Ontario school cancels Christmas concert

[Corduroy]

So you have before then? Well there's nothing Christ-like about coloured lights on your house. There's plenty associated with Christmas that has nothing to do with Christ.

Just like the Easter bunny has nothing to do with the Resurrection of Christ, or for that matter the gifts given to kids, the chocolates, the eggs.

I'm pretty sure everyone here knows the etymology of Christmas...you're not enlightening anyone with your smugness.

The fact is that many people celebrate Christmas without any religious commemorations of Christ. It's as much a secular holiday now as a celebration of the birth of Christ by Christians.

The sanctity of marriage crowd and the War on Christmas hysteria crowd overlap quite a bit. But there's a contradiction in tactics. Some sanctity of marriage folks want to protect the word 'marriage' and keep it from being applied to same-sex marriages. But when it comes to Christmas, they insist that those celebrating Christmas in a secular way use the word Christmas. What about the sanctity of Christmas? If they go to a store and see Santa, reindeer, decorated trees, rampant consumerism and all those other kinds of pagan activities, wouldn't they be delighted that the store didn't call that Christmas? Shouldn't they be insisting 'Happy Holidays' instead of Christmas?

Well, the answer to this is easy. They're crazy.

 

[Nuggler]

Yew bunch just aint' beeeeen serious ar yez?

by jeeezus, god'll getcha

Joi to the werld...........yep

 

[shadowshiv]

WTF is the matter with people. How many people here do not celebrate Christmas in one form or another; even if it's just to exchange a few presents with family? These half f_cked idiots in these schools with their, "We gotta be inclusive by excluding traditions from our curriculum." should be smacked up side the head.

Bunch of killjoy hypocrites.

Maybe we should take away their Christmas Holidays?

Hmmmmmmmm...

The school wanted to ban balls on the playground, but since that was already done at a different school they wanted to do something else idiotic.

 

[damngrumpy]

Actually I believe its st Josephs school that would lead me to believe its a
Catholic School, but I could be wrong. The actual problem is not the Yoga
pants its the fact they were not worn with anything over their backside and
that caused the problem. At least that is what I heard on CBC on the way
home last night. The truth of the matter is society has moved on to the 21st
century and most of the decision makers and luddites live in around 1948.
Some parents are on the kids side on this one and we will be given the type
of CNN coverage before long. People are dying of hunger in the third world
and we consume our air time talking about yoga pants.
What is wrong with this picture Mr. Mason? of course many won't remember
who Mason was either.

 

[shadowshiv]

Wrong thread, grumpy.

 

[Ron in Regina]

It sort'a Fit's though, in a weird sort'a way.

 

[JLM]

So you have before then? Well there's nothing Christ-like about coloured lights on your house. There's plenty associated with Christmas that has nothing to do with Christ.

Just like the Easter bunny has nothing to do with the Resurrection of Christ, or for that matter the gifts given to kids, the chocolates, the eggs.

I'm pretty sure everyone here knows the etymology of Christmas...you're not enlightening anyone with your smugness.

The fact is that many people celebrate Christmas without any religious commemorations of Christ. It's as much a secular holiday now as a celebration of the birth of Christ by Christians.

My memory must be on the Fritz again but I don't recall saying that everything that happens at Xmas has something to do with Christ. The lights on the house made me think of the Star in the East. The main gist of Xmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ.

 

[In Between Man]

We should take all religion out of public schools unless there are no other real alternatives - like for Muslims.

If it wasn't for double standards, leftists wouldn't have any standards at all.

 

[Chev]

Ms.Bond wondered why the concert couldn’t just broaden its musical horizons toinclude everyone’s traditions. “I have no problem with them putting on a‘holiday’ concert and celebrating every culture; I would welcome it actually,”she said.

I thinkthis idea of Ms. Bond’s to “broaden its musical horizons to include everyone’straditions” would be great. I would like to hear/see traditions from othercountries. But then, perhaps I’m a little more curious and open-minded thansome.

Welive in Edmonton, AB. My oldest son had Christmas concerts forthe first couple years. The first year they did songs from various countries. I remember my son's country was Australia. I have to admit tho, when my sons elementary school, 15years ago… decided not to have Christmas concert, but to have a family night, crafts, horse-drawn sleigh ride, etc…I and my parents were a bit disappointed that we would not see my other 2 sonsin a Christmas concert.

Mysons and I had great time at the family night… it was still very festive.

Ihave seen signs at schools around Edmontonannouncing winter concerts. Interesting to me, if I didn’t have to workevenings, I’d check it out.

 

[Corduroy]

The main gist of Xmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ.

I like the presents, food and booze.

 

[Spade]

We could call it Saturnalia; after all Easter takes its name after the fertility goddess Oester.

 

[Chev]

“For me and my kids, Christmas is reallyimportant,” said Mary Ellen Schellenberg. “I don’t think we should lose out onwhat we believe in, especially when it’s a small group of people who sit out bychoice.”
Please don’t get me wrong.. I don’t likethe fact that I have to be careful who I wish Merry Christmas to at work (I’min retail) or anywhere else.
Is there not many/any other Christmas events/outingsyou could take your children to?
(P.S. Not to change the subject.. but At my sons elementary school therewas issues about scary/bloody Halloween costumes too. One year several kids came fromKosovo/Serbia/Albania)

 

[petros]

Actually it began as a pagan celebration which was commenderred by the
Christians. Most of the stuff people commonly associate with Christmas (trees,
wreaths, greenery) is pagan in origin.

Are you sure those traditions didn't come from the "other" Catholics and were made trendy through a story book and marketing in the Victorian era?

 

[Tonington]

My memory must be on the Fritz again but I don't recall saying that everything that happens at Xmas has something to do with Christ.

Well that is exactly what I said in the post you quoted, to which you replied that you were pretty sure that Christmas is a derivation of Christ. But clearly Christmas is also now secular.

The main gist of Xmas is the celebration of the birth of Christ.

Like I said, that depends. It is for some families and not so for others. Buy lots of crap, that's secular and most people regardless of their celebration of Christ's birth or otherwise buy lot's of crap. Not very Christ-like to go Christmas shopping on Black Friday and get into fist fights over the last 42" LED television marked down to $499.

 

[JLM]

Well that is exactly what I said in the post you quoted, to which you replied that you were pretty sure that Christmas is a derivation of Christ. But clearly Christmas is also now secular.

By definition it is the celebration of the birth of Christ, how people choose to celebrate it is a subordinate meaning. If I choose to sit around masturbating on Hallowe'en, that has nothing to do with the meaning of Halloewe'en. :smile:

 

[SLM]

By definition it is the celebration of the birth of Christ, how people choose to celebrate it is a subordinate meaning. If I choose to sit around masturbating on Hallowe'en, that has nothing to do with the meaning of Halloewe'en. :smile:

Was there no other analogy that you could make? Cuz that I did not need to know.

 

[Tonington]

By definition it is the celebration of the birth of Christ, how people choose to celebrate it is a subordinate meaning.

Who is arguing with the definition? You can't have a celebration without people, how people celebrate isn't subordinate. Traditions change. :roll:

If I choose to sit around masturbating on Hallowe'en, that has nothing to do with the meaning of Halloewe'en. :smile:

:roll: Talking about masturbation, this is mental masturbation. How many people do you know that celebrate Halloween by masturbating? Actually I don't think I want to know the answer to that... This has no connection whatsoever to secular Christmas celebrations.

 

[JLM]

Was there no other analogy that you could make? Cuz that I did not need to know.

Nothing there to KNOW, it was just an arbitrary example (never happened in fact). :lol:

Who is arguing with the definition? You can't have a celebration without people, how people celebrate isn't subordinate. Traditions change. :roll:

Of course you can, I can celebrate with a pack of cigars, a bottle of rum and my dog. :smile:

 

[CDNBear]

Of course you can, I can celebrate with a pack of cigars, a bottle of rum and my dog. :smile:

 

[Tonington]

Of course you can, I can celebrate with a pack of cigars, a bottle of rum and my dog. :smile:

You're not a human being? That explains a lot.