I agree. If an Afghan soldier came to the US and shot 16 American civilians including women, children and babies, I doubt people minimize the heinous crime or make excuses. More likely these minimizers and apologists would demand the Afghan murderer stay in the US to face justice and if convicted, face the death penalty.Suggestions that the mass murderer was drunk, had an unhappy marriage, or had bumped his head in a car accident (well before he was cleared physically and psychologically for this Afghan tour) have been tossed around.
What's the point of mentioning this information if not to minimize his responsibility for his actions?
How do you know a few didn't smack a couple of airplanes into two buildings killing three thousand?I agree. If an Afghan soldier came to the US and shot 16 American civilians including women, children and babies, I doubt people minimize the heinous crime or make excuses. More likely these minimizers and apologists would demand the Afghan murderer stay in the US to face justice and if convicted, face the death penalty.
I agree. If an Afghan soldier came to the US and shot 16 American civilians including women, children and babies, I doubt people minimize the heinous crime or make excuses. More likely these minimizers and apologists would demand the Afghan murderer stay in the US to face justice and if convicted, face the death penalty.
Afghan leader blasts U.S. over shootings probe
I agree. If an Afghan soldier came to the US and shot 16 American civilians including women, children and babies, I doubt people minimize the heinous crime or make excuses. More likely these minimizers and apologists would demand the Afghan murderer stay in the US to face justice and if convicted, face the death penalty.
exactly. One can imagine the lynch mob mentality that would take hold. Of course planned assassination comes to mind as well.....being that it is an accepted policy now. Imagine the reaction if said killer were to pizz on the bodies, videod it and put it up on UTUBE. Then burnt the bodies.
Thanks for bringing forth that "what if" scenario in the US. Seems there are many layers of "justice" ....Plus that is one scenario folks refuse to acknowledge or consider.
The reality is that this murderer committed an act of TERRORISM in a country that he was deployed to improve, free and move into a more progressive democratic nation. (at least that is what the propaganda machine has been spewing for over a decade now)
Perhaps the Afghans should use the same motto. as the bush regime started: " You are either with us or with the terrorists".(as if the third option of NEITHER does not apply)... and this act shows exactly where that one lies.
critical to note that invasions of choice are also an act of terrorism. Just ask all the terrified populations that have been affected. Murder, rape of citizens in a foreign nation are an act of terrorism. Burning the evidence just compounds the crime.
Afghan leader blasts U.S. over shootings probe
........One would think so.
Your hypocrisy aside. Who is minimizing and apologizing?I agree. If an Afghan soldier came to the US and shot 16 American civilians including women, children and babies, I doubt people minimize the heinous crime or make excuses. More likely these minimizers and apologists would demand the Afghan murderer stay in the US to face justice and if convicted, face the death penalty.
Oh I can imagine it, the bulk of your posts are excellent examples of lynch mob mentality.One can imagine the lynch mob mentality that would take hold.
It wasn't refreshing, it simply massaged your views.Thank you for such a refreshing view ...
What lunch mob was that? Or are you back to making things up?The lynch mob was ready at hand for those that even suggested the murderer be processed by the local judicial system ...
What? Are you really fabricating stuff now?Did anything happen to those young girls before they were shot and burned? Are we to assume that nothing happened to the young girls at the hands of murderous drunkards...
No, the really sad thing is, over a dozen women and children were murdered in cold blood.The really sad thing about where this happened is that it was in an area where Canadians had worked especially to improve relations with the community.
Really? Can you point out some people here with two standards? Who would support beheading the accused with an axe, if he was Afghani?This latest senseless massacre of Afghans proves most Americans, the MSM, our leaders and many people here have two standards of justice. One for "us" and another for "them". The same people making excuses for and rationalizing this killer's heinous crime would support a beheading with an axe if the killer was Afghan and his victims were American women, children and babies.
Since you support truth, I'll be seeing some quotes to back up the claims you just made about the double standards of some here. Right?For the record, I support truth and justice.
I'm positive we aren't. But then again, I'm not prone to using anecdote as evidence, like yourself.I am not that certain that we know the whole truth here.
Wow, and he's not even Muslim.This person should be innocent until proven guilty.
Really? You actually believe that?I do not support the death penalty, but I accept that if I travel to another country, I am subject to their laws.
How do you know a few didn't smack a couple of airplanes into two buildings killing three thousand?
Karzai: US Not Cooperating in Massacre Probe
Delegation Rejects Single Shooter Narrative
by Jason Ditz, March 16, 2012
Speaking today in a meeting with tribal elders and other top officials, Afghan President Hamid Karzai angrily condemned the US for its refusal to cooperate in the ongoing investigation into last weekend’s massacre of civilians in Kandahar Province.
I think the amount of Afghans killed since 9/11 is far beyond how many people died and were impacted by 9/11
Even if the entire country was responsible for 9/11, what has been done in Afghanistan goes far beyond eye for an eye or any sort of justice.
Seems that Afghanistan would be in their rights to arrange an assassination .
The US has set the precident for assassination type "justice".
The above statement expresses a common incorrect perception regarding the Taliban and 9/11.
The Taliban had OBL under guard, confiscated his comms etc as they knew he was up to something. Then they refuse to turn him over.
But in your opinion OBL was innocent of 911.
Planning of the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
According to the intelligence authorities[citation needed] in the United States and the Philippines, the September 11 attacks originated with Operation Bojinka (a plan that was not executed), which was conceived by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (K.S.M) and his nephew, Ramzi Yousef. The first stage would be the assassination of Pope John Paul II, and the bombing of twelve airliners. The second and third stages called for small airplanes loaded with explosives to be crashed into the CIA headquarters. The plot was discovered by Manila police on January 6, 1995 and Abdul Hakim Murad was arrested. Ramzi Yousef was arrested in Pakistan in February 1995. Wali Khan Amin Shah escaped after his arrest, but was re-arrested in Malaysia in December 1995. Khalid Sheik Mohammed escaped, and Riduan Isamuddin, also known as Hambali, was overlooked.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed first presented the idea for the September 11 plot to bin Laden in 1996 in Afghanistan.[10] However, nothing came of the idea at the time. At that point, bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were in a period of transition, having just relocated back to Afghanistan from Sudan.
Mohammed moved to Qatar. Before the government there could arrest him (after a request by the United States), he fled to Afghanistan. The leaders of Al-Qaeda liked the idea of the modified Phases II and III Mohammed presented to them. Instead of using small airplanes loaded with explosives, as Murad planned to do, Mohammed planned to use commercial airliners. Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah became the managers of the plot. During late 1996 and 1997, Khalid Sheik Mohammed stayed in the Czech Republic, as the Taliban allegedly did not approve of his womanising. German officials believe that the leaders of Al-Qaeda planned almost the entire September 11 plot in Afghanistan. Six of the hijackers that were chosen later down the line would have some say in the plot.
Actually, no, he has not said he believed that obl was innocent. All he did was post a truth about the time between 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan.
LAKE TAPPS, WASH. — On a winding road of wood-frame homes tucked amid towering trees, Robert Bales was the father who joined his two young children for playtime in the yard, a career soldier who greeted neighbours warmly but was guarded when talking about the years he spent away at war.
“When I heard him talk, he said ... ‘Yeah, that’s my job. That’s what I do’,” said Kassie Holland, a next-door neighbour to the soldier who is now suspected of killing 16 Afghan civilians. “He never expressed a lot of emotion toward it.”
Speaking to his fellow soldiers, though, Bales could exult in the role. Plunged into battle in Iraq, he told an interviewer for a base newspaper in 2009 that he and his comrades proved “the real difference between being an American as opposed to being a bad guy.”...
World News: Robert Bales, soldier accused in Afghan killings, was a family man - thestar.com
Maybe he'll be free in a year or two.... then again maybe not:
Last year, also in March, another soldier of the Stryker Brigade was sentenced to twenty four years in prison for killing three Afghan civilians. Jeremy Morlock from the 5th Stryker Brigade, along with five of his fellow soldiers, were brought to trial for a similar incident in Afghanistan over killings that occurred between January and May 2010. A military tribunal charged the soldiers with killing civilians for fun, dismembering the bodies before taking photos of them, and keeping human bones as wartime souvenirs.
Afghan massacre suspect identified as Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales — RT
On other threads he referred to the Taliban turning OBL over to another agreed upon country - Also the US was to present evidence to the Taliban of OBLs involvement.
Are you implying linkage as they served in the same unit -
Well....in this instance I would say prove his inconsistency....cause I haven't seen it when it comes to the Taliban, obl, and the u.s.
God damn you really are an idiot..... he supplied evidence of a similar happening showing that those responsible were not just slapped on the wrist.....:roll: