I have with the legalization movement.

There are far more dangerous drugs the government authorizes to be put in your food and your body to keep the real drug pushers wealthy. Makes marijuana like a false flag event.

While I agree government should get out of selling liquor I don't agree with the rest of your post.

A glass of red wine a day lowers your chance of having a heart attack. Drinking in moderation won't kill you like everything else done in moderation.

People that don't drink or do drugs, even in moderation, are control freaks, case in point, Muslims. Another guy who's a teetotaler is Donald Trump. I rest my case.

SHould look in their medicine cabinets and see if they do drugs or not.

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Another Facebook meme!!!

Although this time he is actually right.
 
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JLM

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I was thinking more of when the speed limit is needlessly low because some bureaucrat decision rather than based on what the road was engineered for. Remember when the North Island Highway was built and the speed limit was set at 90k.? After several years and virtually every local politician had acquired a drawer full of speeding tickets it was raised to 120k.


I personally believe 100 kmh is plenty on any highway for a variety of reasons including some people aren't comfortable driving at super high speeds (I'm one of them), some vehicles aren't safe at high speeds and large differentials in driving speed creates problems like tail gating.
 

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There are far more dangerous drugs the government authorizes to be put in your food and your body to keep the real drug pushers wealthy. Makes marijuana like a false flag event.



That’s not really my question. It is: Since you admit that marijuana isn’t exactly a positive thing, especially when used for recreation, then why is there such a big movement to legalize it? To argue that there are more dangerous things out there (which I acknowledge) like alcohol and tobacco, so why should pot be outlawed, it would be more rational to say that since pot is outlawed, why not outlaw tobacco and alcohol too, since the latter are more dangerous than the former? Are we trying to make a better society or a worse one? You rationally agree that society would be better if no one smoked pot, if there simply wasn’t a demand for it. So at the very least you should argue that pot isn’t a good thing, and there should be an educational effort by the government to educate society and discourage them from not smoking pot, beginning in elementary school (like there is such an educational effort against drugs and alcohol in general). It seems to be that those who are part of the free cannabis movement are themselves pot smokers who simply want their bad habit to be legalized. They don’t care about anything else, it is the single most important issue for them, which makes people like me suspect that the movement to legalize pot doesn’t have any rational or objective underline basis.
 

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The LCBO needs to be abolished. It’s not the job of the government to be selling people liqor. That is ridiculous. The government needs to be completely neutral and stop the social engineering by promoting liqor. It is generally well known that consuming alcohol is unhealthy. The culture of beer drinking in Canada belongs to the most base and uneducated population. The government shouldn’t be encouraging such a culture, but actually educating against it. When I was in primary school in the early 2000s I remember the government’s strong educational program against tobacco and drugs. Alcohol needs to be added too. The school program of warning young people against the harm of tobacco and drugs is effective. People of my generation don’t smoke and that’s a good thing. But why didn’t the government include anti-alcohol message in this educational program too? Simply because of politics, otherwise there is no rational reason to preach against tobacco and drugs but exclude alcohol. In summary, end LCBO and start working towards getting rid of the alcohol culture in Canada through an aggressive educational program beginning in elementary school.


I happen to know many folks who have the occasional beer while watching a football game or simply for the pleasure of a cold beer on a hot summer day. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON FALLS INTO YOUR CATEGORY OF BASE AND UNEDUCATED. NOT ONE.

I suggest you watch Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition to see just what happened when the US decided to deny its citizens the ability to legally purchase and consume alcohol.

 

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I happen to know many folks who have the occasional beer while watching a football game or simply for the pleasure of a cold beer on a hot summer day. NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON FALLS INTO YOUR CATEGORY OF BASE AND UNEDUCATED. NOT ONE.

I suggest you watch Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition to see just what happened when the US decided to deny its citizens the ability to legally purchase and consume alcohol.

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Prohibition failed because the people are just too base and uneducated. Good laws often fail because the public suck.
 

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You might want to rethink the bit about drinking in moderation. For some people one drink is too many and a thousand aren't enough! :)

Ah, JLM were it not for moderation the majority of the population might very well be fat, drunk and stoned out of their minds.

Cliffy's answer to everything....


Another Facebook meme!!!

Maybe so, DS but I have to say, many of them are spot on with their message.



Prohibition failed because the people are just too base and uneducated. Good laws often fail because the public suck.


Prohibition failed because denying people the legal right to purchase and consume alcohol was a no-win situation from the beginning and unless you live in a totalitarian state that will always be the case. Thankfully, here in Canada we will always have the right to purchase and consume and though I am not much of a drinker I am happy that others are free to do so.

Your definition of a 'good law', thankfully, differs from the majority of Canadians.

 

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My question to those who want to totally legalize marijuana: your arguments are about individual freedom which is understandable. But those who argue for legalization of marijuana are often portrayed as people addicted to pot and so there is always an element of bias to be presumed in their arguments. Do you therefore agree that even if you think pot should be legal that doesn’t necessarily mean pot is a good thing, and it’s not good for society if everyone was smoking pot? I’m not talking about medicinal use (the jury is still out on that), but purely recreational use. Given the massive damage caused by tobacco around the world, do we really need to have another generation destroyed by marijuana, even if you argue that marijuana is less dangerous than tobacco (again I’m not exactly sure if that’s true). This is the greatest problem I have with the legalization movement.


I,m addicted to water not pot. I NEED water every day, cannabis not so much. Which previous generation was destroyed by cannabis? Anyone who can smoke a twenty-five pack of joints a day needs help.

 

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You might want to rethink the bit about drinking in moderation. For some people one drink is too many and a thousand aren't enough! :)
Do you understand what moderation means? Drinking a beer or a glass of wine at dinner. Even going out on the town and having 3 or 4 beers that night which will tide someone over for a week.

I'm bang on about teetotalers being control freaks.



Prohibition failed because the people are just too base and uneducated. Good laws often fail because the public suck.
There's no other race or religion more uneducated than Muslims.

Lemme guess? Shariah laws are good laws. Stoning women because they were raped is good. Killing apostates is good. Jailing critics of Islam is good. Jailing women that don't cover their hair is good. Throwing gays off rooftops is good.

Like I wrote earlier, Muslims, especially Muslim men are control freaks. They can't even control their sexual urges if they see a woman's hair.
 
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JLM

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Do you understand what moderation means? Drinking a beer or a glass of wine at dinner. Even going out on the town and having 3 or 4 beers that night which will tide someone over for a week.

I'm bang on about teetotalers being control freaks.


In your opinion. I'm about as close to a teetotaler (drank two beer in four years) as you can get. The only controls I care about is how my tax money gets squandered and the safety and well being of my family. You have to be careful not to "tar everyone with the same brush". :)

Ah, JLM were it not for moderation the majority of the population might very well be fat, drunk and stoned out of their minds.




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I totally agree with that. The problems lie with the other 5 or 10%. :)