Without a Safety Net: What kind of country do Canadians want?

petros

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I kinda thought that too. Both crashes were engineered demolitions. Those in the in crowd were fully aware and made a killing off the poor schmucks who went down the tubes and jumped out of windows.
The way gold and silver were being gobbled up indicated something was going to happen.
 

tay

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Tom Mulcair vows to restore Old Age Security eligibility to 65








Canadians have had enough," Mulcair said. "They’ve had enough of the revolving red and blue doors of Liberal and Conservative corruption and entitlement."


Mulcair said the Official Opposition will focus on middle-class priorities as it launches its campaign for the next federal election, expected to be held in 2015.


In aiming to take back the reins of the consumer agenda following the Conservative government's speech from the throne from last fall, Mulcair put forth practical ideas, including ensuring access to low-interest credit cards and ending fees at ATM machines and at gas pumps.


The party also intends to bolster small- and medium-sized businesses.


"We’re reaching out, we’re engaging local business owners, and we’re going to work together to find ways to help them grow and prosper."


A fair portion of Mulcair's speech reaffirmed the party's commitment to strengthening public pensions. He cited the recent meeting of provincial finance ministers to discuss the Canada Pension Plan, which ended with the provinces accusing the federal finance minister of blocking CPP reform.


"In a shameful betrayal of their own promises, this government turned its back on any semblance of leadership," Mulcair said.


Notably, Mulcair indicated that his party will call for a youth employment tax credit, as well restore the retirement age to 65. In the 2012 budget, the Conservative government had delayed the age at which workers could access Old Age Security benefits to 67.






Tom Mulcair vows to restore Old Age Security eligibility to 65 - Politics - CBC News
 

pgs

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Tom Mulcair vows to restore Old Age Security eligibility to 65








Canadians have had enough," Mulcair said. "They’ve had enough of the revolving red and blue doors of Liberal and Conservative corruption and entitlement."


Mulcair said the Official Opposition will focus on middle-class priorities as it launches its campaign for the next federal election, expected to be held in 2015.


In aiming to take back the reins of the consumer agenda following the Conservative government's speech from the throne from last fall, Mulcair put forth practical ideas, including ensuring access to low-interest credit cards and ending fees at ATM machines and at gas pumps.


The party also intends to bolster small- and medium-sized businesses.


"We’re reaching out, we’re engaging local business owners, and we’re going to work together to find ways to help them grow and prosper."


A fair portion of Mulcair's speech reaffirmed the party's commitment to strengthening public pensions. He cited the recent meeting of provincial finance ministers to discuss the Canada Pension Plan, which ended with the provinces accusing the federal finance minister of blocking CPP reform.


"In a shameful betrayal of their own promises, this government turned its back on any semblance of leadership," Mulcair said.


Notably, Mulcair indicated that his party will call for a youth employment tax credit, as well restore the retirement age to 65. In the 2012 budget, the Conservative government had delayed the age at which workers could access Old Age Security benefits to 67.






Tom Mulcair vows to restore Old Age Security eligibility to 65 - Politics - CBC News
In typical NDP style Mulcair will promise the sun the moon and the stars because he knows he will never have to implement any of said promises. Possibly why since 1930 something the NDP has always been an afterthought in Canadian politics while reform Conservative movement obtained Minority Government status in a matter of decades.
 

darkbeaver

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Canadian politics is locked into a pro zionists mind set as can be readily seen by our traitorous PMs visit to the criminal state of Israel. Canada is not a free country, Canada is an appendage of the Zionist Empire the special interest group with hobnail boots bloody hands and no morals or ethics whatever.
 

Nuggler

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To get on a trapeze?


The dirt poor need to stop buying beer, weed and data.

Perhaps they need a lift up so they can buy beer, weed and data..........or whatever. - and become more than dirt poor - dust poor, say.

Stinky hippys.


"Hippies"

Canadians east of Thunder Bay want to be like France. Canadians west of Thunder Bay want to be like Canada.


You are deluded and fukking nuts.
 

JLM

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While I basically agree with "survival of the fittest", I think we do have to be a little selective about it. Sometimes sh*t happens for no other reason than bad luck and I don't agree with letting people fall through the cracks because of a single episode of bad luck. Many times I think we'd be better off if the "safety net" was in the form of a loan rather than a gift, hence ensuring there will always be money available for those in need.

You say that like it's a bad thing.


Yeah, it should be kept in mind that there are a lot of us in that category!:)
 

taxslave

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I don't know about a loan as such but certainly there has to be strings attached. I have to do D&A tests to go to work so it is only right that those collecting tax money have to do the same.
 

JLM

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I don't know about a loan as such but certainly there has to be strings attached. I have to do D&A tests to go to work so it is only right that those collecting tax money have to do the same.


It's a two edged sword. What do you think a druggie is going to do when he fails the test and gets cut off?
 

Walter

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The number one cause of childhood poverty is kids being born out of wedlock. Stupid single moms and their baby daddies. The best chance of being poor is having a child before you can afford it and all the gubmint childcare in the world won't help.
 

Twila

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The number one cause of childhood poverty is kids being born out of wedlock. Stupid single moms and their baby daddies. The best chance of being poor is having a child before you can afford it and all the gubmint childcare in the world won't help.

That would either help to cut down on over population since most people are unable to save up enough to raise a child to 18yrs of age before they are unable to actually have children or it will increase the risk of children with mental disabilities cause only those 40+ will have saved enough to have children.

Could be a very interesting world if that were to happen.

I don't know about a loan as such but certainly there has to be strings attached. I have to do D&A tests to go to work so it is only right that those collecting tax money have to do the same.

do you ever worry about a false positive? Is there recourse should a cold medicine or prescription come up as a positive for illegal drugs or alcohol? I ask purely out of curiousity. It's something we always hear about, false positives.
 

lone wolf

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I don't know about a loan as such but certainly there has to be strings attached. I have to do D&A tests to go to work so it is only right that those collecting tax money have to do the same.

I'd like to see periodic random checks just to be sure the stuff taxes are paying for is actually in the blood in expected amounts and not being sold on the streets or traded for a drug of choice
 

JLM

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The number one cause of childhood poverty is kids being born out of wedlock. Stupid single moms and their baby daddies. The best chance of being poor is having a child before you can afford it and all the gubmint childcare in the world won't help.


Does stupidity and being single go hand in hand?
 

Twila

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I'd like to see periodic random checks just to be sure the stuff taxes are paying for is actually in the blood in expected amounts and not being sold on the streets or traded for a drug of choice

Could you imagine the cost of actually micro managing people?

the drug trade would flourish if those on assistance had to account for every single choice they made with regards to the money they were given. There would be so many children in foster care and the foster homes would also have to be micro managed and it would get impossible to manage, financially and manpower wise.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Could you imagine the cost of actually micro managing people?

the drug trade would flourish if those on assistance had to account for every single choice they made with regards to the money they were given. There would be so many children in foster care and the foster homes would also have to be micro managed and it would get impossible to manage, financially and manpower wise.

I think a better way is simular to what is done in several places in the States. The State pays the landlord directly. Any additional rent would come from tenant (welfare user). Food is by food stamps. The amount of cash doled out is next to 0. No abuses or people taking their cheque and spending it on crack or weed.