World War II: The Holocaust

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Par for the course on the internet to anyone that has been around

There are always some who almost demand that you bloody well acknowledge and answer their thoughtful, witty retorts. You must, you have too!

Twitching impatiently, constantly refreshing their screens. They feel moved to follow each and every new entry from their antagonist in obsessed hopes that it may have happened. Alas, when it hasn't, you become Moby Poster Dick, their white troll. ;-)


They really need a break from their battle stations. :lol:

I know what you mean. A sane person would have just said, "Screw it." But some people become shrill and unbalanced. "Answer the question!" They start quoting post numbers. "Your a stalker! Look at the facts I am presenting!" And when you point out that they are an idiot and even give them an exit strategy they just won't give up."Stop trolling me!" :lol:
 

Cliffy

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Hmmm. No mention of the Gypsies, gays, mentally ill, and the multitude of other ethnic groups who were in those camps. A little one sided, doncha think?

How come the Nazi holocaust gets so much press when the American holocaust gets almost none? As many as 90 million died here but nobody talks about that.
 

Colpy

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Hmmm. No mention of the Gypsies, gays, mentally ill, and the multitude of other ethnic groups who were in those camps. A little one sided, doncha think?

How come the Nazi holocaust gets so much press when the American holocaust gets almost none? As many as 90 million died here but nobody talks about that.

Nope

6 million Jews.

4 million Roma, Slavs, the aged, the infirm, the mentally ill, Jehovah's Witnesses, socialists, Communists, resistors, etc etc etc.

The Nazis decided where the focus was, our remembrance simply reflects that.
 

Dexter Sinister

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How come the Nazi holocaust gets so much press when the American holocaust gets almost none? As many as 90 million died here but nobody talks about that.
The Nazi holocaust gets so much press because it's well documented and uglier, the American holocaust (I presume you mean the aboriginals of the Americas?) not so much. Nobody knows what the number of dead is, for instance, nobody knows what the population of the Americas was before European contact--I've seen estimates of 8 million to 100 million--and most of the mortality was due to disease, not a planned, industrialized process of rounding people up, transporting them to extermination camps, robbing them, gassing them, and cremating them.
 

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The Nazi holocaust gets so much press because it's well documented and uglier, the American holocaust (I presume you mean the aboriginals of the Americas?) not so much. Nobody knows what the number of dead is, for instance, nobody knows what the population of the Americas was before European contact--I've seen estimates of 8 million to 100 million--and most of the mortality was due to disease, not a planned, industrialized process of rounding people up, transporting them to extermination camps, robbing them, gassing them, and cremating them.

I'd hazard a guess that most American Indians were killed by their immune systems. T.B. alone claimed thousands!
 

Cliffy

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The Nazi holocaust gets so much press because it's well documented and uglier, the American holocaust (I presume you mean the aboriginals of the Americas?) not so much. Nobody knows what the number of dead is, for instance, nobody knows what the population of the Americas was before European contact--I've seen estimates of 8 million to 100 million--and most of the mortality was due to disease, not a planned, industrialized process of rounding people up, transporting them to extermination camps, robbing them, gassing them, and cremating them.
The book 1491 estimates 90 - 110 million based on recent archaeological findings. Yes many if not most of the 90% were killed by disease, but many were killed by armies and settlers. The Spanish were and Portuguese were particularly brutal and the Dutch introduced scalping. Then there were the consentration camps masquerading as reservations where many starved. And the residential schools where, in Canada alone, 50 thousand children disappeared.

I'm not denying the holocaust of WWII happened but it almost seems to me that it as become a smokescreen to obscure what happened in the Americas.
 

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I'm not denying the holocaust of WWII happened but it almost seems to me that it as become a smokescreen to obscure what happened in the Americas.


Really? Now it's a smokescreen to hide something else? You can't be serious.
 

petros

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Interesting......
Very.

Did they ever find out who stole the kishke?

Hmmm. No mention of the Gypsies, gays, mentally ill, and the multitude of other ethnic groups who were in those camps. A little one sided, doncha think?


Geoffrey Megargee and Martin Dean, the lead editors of the project, have compiled the thousands of sites in a multivolume encyclopedia that is being published by the Holocaust Museum. Each volume catalogs thousands of sites, providing a comprehensive history of the "living and working conditions, activities of the Jewish councils, Jewish responses to persecution, demographic changes, and details of the liquidation of the ghettos."
The Holocaust Museum team also created maps of the sites, which were scattered across Europe, and which imprisoned or killed between 15 and 20 million people.

Their study includes everybody.

The researchers' work may also help Holocaust survivors attempting to sue
insurance companies or recover stolen property.

"How many claims have been rejected because the victims were in a camp that
we didn't even know about?" said Sam Dubbin, a lawyer who represents
survivors.
Well there ya go. I'm a survivor too. I've survived all sorts of bullsh!t. It's a miracle I exist.

I'm going to sue the Russians, Pollocks, Bohunks, Krauts, Romans, Mongols, Kazakhs, Turks, Canada, Israel, Scythians the Vikings and Botswana.
 
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Colpy

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From another site:

My name is XXXXXXXXX. I am a survivor of the Holocaust, the Warsaw Ghetto and its uprising, Majdanek, Budzyn, Mielec, Wieliczka, Plaszow, Flossenburg Concentration Camps and the "Death March to Dachau". Please, no questions about Israel/Gaza. I do not feel that I am knowledgeable enough about the situation. My grandson will be typing for me so that we can answer as many as possible in the time that I have!

The last 11 "questions".

[–]JonnyStark 0 points 8 minutes ago
Is it a coincidence you're milking this holocaust sympathy, whilst Israel is committing genocide in Palestine?
Edit: I bet I get shadowbanned for this.




[–]LeTrollMazter9001 1 point 15 minutes ago
How jew feeling? I did nazi see you coming!






[–]freshly_cooked_nizza -2 points 16 minutes ago*
So you want to discuss things that happened ages ago but won't inform yourself enough to discuss the atrocities being committed right now by Israel? Yet more proof that the Holocaust industry is the biggest farce in mankind's history. Go **** yourself hard. Your sob story is just bad fiction.






[–]746431 1 point 18 minutes ago
Great timing, here you are to boost Israel's image while IDF are busy slaughtering innocent civilians.
Holocaust, holocaust, holocaust?






[–]Yukimor 0 points 20 minutes ago
What's your opinion on Eli Weisel? I've read his books, and have mixed feelings-- on one hand, it's important that we know what happened so that this never happens again. On the other hand, some people feel he is monetizing the suffering he went through. Two perspectives I've been exposed to, and I'd appreciate a potential third.






[–]Darkstrain -4 points 25 minutes ago
So how long are you Jews going to keep pretending that the holocaust happened? When we all know it was just a ploy to get America to fight in the War.






[–]j3434 0 points 30 minutes ago
I am very interested in WWII and the holocaust. I have heard this question asked before but the answers always seem lacking. That is this: Once the people realized what was happening in the ghettos - why was there not a mass escape and revolt ? It seems in the movies like "The Pianist" they just took all the aggression on the chin - as opposed to charging the proverbial and actual machine-gun nests. I know there were Jewish revolts here and there - but if they knew they were going to die - why not risk it all in revolt or escape ?
Perhaps there was always hope that it would end soon ? I can see if one had family to protect as well. I would not risk anything with them involved. Perhaps you can shed some light on the psychological impact of being in such an incomprehensibly horrific situation faces with such barbaric evil manifestations of the human condition.






[–]Tautologicus -1 points 31 minutes ago
Did Israel pay you to trot out your sob story while they are busy committing their latest round of war crimes? Or is supporting the racist apartheid state of the "Chosen People" its own reward?






[–]random3232 4 points 31 minutes ago
Seems like you might be done but what do you think of the current Israeli-palestinian conflict that has taken the lives of 850 innocent civilians?






[–]hamsandwich12 0 points 33 minutes ago
Is there a personality trait that makes some people survive where others perish? Is it faith, luck, family, resiliency, stubbornness, or something extra? Could you look at a person and know if they had the survivor trait or not? Do you wonder why you survived where others didn't? Do you feel pressure to be something more than you are to make up for all those who didn't make it? Have you ever asked God why he allowed this awful thing to happen and what it is that you're supposed to learn from this? If you knew that someone was contemplating suicide, what would you say to them?






[–]Goodman21043 0 points 37 minutes ago
How many Germans did you murder after the war for revenge?



WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?????
 

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My name is XXXXXXXXX. I am a survivor of the Holocaust, the Warsaw Ghetto and its uprising, Majdanek, Budzyn, Mielec, Wieliczka, Plaszow, Flossenburg Concentration Camps and the "Death March to Dachau".
So how many years was he in these extermination camps and not get, you know, exterminated?
Is he one of the people who hid in the sewage. I have news for you, in a pit like that H2S and methane occupy the air closest to the sewage and that by itself will kill you in the first few hours of 'hiding there'.

When 100 people agree on something and you don't then you better accept that it is 'your facts' that are in error, no matter how much you wish it wasn't so.
 

Colpy

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yusef found the kishka you can call off the search.

so how many years was he in these extermination camps and not get, you know, exterminated?
Is he one of the people who hid in the sewage. I have news for you, in a pit like that h2s and methane occupy the air closest to the sewage and that by itself will kill you in the first few hours of 'hiding there'.

When 100 people agree on something and you don't then you better accept that it is 'your facts' that are in error, no matter how much you wish it wasn't so.

what the **** is wrong with you people?????
 

petros

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what the **** is wrong with you people?????

Absolutely nothing. We aren't wannbe Heebs who feel obligated to shove our heads up our asses and give savages a pass because they can't play sports to vent anger like everybody else.