The Syria Thread: Everything you wanted to know or say about it

Merge the Syria Threads

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Zipperfish

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'I hope this doesn’t become the moment where we turn our back on the
world’s problems.'

You've got your own problems, buddy. Why don't you try sorting those.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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In all liklihood by the rebels... the ONLY ones who were in ANY way likely to benefit from the use of gas. I think you'll see a spate of gas and phosphorous attacks on civilians and especially children now as they attempt to bully the West into direct intervention.. by killing their own citizens.
And still not a word of condemnation from Canada.

Wow, so the Canadian left approves of Assad using poison gas on his own people, and the Canadian right blames the rebels.

Damn, I know where Assad can live out his days in comfort and honour if the rebels oust him!
 

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The FIRST foreign country the U.S. attacked WAS Canada in 1777.. followed by the invasion of conquest of the War of 1812 and 1813. Americans are quite unaware that they lost both.. so its no surprise Eaglesmack is so dense on the issue.

Nah... you just bought into the well established Canadian myth that was made for Canadians by Canadians that you won the War of 1812.



Actually every time the they strip the paint off the White House to give it a new coat of whitewash.. they uncover the scorch marks left by the retaliatory burning of Washington in 1813.. when we had to spank them for invading our country.

Another myth made by Canadians for Canadians... Canadians burnt down the White House. British subjects from the Upper and Lower Canadian Territories were not even involved. Not a one.

The British Troops that attacked Washington came directly from Europe. They were subsequently beaten in the Battle of Baltimore and sent back to their ships in defeat.

However Americans did burn down the Parliament buildings in York.

Sorry... the facts are on my side.
 

Zipperfish

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And still not a word of condemnation from Canada.

Wow, so the Canadian left approves of Assad using poison gas on his own people, and the Canadian right blames the rebels.

Damn, I know where Assad can live out his days in comfort and honour if the rebels oust him!

Lots of condemnation from Canada. We are offering all assistance short of help.

Have fun. And remember the US motto: Ready, Fire, Aim.
 

Zipperfish

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Truer words were never spoken.


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Considering that we bowed out of Vietnam and Iraq and were fighting Hitler for two years before the Americans got around to it, you should really give us a call before a war and ask "Say, what are you guys doing for this one?" :lol:
 

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America would have to bomb it's self JLM

Yeah, I think all this rhetoric about how innocent the Arab countries are and what demons the Americans are is a little overdone and quite frankly I find it rather tiring. Anyone who thinks that way should go live over there for awhile! I had a cousin who lived in Bahrain for a few decades and the minute he retired he was back to England on the next plane.
 

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Nah... you just bought into the well established Canadian myth that was made for Canadians by Canadians that you won the War of 1812.





Another myth made by Canadians for Canadians... Canadians burnt down the White House. British subjects from the Upper and Lower Canadian Territories were not even involved. Not a one.

The British Troops that attacked Washington came directly from Europe. They were subsequently beaten in the Battle of Baltimore and sent back to their ships in defeat.

However Americans did burn down the Parliament buildings in York.

Sorry... the facts are on my side.

Another fact Americans are unaware of is that a large portion of the aboriginal warriors.. under Tecumseh of the Shawnee, the commando forces of the War of 1812 (along with those of Joe Norton of the Mohawks) were from the American territories.. in hopes of creating a sovereign aboriginal Republic in what is now Michigan. And in response to the sad legacy of broken Treaties and promises by the American government to the First Nations. They just felt the British were more trustworthy.

Many of the colonists of Canada were also of American origin... either United Empire Loyalists or settlers drawn by the availibility of land north of the border... and the more peaceful relationships with the aboriginal tribes. Much to the surprise of the Americans they did not engage in general uprising in support of the American cause. In fact many joined the Militia in opposing it.

The attack on Washington was a retaliatory strike by a British Naval force.. not a war of conquest or territory. The U.S. attack on Canada was a war specifically with the intentions of amalgamating Canada to the U.S. It failed miserably, and the borders were locked along the Great Lakes afterward by the Treaty of Ghent. So who do you think REALLY lost the war.
 
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EagleSmack

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Considering that we bowed out of Vietnam and Iraq and were fighting Hitler for two years before the Americans got around to it, you should really give us a call before a war and ask "Say, what are you guys doing for this one?" :lol:

YOU were fighting Hitler two years before we got around to it? Funny history forgot to mention that.

Check out the dates on this Canadian webpage... (be advised... this is going to hurt)


Canadian World War II Battles - Canada at War
 

petros

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Why is it important for the US to bomb Syria after the false flag gas attack? Is it about a better life for Syrians or getting Mobil's natural gas to market from Lebanon?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Another fact Americans are unaware of is that a large portion of the Aboriginal warriors.. under Tecumseh of the Shawnee, the commando forces of the War of 1812 were from the American territory.. in hopes of creating a sovereign aboriginal Republic in what is now Michigan.. in response to the sad legacy of broken treaties and promises by the American government. They just felt the British were more trustworthy.

The attack on Washington was a retaliatory strike by a British Naval force.. not a war of conquest or territory. Thy U.S. attack on Canada was a war specifically with the intentions of amalgamating Canada to the U.S. It failed miserably, and the borders were locked along the Great Lakes afterward by the Treaty of Ghent.
No, we were from Shawnee country. The fact that we didn't recognize it as "American territory" is pretty much why we were fighting.

But do keep up with this. Beats having to condemn Assad for using poison gas on his own people, which you will clearly do anything to avoid.
 

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Another fact Americans are unaware of is that a large portion of the Aboriginal warriors.. under Tecumseh of the Shawnee, the commando forces of the War of 1812 were from the American territory.. in hopes of creating a sovereign aboriginal Republic in what is now Michigan.. in response to the sad legacy of broken treaties and promises by the American government. They just felt the British were more trustworthy.

Which were abandoned by the British.

Looks like the chose the wrong side eh?

The attack on Washington was a retaliatory strike by a British Naval force..

Changing your tune huh? No British subjects from the Territories of Upper and Lower Canada were involved.

Thanks for playing!

not a war of conquest or territory. Thy U.S. attack on Canada was a war specifically with the intentions of amalgamating Canada to the U.S. It failed miserably, and the borders were locked along the Great Lakes afterward.

Sure it was. The Brits originally wanted to demand land during the treaty negotiations but were rebuffed.

Have a nice day!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Why is it important for the US to bomb Syria after the false flag gas attack? Is it about a better life for Syrians or getting Mobil's natural gas to market from Lebanon?
So, who really used poison gas on Syrian civilans?

Don't tell me, let me guess. Three letters, begins with "U," ends with "A," right?
 

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Which were abandoned by the British.

Looks like the chose the wrong side eh?



Changing your tune huh? No British subjects from the Territories of Upper and Lower Canada were involved.

Thanks for playing!



Sure it was. The Brits originally wanted to demand land during the treaty negotiations but were rebuffed.

Have a nice day!

I'm reminded of that line from A Fish Called Wanda.. when Archie Leach called Otto out on America's defeat in Viet Nam... "That was a TIE" screams Otto.. No Archie sais.. "they whipped yer @$$" :)

No, we were from Shawnee country. The fact that we didn't recognize it as "American territory" is pretty much why we were fighting.

But do keep up with this. Beats having to condemn Assad for using poison gas on his own people, which you will clearly do anything to avoid.

A Shawnee Republic would have been fine with me. I'm sure they would have done much better Job with Detroit (maybe they'd have called it Tecumseh) than the Americans have.
 
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Zipperfish

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YOU were fighting Hitler two years before we got around to it? Funny history forgot to mention that.

Check out the dates on this Canadian webpage... (be advised... this is going to hurt)


Canadian World War II Battles - Canada at War

Yup.. We declared war in 1939. According to wiki:

While the response to war was initially intended to be limited, resources were
mobilized quickly. The Convoy HX-1 departed Halifax
just six days after the nation declared war, escorted by HMCS St. Laurent and HMCS
Saguenay.[18]
The 1st
Canadian Infantry Division arrived in Britain on 1 January 1940.[19]
By 13 June 1940, the 1st Battalion of The
Hastings and Prince Edward Regiment was deployed to France in an attempt to
secure the southern flank of the British
Expeditionary Force in Belgium. By the time the battalion arrived, the
British and allies were cut off at Dunkirk,
Paris had fallen, and after penetrating 200 km inland, the battalion returned to
Brest and then to Britain.
 

EagleSmack

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I'm reminded of the that line from A Fish Called Wanda.. when Archie Leach called Otto out on America's defeat in Viet Nam... "That was a TIE" screams Otto.. No Archie sais.. "they whipped yer @$$" :)

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Funny movie and funny part.

Not as funny as what you're resorting to once confronted with facts.
 

Zipperfish

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The takeaway I'm getting from the threads on Assad using poison gas on his own people is that the Canadian and American left doesn't care.

I say this because all I'm hearing from them is "we hate the warmongering American fascists!"

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Perhaps you need to adjust your hearing. Becasue I don't think there's a single person here who doesn't care about a bunch of kids getting gassed. And when the opener in your argument is "You must support Assad gassing civilians" it's really not that surprising that you are failing to reach any kind of understanding.

Secondly, some of us have a memory of longer than four months. These very same argumetns were put before Canada during the run-up to Iraq. It turned out that the US and Brtiain were amking a lot of **** up, and it turned out that they managed to probably kill more Iraqis through sheer ineptitutde that Saddam managed by malevolence.

Third of all--and another lesson from Iraq--is that beating your chest and bleating that "We must act" is not a strategy. Punsihing Assad doesn't strike me as very useful at this point. It's like punshing the oil in the Deepwater Horizon spill. I'd be more interested in specific measures to protect the innocent.