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PoliticalNick

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Hey Nick- One thing you have to give Gerry credit for is he don't give a sh*t about being popular and in this day and age that is an admirable trait. Any sleazy politician knows how to be popular! -:)

I will admit he sticks to his beliefs no matter who agrees or disagrees or how completely ludicrous they may be. That is a good thing IMO.
 

Blackleaf

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then the US and Canadian Navy.

The Royal Navy was bigger and more powerful than both of them.

Without the US and Canada there would have been no D-Day. We saved youuuuuu!

Bull****. Without British actions and victories in Europe before America even entered the war, America wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground in Europe to begin with, and neither would the Canadians.

The British cleared the way in Europe for the Yanks and Canucks to step foot on the Continent in the first place. America and Canada wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground on Continental Europe had Britain not cleared the way for you to do so in the first place.


Britain's victory in the Battle of Britain was important for humanity.

Yeah. I've already explained that. Had Britain lost the Battle of Britain whilst US companies were making business deals with the Nazis, the Normandy Landings could never have happened and WWII would have been lost.


It's you who needs to hit the books. History teaching appears to be pretty abysmal in your part of the world.

Nazi Germany started WWII by invading much of Europe. Hitler got the war he was desperate to have when he invaded Poland.
 

Blackleaf

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Yet, the RN couldn't keep the lanes and ports open long enough to be resupplied with food and arms.

So much for bigger and more powerful.. You might want to rethink that statement

Codswallop. Again, I'm confronted by someone who hasn't studied the facts, only studying romanticised Canadian and American history.

Not once did the U-boats completely cut off supply lines to Britain. And the reason for that was the Royal Navy's heroic actions during the Battle of the Atlantic, of which the US played no part.

The tide began to turn in 1943. By that time code breakers were able to read many German naval signals by cracking the Enigma machines. The nationalities of those Enigma code breakers? British.

There were also effective new weapons against U-Boats such as depth charges - invented by the British.

You really do need to stop listening to American and Canadian historians. They are teaching you romanticised rubbish over there.
 

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The Royal Navy was bigger and more powerful than both of them.



Bull****. Without British actions and victories in Europe before America even entered the war, America wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground in Europe to begin with, and neither would the Canadians.

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Blackleaf........................Instead of perpetuating unadulterated garbage read the history and stop coming across as an imbecile.

Second World War (WWII) - The Canadian Encyclopedia
 

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Codswallop. Again, I'm confronted by someone who hasn't studied the facts, only studying romanticised Canadian and American history.

Not once did the U-boats completely cut off supply lines to Britain. And the reason for that was the Royal Navy's heroic actions during the Battle of the Atlantic, of which the US played no part.

The tide began to turn in 1943. By that time code breakers were able to read many German naval signals by cracking the Enigma machines. The nationalities of those Enigma code breakers? British.

There were also effective new weapons against U-Boats such as depth charges - invented by the British.

You really do need to stop listening to American and Canadian historians. They are teaching you romanticised rubbish over there.

Just so I'm clear then: You are saying that Britain had absolutely no problems, single-handedly keeping the shipping/supply lines clear and open and safe from the German Navy and U-boats around your wee island?

btw - this is a yes or no question, I won't be needing any flag waving on the answer.

So... Yes or no?
 

Blackleaf

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Blackleaf........................Instead of perpetuating unadulterated garbage read the history and stop coming across as an imbecile.

Second World War (WWII) - The Canadian Encyclopedia


No British victory in the Battle of Britain (which many Americans, including the Nazi-supporting Joseph Kennedy, the American ambassador to Britain, thought Britain had no chance of winning) would have meant the Americans and Canadians would not have been able to use Britain as a springboard with which to launch D-Day and win the war.

That British victory prevented Germany from winning the war.

Just so I'm clear then: You are saying that Britain had absolutely no problems, single-handedly keeping the shipping/supply lines clear and open and safe from the German Navy and U-boats around your wee island?

btw - this is a yes or no question, I won't be needing any flag waving on the answer.

So... Yes or no?


What on Earth do you think the Battle of the Atlantic was all about? It was the Royal Navy preventing Germany blockading Britian.
 

Blackleaf

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48 squadrons of Canadians are what tipped the scales in favour of the turd in the Atlantic punchbowl.

Again, you overestimate your country's value to the war.

For a start, there were nowhere near 48 Canadian squadrons during the Battle of Britain. Was that wildly exaggerated figure something which you just plucked from thin air?

There were 71 RAF squadrons in total which took part in the battle. As well as Brits, there were more Poles and more New Zealanders than Canadians fighting in the battle.

The RAF recognises just 83 Canadians who fought in the Battle of Britain.

The deadliest RAF squadron during the Battle of Britain was 303 Squadron, which consisted of Poles.
 

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What has any of this WW!! BS have to do with Queebec, except the the Pepsi's, for the most part, were smart enough no to get involved in Britain's pissing contest with Germany.
 

Blackleaf

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What has any of this WW!! BS have to do with Queebec, except the the Pepsi's, for the most part, were smart enough no to get involved in Britain's pissing contest with Germany.

That's because, unlike the British, you Canadians were prepared to stand by and allow the Nazis to overrun Europe and set up their 1,000 year Third Reich, devoid of Jews, Communists, Slavs, gypsies, gays and other groups the Nazis hated.

The British, unlike the Americans and Canadians, wanted to put an end to it.

Thank you America for pumping your resources into the Red Army. Without the iron there wouldn't have been the T31s to blast the sh*t out of the Krauts.

It wasn't only the Yanks who sent military supplies to the Red Army. The British did, too.

In fact, the British supplied the Soviets with 5,000 tanks, 7,000 aircraft and 15 million pairs of boots.

It was nice of you to acknowledge that fact.
 

Cliffy

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That's because, unlike the British, you Canadians were prepared to stand by and allow the Nazis to overrun Europe and set up their 1,000 year Third Reich, devoid of Jews, Communists, Slavs, gypsies, gays and other groups the Nazis hated.

The British, unlike the Americans and Canadians, wanted to put an end to it.
Self righteousness is not an enviable trait. The British were just as responsible for WW11 as Germany was.
 

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That's because, unlike the British, you Canadians were prepared to stand by and allow the Nazis to overrun Europe and set up their 1,000 year Third Reich, devoid of Jews, Communists, Slavs, gypsies, gays and other groups the Nazis hated.

The British, unlike the Americans and Canadians, wanted to put an end to it.


We would have preferred to stay out of the fight you picked, but Churchill kept begging and begging and begging.... It really was a bother after so long and quite frankly, we Canadians were highly embarrassed on your behalf
 

Blackleaf

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Self righteousness is not an enviable trait. The British were just as responsible for WW11 as Germany was.

When I go to bars in Continental Europe I get bought free beers as a thank you for my country liberating their country during the war.

Norway gives Britain a Christmas Tree every year in December, which is displayed in Trafalgar Square as a thank you for Britain liberating Norway during the war.

Germans, on the other hand, are still met with suspicion throughout Europe.

These people rightly see Germany as starting WWII and see Britain as their saviour.
 

Nuggler

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Codswallop. Again, I'm confronted by someone who hasn't studied the facts, only studying romanticised Canadian and American history.

Not once did the U-boats completely cut off supply lines to Britain. And the reason for that was the Royal Navy's heroic actions during the Battle of the Atlantic, of which the US played no part.

The tide began to turn in 1943. By that time code breakers were able to read many German naval signals by cracking the Enigma machines. The nationalities of those Enigma code breakers? British.

There were also effective new weapons against U-Boats such as depth charges - invented by the British.

You really do need to stop listening to American and Canadian historians. They are teaching you romanticised rubbish over there.


The Poles had enigma broken. Brits helped towards the end, but t'was the Poles that did the heavy lifting.
 

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The Royal Navy was bigger and more powerful than both of them.

Once again you're lack of knowledge is making you look like an even bigger fool.

The US Navy had the largest navy. Not only the largest but if you combined all the world's navies they still were smaller than the US Navy.

Do you ever plan to back up you foolishness? Of course not... the facts will not support you.



Bull****. Without British actions and victories in Europe before America even entered the war, America wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground in Europe to begin with, and neither would the Canadians.

The British cleared the way in Europe for the Yanks and Canucks to step foot on the Continent in the first place. America and Canada wouldn't have been able to put boots on the ground on Continental Europe had Britain not cleared the way for you to do so in the first place.

What victories? The Brits were driven into the sea. The first victories in Europe came about with the US and Canada in Sicily and Italy.


Yeah. I've already explained that. Had Britain lost the Battle of Britain whilst US companies were making business deals with the Nazis, the Normandy Landings could never have happened and WWII would have been lost.

We fed you during the Battle of Britain. Canadians, Poles, and Americans propped up your tiny AF.



It's you who needs to hit the books. History teaching appears to be pretty abysmal in your part of the world.

Nazi Germany started WWII by invading much of Europe. Hitler got the war he was desperate to have when he invaded Poland.

Germany invaded Poland... not Britain and France. They invaded a number of countries before that. Britain and France declared war on Germany. France fell and the Brits were thrown of the continent... rather easily.

The Brits started a war that they could not win without the help of the Canadians, Americans, and other Commonwealth nations. And of course the Soviets. If Hitler was such a darn fool by taking them on you would have been finished.
 

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When I go to bars in Continental Europe I get bought free beers as a thank you for my country liberating their country during the war.

Norway gives Britain a Christmas Tree every year in December, which is displayed in Trafalgar Square as a thank you for Britain liberating Norway during the war.

Germans, on the other hand, are still met with suspicion throughout Europe.

These people rightly see Germany as starting WWII and see Britain as their saviour.
There are other threads for WW11 BS. Take your chest thumping over to them. This thread is about the Pepsi separatists. Take your pomp and poop over there.