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gerryh said:
Something I don't see mentioned in here concerning the percentages of over 55's. The main reason is that the boomers also didn't have enough kids to replace them in the work force. We have a severe shortage skilled trades and it is because there are are not enough kids to fill them. Therefore boomers are needed to work past "typical" retirement.
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The trades were suppressed by the western education system but we were all going to ride swiftly and surely on the innovative space age information highway and step off at station 55 into the pale blue sweater wearing investment portfolios we could become. Retirement is out of the question, CO2 never sleeps.
 
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captain morgan said:
Apparently, Spade wants to spend even more by dipping in your pocket on a PST... I guess that will allow for even bigger spending programs and maybe some debt... At least his appetite for freebies will be satiated (for a while at least).

In terms of AB having a tax and revenue problem... We have billions available without having to assume debt... You (we) have to ask ourselves what are the expectations that we have and at what point do we stop trying to be all things to all people.

Whether you like him or not, Klein had it right - he forced the province to live within its means and didn't mortgage the future of unborn generations
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Yes Ralph had it right during his first term and a part of his second term. The economy started to grow- and funding for infrastructure was not there – It was delayed to the point where project increased 300 to 400 %
Recall the City of Edmonton debacle on the South side- Cost estimated at 75 million- when they finally got around to doing it the cost was ¼ of a billion.
And these examples were rampant under Klein as the economy increased.

Add 2 % on the GST- a consumption tax – fairest tax around.
 
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gerryh said:
You be careful what you say about Saint Ralph.
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Yep, not much wrong with Ralph, he was a champion of the working man to the point of having a beer with them and he didn't take any sh*t..........................Canada's version of George Bush, I suppose, although he probably drank more beer. Perhaps his biggest asset was his philosophy of not spending money he didn't have.
 
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Yep, not much wrong with Ralph, he was a champion of the working man to the point of having a beer with them and he didn't take any sh*t..........................Canada's version of George Bush, I suppose, although he probably drank more beer. Perhaps his biggest asset was his philosophy of not spending money he didn't have.
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Really? You compare Ralph with the semi literate moron, bush?
 
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Ahhh, the mortgaging of future generations canard.

Unlike the Captain, I advocate a restructuring of taxation and royalties to pay our way now, rather than keeping our own self interests protected and passing the pain off on the poor, health care, or the education of our future generations.
 
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Goober said:
Yes Ralph had it right during his first term and a part of his second term. The economy started to grow- and funding for infrastructure was not there – It was delayed to the point where project increased 300 to 400 %
Recall the City of Edmonton debacle on the South side- Cost estimated at 75 million- when they finally got around to doing it the cost was ¼ of a billion.
And these examples were rampant under Klein as the economy increased.

Add 2 % on the GST- a consumption tax – fairest tax around.
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One of the big reasons that AB has a healthy corporate population outside of just oil companies is because of the tax regime. ANy of teh corp HQ's could easily be in Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver (or Dallas, Houston, etc), but they have chosen AB for a variety of reasons - chief among them is the low prov tax.

As for the a PST.. Sure, a consumption tax is the most fair in terms of equitable exposure, but considering that we already have a progressive federal income tax system AND a provincial income tax rate AND GST - adding in PST is just another tax and money grab.

Like I said Goobs, AB has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
 
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captain morgan said:
One of the big reasons that AB has a healthy corporate population outside of just oil companies is because of the tax regime. ANy of teh corp HQ's could easily be in Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver (or Dallas, Houston, etc), but they have chosen AB for a variety of reasons - chief among them is the low prov tax.

As for the a PST.. Sure, a consumption tax is the most fair in terms of equitable exposure, but considering that we already have a progressive federal income tax system AND a provincial income tax rate AND GST - adding in PST is just another tax and money grab.

Like I said Goobs, AB has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
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I think we have both. And throw in savings as well.
 
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JLM said:
Yep, not much wrong with Ralph, he was a champion of the working man to the point of having a beer with them and he didn't take any sh*t..........................Canada's version of George Bush, I suppose, although he probably drank more beer. Perhaps his biggest asset was his philosophy of not spending money he didn't have.
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Bush spent what he did not have.
 
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taxslave said:
Better rethink your numbers. Not many parks employees anymore. Most are contractors making little over minimum wage. Except of course the bureaucraps that put the jobs out to lowest bidder. Prison guards can easily make $80 G + bennies. Just have to work a little OT. SUpplies to do the job are not included in the cost of having an employee. If that were the case I would be an easy $250g. SO would you.



It is probably even cheaper than that when housing is taken into account unless Sask housing has jumped in the last couple of years.
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No. No prison guards are not making $80 + bennys. Not even close. Not even with 10hrs OT a week.


So who are these uber rich you keep taking about? The rich boilermen like Rockefellers making $110K? Where are they? Drinking beer with the $700 a month on welfare crowd living high on the hog?


I could never image trying to get by on $700 a month.

captain morgan said:
One of the big reasons that AB has a healthy corporate population outside of just oil companies is because of the tax regime. ANy of teh corp HQ's could easily be in Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver (or Dallas, Houston, etc), but they have chosen AB for a variety of reasons - chief among them is the low prov tax.

As for the a PST.. Sure, a consumption tax is the most fair in terms of equitable exposure, but considering that we already have a progressive federal income tax system AND a provincial income tax rate AND GST - adding in PST is just another tax and money grab.

Like I said Goobs, AB has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
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If it's so easy on the businesses, why are consumers getting nailed above and beyond? Where is the warm trickling down? Do I have to ask?
 
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petros said:
For some of us work is play. I have zero intention of leaving the sandbox.
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You whistle while you work
 
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