Abortion demonstration just doesn't sound right.
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I try not to denigrate posters (don't always succeed) but to be frank, you sir, disgust me, decent debaters don't call people they disagree with "douche bags", but I suppose it would take one to know one. 8O
Douche bag isn't anywhere as bad as being the nozzle. Speaking of douching wasn't that a nice clean way of reducing the possibility of pregnancy once upon a time?
It's a pitty, that since I'm on his iggy list that Cubby won't see what I think of him;-):lol:
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interesting.
and again.
This no different than saying that you are against diddling little boys and girls but you don't want to force your personal standard on anyone else.
Ooooooh, ooooooooooh hold on Gerry, it's not quite that black & white. There is never any excuse for molesting children, but there are rare instances where abortions are justified. Tubal pregnancy is a valid reason.
Ann Coulter on the murder of a US abortion doctor.
(paraphrased)
"I don't like to call it murder, I prefer to think of it as being terminated in the 203 trimester"
"I don't approve of killing abortion doctors, but I wouldn't want to impose my beliefs on anyone else.'
Ahhh...the absolute beauty of her logic....
Sometimes I like Ann.
Sometimes....well.....
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There is a huge difference. The law has determined that child molestation is illegal whereas abortion is not. Child sexual abuse is a community standard (not just my personal one) where there is no debate or opposition. Abortion on the other hand has much debate and differing opinions and cannot be held as a majority view in any way for either side hence we have the personal choice.
And really, the annoucement from the catholic church today sums up their position of child molesters. Church officials will be required to report abuse within the church "where required by law". So as long as that priest is in a parish where there is no law requiring the other officials to report it he is free to do as many altar-boys as he wants.
I'm sorry, a tubal will kill the mother and the baby, a baby forming around an IUD will not live and could quite possible kill the mother through potential toxic shock. Let's stop with the extremely few and far between and stick to the vast majority. Unless the abortionists have problems justifying abortion without them.
Ann Coulter on the murder of a US abortion doctor.
(paraphrased)
"I don't like to call it murder, I prefer to think of it as being terminated in the 203 trimester"
"i don't approve of killing abortion doctors, but I wouldn't want to impose my beliefs on anyone else.'
Ahhh...the absolute beauty of her logic....
Sometimes I like Ann.
Sometimes....well.....
and this is a prime example of why I think the ugly bitch is a waste of skin.
I don't know for sure but I don't think there are any laws that specifically require the church to report abuse. Doctors, social workers, teachers yes, the church, I don't believe so. I could be wrong I haven't looked. I just thought it was funny they would only force the deacons and such to report it if it was legally required instead of just a blanket order to report it all the time.
Does an actual child have a say in what school they go to, or where they live, or when they can drink, or when they can drive, or vote, or make any other type of decisions about their life?
No, that falls under the parent's responsibility or the state. In many cases, it falls under the parent's responsibility when it comes to medical procedures their children have done to them..... and the State already determined the other things..... just as it already determined a Fetus's status.
So why do you think a fetus of all things should be able to make decisions more then living, breathing children who've already been born?
Since you can't even ask a fetus what it thinks, let alone wants, why are you even trying to make an argument over it being able to "get a say" in the matter in the first place?
Do you even understand how foolish that sounds?
A friggin dog can signal to you what it likes & doesn't like more then a fetus..... yet we don't provide a dog human rights do we?
Again, your emotionally-based arguments make no sense and have no relation to what's being talked about.
I've already been born, I already have human rights protecting me, I already have the ability to make decisions on my life, I already have the ability to voice myself....... just as you do.
So no, I won't have a change of heart, because both situations do not relate to one another.
But hey, if you want to equate your level of intelligence to an unborn, under-developed fetus, be my guest. :roll:
So to is comparing a developing fetus to a born and/or fully grown human being.
Oh yeah..... period.
I only have 6 pages, it depends on your settings in the forum.
And indeed, if these people are fighting for a fetus to have a say in the matter & have rights for it to defend itself with..... why don't these fetusez speak up?
Oh that's right, because they can't..... because they don't have a friggin clue wtf is going on, where they are, or if they even exist...... they can't even tell you their favorite colour...... because they exist in a black abbyss in the womb.
Oh but they need rights given to them to protect them.... they need other people like some in here to voice what they assume a fetus would think or believe, without any sort of evidence or proof backing them up.
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Nope we have only determined that most pro-life think they are holier then holy so they ride on there high horse to try to impose how much better they are on the rest of the planet.
So far thats all I've learned
In there head they think there better then normal people
Well, I have news for you buddy, you'd be wrong on two counts, first not all of us are religious and second we don't think we are better than a fetus! So suck on that for awhile. :lol: