Who's hating? We're discussing facts that apparently the sympathizers of coveting, Islamic terrorists can't handle. "It's hate I tell ya!"
Israel launches Gaza offensive, kills Hamas commander
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Who's hating? We're discussing facts that apparently the sympathizers of coveting, Islamic terrorists can't handle. "It's hate I tell ya!"
Facts? You never did reply to the fact that it's an illegal belligerent occupation. Why not?
Funny you should mention that, I was in Israel this summer and did get horked on by Israeli's. Not the Jewish kind, though.
Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran and aloooong list of others have all said, "end the occupation and we'll end the violence". Why haven't they packed up their JewHauls and exited Palestine?
The UN is a joke.
Not entirely. You're forgetting a rather "insignificant" subject called HISTORY.
And that has what to do with final status negotiations? Nothing. You've come unglued.
The instant Israel exits and Palestine becomes an official State, Israel then has to stand up to it's war crimes and just like the Germans have to pay reparations which will bankrupt them. Unless you want to stand in proxy and bankroll it?
And you buy that? And why should Israel bow down to their threats of more violence anyway!? That's some fukked up thinking right there...
"We will destroy the Jews even if they returned 'Palestine' to us" - Islamic cleric from Egypt
"We love death like you love life" - Hamas spokesman
The Palestinians already agreed they would negotiate a final status. They've been renegging on that. Your fantasies about packing up jewhauls at the behest of various terrorist organizations are amusing, but beyond that have nothing to do with anything.
A cleric? ooOOOOOoo.
So when are you going to Israel to get beat up and horked on by Israelis? They looooove Christians, especially your type.
The entire world knows it's an illegal occupation and there is no bull**** Biblical right to Palestine. None. Zero. Zip.
1) Israel is FAR MORE hospitable than any Islamic nation. According to our friend from the KSA, I wouldn't be able to even pray, *PRAY!*, in public in his Islamic "paradise". 2) People spit on Christians (or worse like throw rocks) here, so quit implying it only happens in Israel.
That's what the bible says, that God gave tiny Israel to the Jews. You can deny the biblical claim as a legitimate reason for Israel's existence all you want, but you cannot deny what it says.
They are more hospitable? Where did you come up with that load of crap? Have you ever been to the Middle East to say that? I have.
You Evangelical types aren't welcome in Israel. Not at all. Your money is though.
I've never been spit on for being a Christian. Little Caesar, is that because I don't slag gays and push my Religion on people and try to push Religious misconceptions through politics?
God had a covenant with the Israelites, NOT the Jews. Jesus came along and the Israelites followed him ( no diaspora..but converts to the NEW Covenant) but the Jews didn't.
Read the Bible you say holds the answers sometime, it's all in there or would you like me to provide Jesus' word in Chapter and Verse?
Merry Christmas In Between Man....Merrrrrry Christmas.
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A lesbian? Are you weaponizing homosexuals? What makes you think that woman is a lesbian? Are all women in the IDF lesbians?
Do you know her or are you just you typical hate filled liberal.
I LOVE when liberals OUT themselves as bigots. Thanks TS!
Don't bother trying to make me see the boo-hoo for either side. Their BS has made it so that, to me, neither side is right and their obsession with each other just needs to stop. Since NEITHER side wants peace, why should I even care anymore? This isn't about rights anymore, it's about continued stupidity of leaders while innocent people die.
Nope, I don't have a TV and even if I did, I wouldn't watch that BS anyway, I'd rather watch something intelligent and informative like Discovery or History or something similar.
As it is, I do feel for the innocents caught in this mess, but until people actually stand up and say enough to BOTH sides and the killing stops on BOTH sides, they have no sympathy from me what so ever. And, IMO, our country shouldn't support EITHER side and should keep our noses out of it all together.
The world was the one who started this mess to begin with by giving land away, the world should be the ones to deal with the ineptitude of the people to handle it until they grow the hell up and prove they deserve the land.
Why are you ignoring what happens in the Islamic countries in the ME compared to free Israel? It's ironic (and illogical) that you don't like persecution of gays, yet the Israel you love to condemn doesn't put gays to death like Islamic countries. In fact, the safest place in the ME for a homosexual would be ... Israel. No?
I've never been spit on either, but my strong biblical stance has been met with fierce opposition. It only proves you to be an appeaser, if folks are comfortable with you being a "christian" only because you fully accept their liberal standard of morality instead of God's perfect standard. You're not following God and what He says, your following the crowd.
I'm not pushing my religion on people. I'm here to share how I see the world through my biblical worldview. That's it. Even when discussing politics, of course I'm going to have a biblical position. To otherwise compartmentalize my faith would be preposterous.
Yeah, and those Israelites were Jews! The ones God made a covenant with and the ones who followed Jesus!
Jews go all the way back to when God called Abraham and he circumcised himself.
Nah, I'm good. I already know who Jews are, who Jesus Christ is, why Israel is here, and what specific events are certain to happen there.
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Liberal! Holy Crap! Yer gonna give TS a hemorrhage. He'll have to don his flack jacket and go into the woods and kill something. Too funny!
Abraham was a Sumerian. Since when does cutting off your foreskin make you a Jew? If it does, then I'm a Jew.
Well you have your misguided beliefs, but you don't know anything by reading a book. The only things you can know is what you experience. Believing what other people tell you is true doesn't make it true. Since men wrote the bible, you are just believing hearsay. That the bible is the word of god is just your belief and opinion. If you want to know the truth, go to the source. Reading someone else's opinions about it is an abdication of responsibility.
Ethnic cleansing, tossing people out of their homes and awarding it to others is a crime against humanity, regardless of how its justified. The Palestinian people (Jews, Muslims, Christians) were here before Zionism existed, before the Holocaust happened. The people in this region got along fine, until heavily armed Jewish refugees showed up and tried to make a predominately Muslim area exclusively Jewish.
If I stole money from your bank account for 60 years, would you be happy if I gave you a 10 month reprieve?
Israel's intent here is to take as much land away from the locals as possible and expand their Jewish only colonies. Once in a while, Israel's rate of theft increases to the point where it makes the news or embarrasses a politician. Then for a short time, Israel reduces the rate of theft or puts planned thefts on hold. After the world has moved on, Israel's leaders go back to stealing Palestinian property. Ethnic cleansing has been a constant for 60 years + years. Every day a few more Palestinians loose their homes and property and a few more Jewish Israelis get to live on stolen property. In the early days, Israel never bothered to demolish the confiscated Palestinian homes. The non-Jews were just forced out at gun point with whatever they could carry and then a Jewish family moved in. The new family would keep what they liked and put the rest out the curb for trash pick up. But for the last decades, the Israeli government has tended to demolish and rebuild... because it hides most of the evidence and is less noticeable.
I gave you a thumbs up because you noticed that innocent people are caught up in this mess.... Our news tends to focus on the war mongers on both sides, rather than the average person caught in the middle.
Today after afternoon prayers, thousands of people across the West bank are doing what they do every Friday afternoon, for years - Non-violently protesting against the root cause of the violence... ethnic cleansing.
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If any religious group went anywhere in the world and violently removed the locals to create an exclusive for their religion country, the result would be that the locals would fight back.
I've observed that our news always reports the suffering of the Israelis and the violence of the Palestinian war criminals, but tends to not report the suffering of Palestinians or the violence of Israeli war criminals... I post the missing information... That doesn't mean I support Palestinian war criminals or the suffering of Israeli civilians.
I have never supported either side's war criminals. I am on the side of the innocent people on both sides. It sounds like you are too. I hope you are able to maintain that viewpoint.
To anyone following this thread:
My post on the first page referenced a source that summarizes the weekly Palestinian experience. I know its long, but anyone who reads it might get a sense of the cruelty, injustice and oppression these people suffer on a daily basis.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/111438-israel-launches-gaza-offensive-kills.html#post1673797
If I stole money from your bank account for 60 years, would you be happy if I gave you a 10 month reprieve?
Israel's intent here is to take as much land away from the locals as possible and expand their Jewish only colonies. Once in a while, Israel's rate of theft increases to the point where it makes the news or embarrasses a politician. Then for a short time, Israel reduces the rate of theft or puts planned thefts on hold. After the world has moved on, Israel's leaders go back to stealing Palestinian property. Ethnic cleansing has been a constant for 60 years + years. Every day a few more Palestinians loose their homes and property and a few more Jewish Israelis get to live on stolen property. In the early days, Israel never bothered to demolish the confiscated Palestinian homes. The non-Jews were just forced out at gun point with whatever they could carry and then a Jewish family moved in. The new family would keep what they liked and put the rest out the curb for trash pick up. But for the last decades, the Israeli government has tended to demolish and rebuild... because it hides most of the evidence and is less noticeable.
I gave you a thumbs up because you noticed that innocent people are caught up in this mess.... Our news tends to focus on the war mongers on both sides, rather than the average person caught in the middle.
Today after afternoon prayers, thousands of people across the West bank are doing what they do every Friday afternoon, for years - Non-violently protesting against the root cause of the violence... ethnic cleansing.
Bil'in - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If any religious group went anywhere in the world and violently removed the locals to create an exclusive for their religion country, the result would be that the locals would fight back.
I've observed that our news always reports the suffering of the Israelis and the violence of the Palestinian war criminals, but tends to not report the suffering of Palestinians or the violence of Israeli war criminals... I post the missing information... That doesn't mean I support Palestinian war criminals or the suffering of Israeli civilians.
I have never supported either side's war criminals. I am on the side of the innocent people on both sides. It sounds like you are too. I hope you are able to maintain that viewpoint.
To anyone following this thread:
My post on the first page referenced a source that summarizes the weekly Palestinian experience. I know its long, but anyone who reads it might get a sense of the cruelty, injustice and oppression these people suffer on a daily basis.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/111438-israel-launches-gaza-offensive-kills.html#post1673797