Maclean's: America dumbs down

Tonington

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Abortions have nothing to do with killing babies.

'Baby' only applies to humans after birth for pro-choice/pro-life arguments, except when people ask pregnant ladies if they have picked a name for their baby yet, or when they ask when the baby is due, etc. etc.. Almost as if to prove Tecumsehsbones point... that the word choice matters when these questions are asked.

Pragmatically, it doesn't matter what you call it, an abortion involves one death.
 

tay

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Sarah Palin says you're spitting on American soldiers' graves by criticizing the Duggars






America's founding fathers thought freedom of the press was pretty important. So important, in fact, that they made it the first amendment of the Constitution. As Americans, we have the right to criticize our government openly and without fear of legal repercussions.


But the Duggars are another story -- at least as far as Sarah Palin's interpretation of the Constitution is concerned.


The former governor of Alaska went off on the public for having "double standards" when it comes to the Duggars. In particular, she's upset that Lena Dunham's admission of looking at her sister's genitalia when they were both little kids did not elicit the same public outcry as Josh Duggar repeatedly molesting his much younger sisters when he was a teenager.


http://www.tvguide.com/news/duggars...=breakingnews&partnerid=worldnow&profileid=01In a Facebook post, the one-time vice presidential candidate calls Dunham a pedophile and accuses the "intolerant left" of letting her off the hook.


"The intolerant left's destructive personal intrusions and narrow-mindedness applied to their chosen targets are bad enough, but their double standards are beyond the pale," she writes.


It takes her four paragraphs to get to the "I'm not defending what Josh Duggar did" part of the statement. Oh right, that! Then she proceeds with a list of two things the media needs to focus on instead. Objective No. 1: A witch hunt for the "politically motivated law enforcement official" who leaked the documents in the first place.


"Media - time to go after her or him for illegalities and for destroying the public's trust in law enforcement," Palin wrote. (Because THAT'S what's eroding people's trust in the police: Too many information leaks! By that logic, those Ferguson and Baltimore protests were all about child molesters' right to privacy.)


Objective No. 2 is to stop criticizing the entire Duggar family for the actions of one family member, "while giving a total pass to perverted actions of someone like Lena Dunham - or any other leftwinger celeb caught doing awful things."


One might quibble that people are going after the Duggar *parents* for covering it up and failing to get counseling for their predator son or keep him away from their other kids, but that would be because one is a LIBERAL WITCH HUNTER who hates the Constitution and also doesn't support the troops who DIED for your rights.


"Such obvious double standards applied to equally relevant stories underestimate the wisdom of the public, discredit the press, and spit on the graves of every American who fought and died for the press's freedom," Palin writes.


You hear that? If you think Josh Duggar is disgusting and his parents facilitated his molestation, you hate the troops. They died for your right to freedom of speech, and you're using that speech in a way Sarah Palin disagrees with, so YOU'RE the true hypocrite.


Not that she's defending the Duggars or anything.






Sarah Palin says you're spitting on American soldiers' graves by criticizing the Duggars - NBC12 - WWBT - Richmond, VA News On Your Side
 

Sal

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Sarah Palin says you're spitting on American soldiers' graves by criticizing the Duggars






America's founding fathers thought freedom of the press was pretty important. So important, in fact, that they made it the first amendment of the Constitution. As Americans, we have the right to criticize our government openly and without fear of legal repercussions.


But the Duggars are another story -- at least as far as Sarah Palin's interpretation of the Constitution is concerned.


The former governor of Alaska went off on the public for having "double standards" when it comes to the Duggars. In particular, she's upset that Lena Dunham's admission of looking at her sister's genitalia when they were both little kids did not elicit the same public outcry as Josh Duggar repeatedly molesting his much younger sisters when he was a teenager.


In a Facebook post, the one-time vice presidential candidate calls Dunham a pedophile and accuses the "intolerant left" of letting her off the hook.


"The intolerant left's destructive personal intrusions and narrow-mindedness applied to their chosen targets are bad enough, but their double standards are beyond the pale," she writes.


It takes her four paragraphs to get to the "I'm not defending what Josh Duggar did" part of the statement. Oh right, that! Then she proceeds with a list of two things the media needs to focus on instead. Objective No. 1: A witch hunt for the "politically motivated law enforcement official" who leaked the documents in the first place.


"Media - time to go after her or him for illegalities and for destroying the public's trust in law enforcement," Palin wrote. (Because THAT'S what's eroding people's trust in the police: Too many information leaks! By that logic, those Ferguson and Baltimore protests were all about child molesters' right to privacy.)


Objective No. 2 is to stop criticizing the entire Duggar family for the actions of one family member, "while giving a total pass to perverted actions of someone like Lena Dunham - or any other leftwinger celeb caught doing awful things."


One might quibble that people are going after the Duggar *parents* for covering it up and failing to get counseling for their predator son or keep him away from their other kids, but that would be because one is a LIBERAL WITCH HUNTER who hates the Constitution and also doesn't support the troops who DIED for your rights.


"Such obvious double standards applied to equally relevant stories underestimate the wisdom of the public, discredit the press, and spit on the graves of every American who fought and died for the press's freedom," Palin writes.


You hear that? If you think Josh Duggar is disgusting and his parents facilitated his molestation, you hate the troops. They died for your right to freedom of speech, and you're using that speech in a way Sarah Palin disagrees with, so YOU'RE the true hypocrite.


Not that she's defending the Duggars or anything.






Sarah Palin says you're spitting on American soldiers' graves by criticizing the Duggars - NBC12 - WWBT - Richmond, VA News On Your Side

omg....I have to read this later but i damn near did a coffee choke...this should be a thread all by itself...the Duggars....love it
 

EagleSmack

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Read a book a few years back concerning this issue. Can't recall much about it. But hey, I'm an American and have been too dumbed down to have much of a memory.


Hey you're dumb?! I'm an American too!


 

darkbeaver

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Just goes to show that there are still places in the US that focus more on creationism than a robust science education.



"We actually have the lowest rate of violent deaths in our history on this planet".

But you've been educated (dumbed down) in the western way, there is no possibility of you proving your statement, you have heard it from some source and believe it is true, this is the exact unscientific dumbing down discussed in the article.

" Most perplexing, however, is where the stupid is flowing from. As conservative pundit David Frum recently noted, where it was once the least informed who were most vulnerable to inaccuracies, it now seems to be the exact opposite. “More sophisticated news consumers turn out to use this sophistication to do a better job of filtering out what they don’t want to hear,” he blogged."

And that individual should not ever be trusted to even provide the correct time. He's misinformation lizzard. Science is not under attack it cannot be attacked any more than a hammer can or a screwdriver. What is under attack is the instituions of science whaich have become the servents of money. It is always open season on institutionalized corruption.

Hey you're dumb?! I'm an American too!


You would still be dumb if you we're a Canadian.
 

tay

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Anti-intellectualism Is Killing America






In a country where a sitting congressman told a crowd that evolution and the Big Bang are “lies straight from the pit of hell,” (link is external) where the chairman of a Senate environmental panel brought a snowball (link is external) into the chamber as evidence that climate change is a hoax, where almost one in three citizens can’t name the vice president (link is external), it is beyond dispute that critical thinking has been abandoned as a cultural value. Our failure as a society to connect the dots, to see that such anti-intellectualism comes with a huge price, could eventually be our downfall.


Yes, even intelligent and educated individuals, often due to cultural and institutional influences, can sometimes carry racist biases. But critically thinking individuals recognize racism as wrong and undesirable, even if they aren’t yet able to eliminate every morsel of bias from their own psyches or from social institutions. An anti-intellectual society, however, will have large swaths of people who are motivated by fear, susceptible to tribalism and simplistic explanations, incapable of emotional maturity, and prone to violent solutions.



Sound familiar?


What Americans rarely acknowledge is that many of their social problems are rooted in the rejection of critical thinking or, conversely, the glorification of the emotional and irrational. What else could explain the hyper-patriotism (link is external) that has many accepting an outlandish notion that America is far superior to the rest of the world? Love of one’s country is fine, but many Americans seem to honestly believe that their country both invented and perfected the idea of freedom, that the quality of life here far surpasses everywhere else in the world.


But it doesn’t.


International quality of life rankings (link is external) place America barely in the top ten. America’s rates of murder (link is external) and other violent crime dwarf most of the rest of the developed world, as does its incarceration rate (link is external), while its rates of education and scientific literacy are embarrassingly low (link is external). American schools, claiming to uphold “traditional values,” avoid fact-based sex education, and thus we have the highest rates of teen pregnancy (link is external) in the industrialized world. And those rates are notably highest where so-called “biblical values” are prominent. Go outside the Bible belt, and the rates generally trend downward (link is external).




As this suggests, the impact of fundamentalist religion in driving American anti-intellectualism has been, and continues to be, immense. Old-fashioned notions of sex education may seem like a relatively minor issue to many, but taking old-time religion too seriously can be extremely dangerous in the modern era. High-ranking individuals, even in the military (link is external), see a confrontation between good and evil as biblically predicted and therefore inevitable. They relish the thought of being a righteous part of the final days.


Fundamentalist religion is also a major force in denying human-caused climate change (link is external), a phenomenon that the scientific community has accepted for years. Interestingly, anti-intellectual fundamentalists are joined in their climate change denial with unusual bedfellows: corporate interests (link is external) that stand to gain from the rejection of sound science on climate.


Corporate influence on climate and environmental policy, meanwhile, is simply more evidence of anti-intellectualism in action, for corporate domination of American society is another result of a public that is not thinking critically. Americans have allowed their democracy to slip away, their culture overtaken by enormous corporations that effectively control both the governmental apparatus and the media, thus shaping life around materialism and consumption.


Indeed, these corporate interests encourage anti-intellectualism, conditioning Americans into conformity and passive acceptance of institutional dominance. They are the ones who stand to gain from the absurd levels of fear and nationalism that result in militaristic foreign policy and absurdly high levels of military spending (link is external). They are the ones who stand to gain from consumers who spend money they don’t have on goods and services they don’t need. They are the ones who want a public that is largely uninformed and distracted, thus allowing government policy to be crafted by corporate lawyers and lobbyists. They are the ones who stand to gain from a prison-industrial complex that generates the highest rates of incarceration in the developed world. They are the ones who stand to gain from unregulated securities markets.


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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...01506/anti-intellectualism-is-killing-america
 

Blackleaf

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I can tell America's dumbed downed whenever I watch The Chase USA on Challenge and compare it with the original The Chase from Britain.

 

Blackleaf

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Figures.... Brits invented dumb games


On Britain's The Chase - the original and best - the questions are general knowledge: history, science, geography, natural history, philosophy, entertainment, sport etc.

On the American version, most of the questions seems to be on celebrities and showbiz.

Also, the original British version has four chasers - Mark Labbett, Shaun Wallace, Anne Hegerty and Paul Sinha (so you never know which chaser you are going to get in each episode; it's a surprise) - whereas the Yank version has just one - Mark Labbett. There are four contestants on the British version, but just three on the Yank version. I don't know why. Maybe they can't find enough clever Yanks to have four contestants on each show. The American version is also hosted by a dumb blonde who struggles to read some of the questions.


The Chase



The Chase USA
 

damngrumpy

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Didn't you know then end times are at hand we are all waiting for Jesus to arrive and fix it.
These people are trying to cover up our arrant ways and make ready for the Savior.
The world is only six thousand years old and God made the universe is six days on a dare.
Yes people are going crazy with fits of religion prescribed by a series of con men
The vast majority however are not crazy and they see through the game all the way to the bank/
Ant i Science is fostered by born again politicians to curry favor with specific voter blocks
nothing more They have expanded to take in the greenies and get them loving the good life
the chicken little crowd with their climate change used to be global warming they couldn't see that.
The climate changes all the time throughout history and its warming right now it will change
the same as the tides will go in and out All the hype is distraction for power and nothing more
left and right are in on the joke that feeds the societal machine gives us a cause the explains
why government can do what the hell it likes and left and right have nothing to do with it