Confused Americans Moving to Canada

Mowich

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Oh I don't like to see this crowd coming here, they are the whiners and the people who
don't fit in to our way of life.

Oh I doubt they will be coming in crowds, DG. In fact, I doubt many will come at all especially if they come to their senses and realize that Canada is the Democratic far left's vision of Utopia..............or very close to it. ;-)
 

taxslave

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Only Canada, North Korea and Cuba have healthcare systems that are exclusively run by the gvt.

Everyone one the of the examples you have listed combine both public and private systems.

Nice try tay - but, you fail once again.

Our health care system isn't totally run by government either.
 

Mowich

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If they have wealth would they bother coming here?

Why not? There are many American companies operating in Canada right now........how would these guys be any different.........on as strictly business level.........all politics aside. If they have money to invest in Canada and they meet our guidelines etc.....I'm quite sure they would be welcomed in Canada.
 

JLM

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Why not? There are many American companies operating in Canada right now........how would these guys be any different.........on as strictly business level.........all politics aside. If they have money to invest in Canada and they meet our guidelines etc.....I'm quite sure they would be welcomed in Canada.


OK, maybe I misunderstood, just questioning if people who are prospering where they are would want to move, but then I failed to consider it might be for our climate-:).

You mean Saint Pierre and Miquelon just off of Newfoundland?

It's actually two islands. ;-)

Yep, I for one knew about them.
 

gopher

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Here is something I just saw on the news - Americans considering moving to Canada to escape Obama, not realizing that if Obama was a Canadian politician he would be to the right of most Canadians on many of his policies. They also apparently do not realize that Obomacare is a weaker version of Canadian medicare, that gay marriage is common, that there is no death penalty, and that gun ownership is greatly restricted.

Americans Mull Moving To Canada Following Obama Election, Search Engine Traffic Finds

Americans Moving To Canada: The Twitter Trend That Never Dies

Interestingly, there was similar interest in moving to Canada when G.W. Bush was elected, but by supporters of the Democrats instead of the Republicans.


That's because reich wingers are sooooo stupid! You can them them that a thousand times and they still won't believe it.
 

Bar Sinister

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Only Canada, North Korea and Cuba have healthcare systems that are exclusively run by the gvt.

Everyone one the of the examples you have listed combine both public and private systems.

Nice try tay - but, you fail once again.


Actually I don't think he did fail. Socialized medicine means that all citizens have access to some sort of government regulated health care. Canada's health care system has that sort of guarantee, which qualifies it as a form of socialized medicine. To my knowledge all of the nations Tay listed offer that same guarantee, which means they are socialisitc as well whether the services are provided by a private or public entity. And now that the US has "Obamacare" it can be added to the list as well.
 

tay

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Only Canada, North Korea and Cuba have healthcare systems that are exclusively run by the gvt.

Everyone one the of the examples you have listed combine both public and private systems.

Nice try tay - but, you fail once again.


Really ????? Cuba, North Korea and Canada......is this the new axis of evil?


Maybe you should point out which ones are the combination you speak of and back it up with facts. I already know which one's do.


You obviously haven't been to Canada lately. many aspects of the Health care system are privitazed such as labs and physical re-hab centers etc..



2010 Update

Americans spend twice as much as residents of other developed countries on healthcare, but get lower quality, less efficiency and have the least equitable system.

Every other system covers all its citizens, the report noted and said the U.S. system, which leaves 46 million Americans or 15 percent of the population without health insurance, is the most unfair.


In 2007, health spending was $7,290 per person in the United States, more than double that of any other country in the survey.

Australians spent $3,357, Canadians $3,895, Germans $3,588, the Netherlands $3,837 and Britons spent $2,992 per capita on health in 2007. New Zealand spent the least at $2,454.

This is a big rise from the Fund's last similar survey, in 2007, which found Americans spent $6,697 per capita on healthcare in 2005, or 16 percent of gross domestic product.

"We rank last on safety and do poorly on several dimensions of quality," Schoen told reporters. "We do particularly poorly on going without care because of cost. And we also do surprisingly poorly on access to primary care and after-hours care."

Britain, whose nationalized healthcare system was widely derided by opponents of U.S. healthcare reform, ranks first in quality while the Netherlands ranked first overall on all scores, the Commonwealth team found.

more


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65M0SU20100623





Most troubling, the U.S. fails to achieve better health outcomes than the other countries, and as shown in the earlier editions, the U.S. is last on dimensions of access, patient safety, coordination, efficiency, and equity. The Netherlands ranks first, followed closely by the U.K. and Australia. The 2010 edition includes data from the seven countries and incorporates patients' and physicians' survey results on care experiences and ratings on various dimensions of care.


Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: How the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally, 2010 Update - The Commonwealth Fund.
 
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captain morgan

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Actually I don't think he did fail. Socialized medicine means that all citizens have access to some sort of government regulated health care. Canada's health care system has that sort of guarantee, which qualifies it as a form of socialized medicine. To my knowledge all of the nations Tay listed offer that same guarantee, which means they are socialisitc as well whether the services are provided by a private or public entity. And now that the US has "Obamacare" it can be added to the list as well.

US is still different in a number of ways, namely, you will still have the opportunity to have ability to receive services delivered by alternative private providers. In my opinion, Obamacare doesn't provide universal healthcare like Canada - it only demands that everyone has insurance that will provide access to services; much of which is presently private providers

Don't confuse Canada's system; that delists certain procedures from coverage (and thereby opening the door for private providers) annually in order to make the budgets fit with full access to private services.

Really ????? Cuba, North Korea and Canada......is this the new axis of evil?

No... Not new at all

Maybe you should point out which ones are the combination you speak of and back it up with facts. I already know which one's do.


Here's a hint for you Einstein - albeit, there are some ongoing legal challenges in Canada on the issue, Canada's system has a single payer for procedures that are covered by the individual provinces as per the actual procedures that are 'listed' in the coverage.

Fact is, I can travel to any of those other nations as a Canadian and pay to have bypass surgery... Foreigners can not travel to Canada
for the same.

Look into it junior and you'll figure it out

*NB: scratch that; you are too ideologically driven to see anything other than what you want to see.

You obviously haven't been to Canada lately. many aspects of the Health care system are privitazed such as labs and physical re-hab centers etc..

Great... Any full-service private hospitals in that list?

Yeah - I thought not.
 

EagleSmack

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