Re: British Parliament votes against British military involvement in Syria
Not much about fighting eh?
(Told you it was going to hurt)
Not much about fighting eh?
(Told you it was going to hurt)
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Re: British Parliament votes against British military involvement in Syria
"Canada will offer all assistance short of actual aid": JFK.
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Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
Understood.
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Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
The British demanded the creation of an Aboriginal Republic in Michigan and Northwest Territories as they existed then.
They were rebuffed, and that remained the only issue that stood in the way of ending the war.. which was then removed as a condition. The Americans facing a widespread political revolt at home and a growing anti-war movement.. capitulated on everything else.. including a guarantee of Canadian sovereignty.
The Indians worst fears of American untrustworthiness were realized in the wholesale slaughter of Sioux and Cheyenne... in the Black Hills and Dakota territories as they got in the way of gold and land lust later in the Century.. and their starvation on 'Reserves'. Wrong side indeed. :roll:
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...-OsgUrKWAoq5iwL2-IHAAg&ved=0CDgQ9QEwBA&dur=20
Big Foot dead at the Massacre of Wounded Knee... 1891.
The British demanded the creation of an Aboriginal Republic in Michigan and Northwest Territories as they existed then.
They were rebuffed, and that remained the only issue that stood in the way of ending the war.. which was then removed as a condition. The Americans facing a widespread political revolt at home and a growing anti-war movement.. capitulated on everything else.. including a guarantee of Canadian sovereignty.
The Indians worst fears of American untrustworthiness were realized in the wholesale slaughter of Sioux and Cheyenne... in the Black Hills and Dakota territories as they got in the way of gold and land lust later in the Century.. and their starvation on 'Reserves'. Wrong side indeed. :roll:
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...-OsgUrKWAoq5iwL2-IHAAg&ved=0CDgQ9QEwBA&dur=20
Big Foot dead at the Massacre of Wounded Knee... 1891.
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Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
Wouldn't it have been awesome if the US capitulated?! That would be a big help to you wouldn't it. However, your attempts at revisionism having failed yet again.
Treaty of Ghent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Do go on. Your nationalism amuses me.
Wouldn't it have been awesome if the US capitulated?! That would be a big help to you wouldn't it. However, your attempts at revisionism having failed yet again.
Treaty of Ghent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Do go on. Your nationalism amuses me.
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
I just heard a clip of Obama speaking today (aug 30) and he's using the BS reasoning that the Bushies did such as - paraphrasing -"We have to contain the gasses so that the terrorists don't get them and use them against us"
What a load of crap.........
General Idris’ Close Watch on Assad’s CW
Posted on August 29, 2013 by emptywheel
In a piece summarizing the current state of intelligence, the AP reveals how uncertain US intelligence is about chain of control over Bashar al-Assad’s chemical weapons.
With that in mind, I want to return to the stunning report from NBC last night that casually quotes General Salim Idris, head of the Free Syrian Army, claiming he has “sources” in Assad’s inner circle.
Let’s take a step back.
Idris defected — at least publicly — from Assad’s army last July, around the same time as then CIA Director David Petraeus and then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton unsuccessfully lobbied to start arming the rebels, and the month before Obama laid out chemical weapon use as his “red line.”
Idris was elected — thanks to a lot of arm twisting by US and its allies — to command the Free Syrian Army in December, just weeks after a chemical weapons incident I’ve been obsessing on. Shortly after his election, Idris gave a number of interviews in which he emphasized two things: that his people had an eye on Assad’s CW, and that Assad would use them if he got cornered.
Since that time, Idris’ authority has been in question, largely because his value to the rebels lay in his purported ability to work with America’s allies to supply them. In March, he wrote up the complaints he had been making — that the US wasn’t giving rebels the arms they needed.
- See more at: General Idris’ Close Watch on Assad’s CW | emptywheel
I just heard a clip of Obama speaking today (aug 30) and he's using the BS reasoning that the Bushies did such as - paraphrasing -"We have to contain the gasses so that the terrorists don't get them and use them against us"
What a load of crap.........
General Idris’ Close Watch on Assad’s CW
Posted on August 29, 2013 by emptywheel
In a piece summarizing the current state of intelligence, the AP reveals how uncertain US intelligence is about chain of control over Bashar al-Assad’s chemical weapons.
Intelligence officials say they could not pinpoint the exact locations of Assad’s supplies of chemical weapons, and Assad could have moved them in recent days as U.S. rhetoric builds. That lack of certainty means a possible series of U.S. cruise missile strikes aimed at crippling Assad’s military infrastructure could hit newly hidden supplies of chemical weapons, accidentally triggering a deadly chemical attack.
Over the past six months, with shifting front lines in the 2½-year-old civil war and sketchy satellite and human intelligence coming out of Syria, U.S. and allied spies have lost track of who controls some of the country’s chemical weapons supplies, according to one senior U.S. intelligence official and three other U.S. officials briefed on the intelligence shared by the White House as reason to strike Syria’s military complex. All spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the Syrian issue publicly.
U.S. satellites have captured images of Syrian troops moving trucks into weapons storage areas and removing materials, but U.S. analysts have not been able to track what was moved or, in some cases, where it was relocated. They are also not certain that when they saw what looked like Assad’s forces moving chemical supplies, those forces were able to remove everything before rebels took over an area where weapons had been stored. [my emphasis]
8 days after an attack they say they’re certain came from Assad loyalists, the intelligence community says it doesn’t know where all the CW are, doesn’t know who controls it all, and has questions about whether rebels seized (or took) CW after they were moved into place by Syrian forces.Over the past six months, with shifting front lines in the 2½-year-old civil war and sketchy satellite and human intelligence coming out of Syria, U.S. and allied spies have lost track of who controls some of the country’s chemical weapons supplies, according to one senior U.S. intelligence official and three other U.S. officials briefed on the intelligence shared by the White House as reason to strike Syria’s military complex. All spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the Syrian issue publicly.
U.S. satellites have captured images of Syrian troops moving trucks into weapons storage areas and removing materials, but U.S. analysts have not been able to track what was moved or, in some cases, where it was relocated. They are also not certain that when they saw what looked like Assad’s forces moving chemical supplies, those forces were able to remove everything before rebels took over an area where weapons had been stored. [my emphasis]
With that in mind, I want to return to the stunning report from NBC last night that casually quotes General Salim Idris, head of the Free Syrian Army, claiming he has “sources” in Assad’s inner circle.
Salim Idris, commander of the Free Syrian Army, said sources in Assad’s inner circle tell him that’s exactly what happened.
[snip]
Idris also indicated that pressure also has been growing on Assad to respond to a series of rebel advances.
Not only does the report show Idris claiming — effectively — that people in Assad’s inner circle are so disloyal that they not only continue to communicate with him, but provide key intelligence about how much pressure Assad is under.[snip]
Idris also indicated that pressure also has been growing on Assad to respond to a series of rebel advances.
Let’s take a step back.
Idris defected — at least publicly — from Assad’s army last July, around the same time as then CIA Director David Petraeus and then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton unsuccessfully lobbied to start arming the rebels, and the month before Obama laid out chemical weapon use as his “red line.”
Idris was elected — thanks to a lot of arm twisting by US and its allies — to command the Free Syrian Army in December, just weeks after a chemical weapons incident I’ve been obsessing on. Shortly after his election, Idris gave a number of interviews in which he emphasized two things: that his people had an eye on Assad’s CW, and that Assad would use them if he got cornered.
The new Syrian rebel commander has told The Associated Press that his fighters are monitoring the regime’s chemical weapons sites, but don’t have the means to seize and secure them.
Gen. Salim Idris, who defected from the Syrian army in July, says he is “very afraid” a cornered regime will use chemical weapons in Syria’s civil war. Syria is said to have one of the world’s largest chemical arsenals.
Effectively, Idris was repeating the line intelligence analysts had given just weeks earlier (or they had been repeating what he told them), even while suggesting his men were the ones watching over the CW.Gen. Salim Idris, who defected from the Syrian army in July, says he is “very afraid” a cornered regime will use chemical weapons in Syria’s civil war. Syria is said to have one of the world’s largest chemical arsenals.
Since that time, Idris’ authority has been in question, largely because his value to the rebels lay in his purported ability to work with America’s allies to supply them. In March, he wrote up the complaints he had been making — that the US wasn’t giving rebels the arms they needed.
- See more at: General Idris’ Close Watch on Assad’s CW | emptywheel
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
I can't wait till the US Anti-War movement hears about this!
I can't wait till the US Anti-War movement hears about this!
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
O.K. so let's attack the military bases.. Let's get it over with already.. come on all you blood thirsty dumb asses.
Of course, US bombs will be killing all those Human Shields that have been moved to those potential targets, prisoners, men, women and children who are part of the rebel force trying to topple Assad.
So which is worse, the gas attack or the USA killing another 3000 innocent civilians to prove a point..
Syria 'human shields': President Assad moving prisoners to military targets ahead of possible air strikes - Mirror Online
BBC News - Syrian children used as human shields, says UN report
O.K. so let's attack the military bases.. Let's get it over with already.. come on all you blood thirsty dumb asses.
Of course, US bombs will be killing all those Human Shields that have been moved to those potential targets, prisoners, men, women and children who are part of the rebel force trying to topple Assad.
So which is worse, the gas attack or the USA killing another 3000 innocent civilians to prove a point..
Syria 'human shields': President Assad moving prisoners to military targets ahead of possible air strikes - Mirror Online
BBC News - Syrian children used as human shields, says UN report
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
Big surprise.
Oh, look, another Canadian cursing the U.S. without a single harsh word for Assad.
Big surprise.
Re: "The U.S. Should Act"
While you're waiting please read what this whole sh*t show is really all about.
Syria - Analysis - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
While you're waiting please read what this whole sh*t show is really all about.
Syria - Analysis - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
No not at all.. if the target as Assad, then send a Seal Team in there and take the bastard out.. but don't send in Cruise Missiles that will kill innocent citizens in the process..
The problem is not Assad, it's Bassel al-Assad (brother), he is the military mastermind behind the attacks.
This is escalating and the USA is going to start a **** storm in the Middle East, and as usual not follow through.
Will the USA defend Israel, when there is retaliation from Syria and maybe Iran..
100,000 killed by bullets and bombs in Syria, but 1,200 people killed in a gas attack.. that's the moral obscenity??
Russia navy bolsters fleet over Syria crisis - YouTube
Generally, I would support the USA in any attack, but I just don't think all the facts are in and this will lead to huge problems not yet considered.
No not at all.. if the target as Assad, then send a Seal Team in there and take the bastard out.. but don't send in Cruise Missiles that will kill innocent citizens in the process..
The problem is not Assad, it's Bassel al-Assad (brother), he is the military mastermind behind the attacks.
This is escalating and the USA is going to start a **** storm in the Middle East, and as usual not follow through.
Will the USA defend Israel, when there is retaliation from Syria and maybe Iran..
100,000 killed by bullets and bombs in Syria, but 1,200 people killed in a gas attack.. that's the moral obscenity??
Russia navy bolsters fleet over Syria crisis - YouTube
Generally, I would support the USA in any attack, but I just don't think all the facts are in and this will lead to huge problems not yet considered.
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
So, no problem with using poison gas on civilians? Just talk about how dumb the U.S. is? OK, go sit with the Canadian left. They have Kool-Aid and pot brownies.
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
John Kerry says 1,429 killed in chemical attack
"I'm not asking you to take my word for it. Read for yourself, everyone…the evidence from thousands of sources, evidence that is already publicly available," he said.
More - U.S. Intel Report on Syria Chemical Weapons released, Kerry said evidence irrefutable
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Blazing Cat Fur: John Kerry says 1,429 killed in chemical attack
John Kerry says 1,429 killed in chemical attack
"I'm not asking you to take my word for it. Read for yourself, everyone…the evidence from thousands of sources, evidence that is already publicly available," he said.
More - U.S. Intel Report on Syria Chemical Weapons released, Kerry said evidence irrefutable
video:
Blazing Cat Fur: John Kerry says 1,429 killed in chemical attack
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
No it's not right to gas civilians... and you calling me left.. yeah, sure I'm far left.. :roll:
So where was the USA with women and children are being killed with bullets and bombs, I'm not sure about you, but being killed with a bullet, bomb or poison gas, I'm not sure there is any good way to be killed or a preferred way.
BTW there are 5 US states that to still use Poisonous Gas to kill prisoners on Death Row.
No it's not right to gas civilians... and you calling me left.. yeah, sure I'm far left.. :roll:
So where was the USA with women and children are being killed with bullets and bombs, I'm not sure about you, but being killed with a bullet, bomb or poison gas, I'm not sure there is any good way to be killed or a preferred way.
BTW there are 5 US states that to still use Poisonous Gas to kill prisoners on Death Row.
Re: British Parliament votes against British military involvement in Syria
remember, Yankee Sir, the battle of Los Angeles in 1941... UFO's are hard to shoot down, of course..
battle of los angeles 1941 - Bing Images
remember, Yankee Sir, the battle of Los Angeles in 1941... UFO's are hard to shoot down, of course..
battle of los angeles 1941 - Bing Images
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
Just checking.
As far as the Canadian left, you're talking like them, so why not enjoy the pot brownies?
OK, so you continue to defend the use of poison gas.
Just checking.
As far as the Canadian left, you're talking like them, so why not enjoy the pot brownies?
Re: British Parliament votes against British military involvement in Syria
And that is relevant how?
And that is relevant how?
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
Really? Is that what I said?
However, I don't think there is a preferred way to die.. having your head blown off or being gassed..
Really? Is that what I said?
However, I don't think there is a preferred way to die.. having your head blown off or being gassed..
Re: Kerry Says Chemical Arms Attack in Syria Is ‘Undeniable’
"BTW there are 5 US states that to still use Poisonous Gas to kill prisoners on Death Row."
You're comparing it to the legal execution of people found guilty by a jury.
"BTW there are 5 US states that to still use Poisonous Gas to kill prisoners on Death Row."
You're comparing it to the legal execution of people found guilty by a jury.