Woman is the root cause of all of man’s and God’s woes.

barra

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As told in some old story book written by old men many hundreds after the supposed act happened.
So succinct. I admire that quality.

t is all the more difficult perhaps, because the effort is usually made to read it in the single form in which it is found in the Christian Bible, where it is condensed from earlier Babylonian epics, such as the Gilgamesh story, the Berosan Akkadian version, and the Bundahish and Zend-Avesta accounts. It needs a comparative study of the Bible narrative along side of these other sources to gain inklings of meaning not indicated in the abbreviated story in Genesis.

Genesis is not at all the creation of the world and man!
Briefly, it is a suggestive delineation of creative process in general. It is a graph or dramatic hieroglyph of life and growth as it ever takes place.

And here at once we are faced with a most incompetent translation. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

"Out of (their) primordial Being the Elohim engendered spirit and matter." To paraphrase it a little more elaborately, it might be put: "From out the depths of Infinite Being the Elohim formed the upper and the lower ranges of life." The upper and lower worlds, or heaven and earth, in ancient typology definitely connoted spirit and matter, for the upper are spiritual and the lower are material. The straight idea is: From the head source of Being the creative powers created life in its two aspects of spirit and matter.
Yes, so much has to be compared, researched and some common sense ~ along with a sense of awe for the whole magnanimity of the omnipotence of the creation of Universe, heavens, and all. (of course so many have worked on this and still in progress, process) Inexhaustible possibilities, but lovely to find some more enlightenment.

I would like to know more about your readings. Very interesting.

If God is a hermaphrodite then so, too, would Adam have been, because he - even his GENDER - was an EXACT image of God.


This is why Woman is not as exact image of God.
And that seems to be the underlying core of your fear. You fear you have female qualities (which all do by the way). Just as women will have some male traits. It is normal, for all are in the image of God or a creator.

Now, in acceptance of our image and our meaning of life and just getting on with it without conflict of who births who and respect for both male and female, is what Jesus or other greats have advocated.
 

petros

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So what? Do all men have to love women? There is a view today that all men have to love all women, even the billions of women they don't know, and if they don't they "hate women" (as though hating women is bad). I don't know where this (very recent) view comes from, but it's a disturbing one. So what if he preferred males to females? He was probably just gay.

You sound like a leftie Muzzie
 

karrie

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Yeah. The only difference being I get criticised for "misogyny", yet misandry by those very same women on here who are only too quicky to attack "misogyny" whenever they see it goes unpunished. Except when I see it, of course.



If she'd started an OP on it, I'd see your point. Alas, she was just taking a jab at a misogynist thread, which makes you look every bit the **** for getting bent out of shape for her comment.
 

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How does lightening up and enjoying life excuse misandry? While you are at it you can work on mysogyny as well.

Found this, explains the issues he has
Fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down.
 

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If she'd started an OP on it, I'd see your point. Alas, she was just taking a jab at a misogynist thread, which makes you look every bit the **** for getting bent out of shape for her comment.

He wasn't bent out of shape over her comment before he'd made his own rather stupid comment and got called out on it. From that point on it was all about pointing the finger somewhere else.
 

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He wasn't bent out of shape over her comment before he'd made his own rather stupid comment and got called out on it. From that point on it was all about pointing the finger somewhere else.

Which stupid comment are you referring to- he made so many.
 

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Men might today come from women, but so do other women. And you make it sound as though woman is some miraculous creature and that only she alone can produce another human. Those with a bit of commonsense know that this is a load of nonsense, as a woman has not a hope in hell of producing another human being without a man's sperm. It takes two to produce a child, both female AND male. The woman merely nutures it in her womb. But it takes BOTH male and female to produce another human being.

And remember that, as a whole, originally, Woman comes from Man.

Man, though, comes from God. Woman cannot have been created in God's image as the first human, Adam - a MALE - was created in God's image, including him being a male (Adam was EXACTLY in God's image, so God is male. And we also know God is male, because Jesus was). The fact that Adam was a male shows that God Himself sees himself as male. A woman being female means she cannot have been created in God's image, as she does not have God's maleness. She is not the exact image of God.

ROFLMFAO. You are getting stupider by the post. How do you know woman was not created in god's image? Or more to the point how do you know god is not female except for the rantings of some depraved old men a couple of thousand years ago.

That would be this one.

When you think about it men are the ones that are deformed and less intelligent. Having your favorite parts exposed to the elements and accidental removal or injury is not a very bright idea.
 

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Um, God needed Mary to create Jesus.

He only needed Mary to create Jesus only because Original Sin is inherited from the mother, not the father. God wanted Jesus to be 100% human as well as 100% God. By having Jesus born of a woman rather than creating Him as He created Adam, Jesus therefore inherited our sinful natures (which are passed down through the mother), thus he was also 100% man, with all of the temptations of the flesh that any other man has.

Hence God and a woman work just fine without a male body to make another male body.

God works just fine without a female body to make another male body. Did you ever study Adam and Eve at school?

Oh, my, more evidence that women are the image of God and create all earthly humans

I must have said this a hundred times now - man, not woman, is the image of God. Woman cannot be the image of God because God speaks of Himself as a male. He created Adam in his likeness. What gender was Adam? When God appeared on Earth as a human, he appeared as a male - Jesus Christ. That's because God sees Himself as male. A woman is not in the image of God because she has femaleness - something which God has chosen not to have and which didn't exist originally.
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Do you not see that you can't win when it comes to WHO gave you life and what image

God gave all humans life.

God is both male and female or a combination.

No He isn't. God speaks of Himself as being male. When He appeared to us He appeared to us as a male. He is not both male and female.

Otherwise only men would have been created and a male womb and --- or maybe just a man, and a whole bunch more men being grown out of their ribs, like some sci fi movie.

Woman was not a direct creation of God. Woman is an aside taken from Man - Adam's rib - and therefore is in the image of Man.

Woman is in the image of Man and Man is in the image of God.

Women have BIRTHED all humans.

I can think of around five million humans that women haven't birthed - Adam, Eve and those born by IVF, starting with Louise Brown, born at Oldham General Hospital near Manchester on 25th July (same date as me) 1978 (those clever Brits again).

You have forgotten that, in this day and age, a woman's womb is not necessarily needed to make a baby. There are a couple or so million males alive today who did NOT come out of a woman's womb.
 
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I believe the Flying Spaghetti Monster created spaghetti in its own image. A little voice inside my head told me so.

I agree! Spaghetti could not have evolved from Chinese noodles as some claim, Intelligent design must be taught along side the claims of soul-food evolutionists.
 

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The French Patriot seems to ignore the law of polarity. The miracle of life requires the good and the bad, they are not separate things, and life as a meat bag is not the end product of genesis, it is the beginning. The good requires the bad, this is how we grow. A heap of dung is home for delicate flowers.



I agree but hardly see it as a fixed law. More of a suggestion. There is no evil in the sex you and I may have so why would you apply polarity to it?


When God or his Sons of God bring us the miracle of life, they also bring the genocide of mankind if we want to follow your dualistic thinking.


And Christians applaud that genocide which all with intelligence here will agree is rather sick.


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DL
 

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One doesn't need to be religious to understand a woman's worth. The fact that all human beings came from a woman after nine months in her womb is something no man can do alone with his sperm and biceps. Just because a woman doesn't exactly think and look like a man does with all virility, doesn't mean she is anything less of a human being. She is neither inferior nor a disgrace. Man and woman are interdependent but with different functions to keep this world going.
Women commit mistakes just like men. Adam proved that he's not a perfect being when he failed to stand firm and act accordingly the moment he was convinced of taking a bite of the apple just as how Eve has been lured by the snake.