Khadr to get 10.5 million payment for treason.
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Plea barganing.A fellow that worked for me many years ago once pled guilty for several crimes committed while he was in jail. Basically the deal was if he pled guilty to these along with a few rightful ones the cops could clear a bunch of petty crimes off the books and he would get a deuce less rather than federal time for the righteous ones.
Only a total dumb a** with a doofus for a lawyer would admit to 5 charges if there's conclusive contradictoty evidence. A court would never accept the plea. ..ever...if that was the case.
Regardless, a guilty plea satisfies the requirements for reasonable doubt. If you plead guilty, and if the court accepts your plea based on strict criteria, then you are guilty in the eyes of the court beyond "reasonable doubt".
Regardless of the motivation, buddy elected to assume responsibility for those crimes via the plea bargain.
Khadr has never retracted his admission of guilt.... It defies logic that anyone would still wonder if he was guilty or innocent.
You OBVIOIUSLY haven't been paying attention. I pointed out that innocent people have been convicted on the strength of admissions of guilt made while under duress or made while not of sound mind. What is there about these facts you don't understand?
I found that post completely understandable and logical, Cliffy.
I think it would go w/o saying that anyone spending 10 years in Guantanamo being tortured and water boarded would be under duress. I don't see it as rocket science!
Your hangup seems to be the definition of "resonable doubt". I've encouraged you to educate yourself on the matter several times, but you seem to be more interested in holding onto your deficient interpretation of the term and go on about how it can be interpreted differently based on ones feelings. It can't. It's a legal benchmark that must be attained to prosecute.You OBVIOIUSLY haven't been paying attention. I pointed out that innocent people have been convicted on the strength of admissions of guilt made while under duress or made while not of sound mind. What is there about these facts you don't understand?
I can't help your with your self delusion.
This is an outrage.
Khadr apology, payout is an insult to all the Canadian vets who fought for our right to torture imprisoned children
By: Andrew Scheer, Leader of the Official Opposition
Today, I was outraged to hear that the Trudeau government has agreed to pay $10.5 million and issue an apology to admitted terrorist Omar Khadr. This decision is a slap in the face to all of our men and women in uniform who defend our proud Canadian values of depriving any human rights to a fifteen-year-old child soldier.
Canada wouldn’t be Canada if its soldiers didn’t fight for its government to be complicit while its ally flaunted international laws by forcing prisoners to wear sensory deprivation gear for weeks while attack dogs leapt at their chests.
Do you think Canadian soldiers fought bravely during World War II to liberate Europe from tyranny and torture from the state? Or did you think the sacrifices made by Canadian peacekeepers throughout the world were to protect people from abusive governments and non-state actors? No, not at all. Quite the opposite. They were defending Canada’s value of extra-judicial military tribunals on people deemed to be a terrorist and suspending habeas corpus and due process rights.
From Vimy Ridge to Kandahar, Canadian soldiers have valiantly fought and fallen so that a teenager with severe injuries could be denied medical treatment. To quote John McCrae’s In Flanders Fields:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high
If ye don’t go along with the United States use of an illegal prison because you’re too scared to stand up to them,
we shall not sleep.
And let’s also not forget that 158 Canadian soldiers died in Afghanistan to defend my right to exploit their deaths for political purposes.
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/0...ets-fought-right-torture-imprisoned-children/
Khadr apology, payout is an insult to all the Canadian vets who fought for our right to torture imprisoned children
By: Andrew Scheer, Leader of the Official Opposition
Today, I was outraged to hear that the Trudeau government has agreed to pay $10.5 million and issue an apology to admitted terrorist Omar Khadr. This decision is a slap in the face to all of our men and women in uniform who defend our proud Canadian values of depriving any human rights to a fifteen-year-old child soldier.
Canada wouldn’t be Canada if its soldiers didn’t fight for its government to be complicit while its ally flaunted international laws by forcing prisoners to wear sensory deprivation gear for weeks while attack dogs leapt at their chests.
Do you think Canadian soldiers fought bravely during World War II to liberate Europe from tyranny and torture from the state? Or did you think the sacrifices made by Canadian peacekeepers throughout the world were to protect people from abusive governments and non-state actors? No, not at all. Quite the opposite. They were defending Canada’s value of extra-judicial military tribunals on people deemed to be a terrorist and suspending habeas corpus and due process rights.
From Vimy Ridge to Kandahar, Canadian soldiers have valiantly fought and fallen so that a teenager with severe injuries could be denied medical treatment. To quote John McCrae’s In Flanders Fields:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high
If ye don’t go along with the United States use of an illegal prison because you’re too scared to stand up to them,
we shall not sleep.
And let’s also not forget that 158 Canadian soldiers died in Afghanistan to defend my right to exploit their deaths for political purposes.
https://www.thebeaverton.com/2017/0...ets-fought-right-torture-imprisoned-children/
Oh, but their Canadian citizenships didn't warrant interference by our gov't. Oscar's situation was 'special' so it seems it's not who u are but who u know! The 2 guys in Indonesia were SOL! So basically if u do any travelling and end up in a situation u have no control over, some 'Canadians' are worth more than others and u better hope that u have the connections to get u out of the situation u find yourself in.
IMO
And there are videos to show how happy he was to be doing what he was doing! DUH!!!
No, the hangup is between your legally correct version and his real-world version.
He's deliberately using a different definition of the same word to either make a point or demonstrate his imbecility. Considering he utterly failed at the former, I guess it's gotta be the latter.
That's correct. Welcome to the real world.
The reasons I'm "failing" is because I've run into a couple of thick skulls, I'm guessing. I'm sure Ivan Henry could explain it to you guys much better than I can!
Hey, Bone head...............I guess you have first hand knowledge of what imbecility is like.