Well, I have news for you buddy, you'd be wrong on two counts, first not all of us are religious and second we don't think we are better than a fetus! So suck on that for awhile. :lol:
Yes, cuz that sounds soo much better :roll:
Sorry, but I am better & more intelligent then a fetus or two-celled organism..... if you want to say you're the same as an undeveloped fetus that hasn't even begun to have a functioning brain, all the power to you :lol:
And you don't have to be religious to act like you're "Holier then thou"
You like digging a big hole for yourself? You were the one who brought up "holier" (religious). How does not thinking I'm better than a fetus equate to thinking I'm better than people? Maybe you should look for a Logic 3 course in your neighbourhood!
Yep, the depth of the man's wisdom is overwhelming. :lol::lol::lol:
And you claiming you're the same as a turnip is better?
Because until a fetus is to the stage of being born, taking its first breath and finally becoming aware of itself and its surroundings, that's all it is.... a vegetable..... thus you're claiming you're the same.
Logic 3 course indeed. :roll:
LOL. A heartbeat is the first sign of life,
As mentioned before, "Life" is irrelevant because a strawberry is alive, an ant is alive, a tree is alive, blood cells are alive, fungus is alive..... yet we don't give them basic human rights simply because they're alive.
And just because it's made up of human DNA, doesn't mean it should automatically be given human rights either, because we'd have to give those same rights to our lungs, heart, kidney, hair follicle.... and until a fetus is born, that's all it amounts to.
The only reason why people want to give a fetus human rights and try to ban abortions, is simply because they placed emotional thinking to something they felt kick and think that makes it special.
My heart beats and can feel like a mild kick...... but I don't think of it as some special entity that should be given human rights, because I and everybody else is simply conditioned over their lifetimes to it being there and doing that.
It's a part of my body and a part of my survival, just as a fetus and reproduction is a part of my genes survival through reproduction, and until that fetus becomes a born, living & breathing human being, aware of itself and its surroundings, it doesn't amount to jack sh*t........ it's a cold heartless thing to say, but it's also the truth.
As mentioned before and as so many have avoided or simply can't refute..... there are certain requirements that must be made to warrant something being given basic human rights, and a fetus doesn't fit those requirements anymore then a lump of my sh*t in the toilet does.
Whatever special values you give a fetus beyond that is subjective emotional dribble.
but that heartbeat could not sustain itself. Having life means being able to also sustain life. If it cannot be sustained, it is not a viable person. There does come a time when there has been too much fetal development so ... with the right to abortion, there includes the responsibility to terminate at an early stage of pregnancy. With today's rapid pregnancy test, women know rather instantly. Certainly they need a couple of days to sort it out, but then the decision should be made as abortions require a couple of weeks to schedule. Abortions should be done up until the 8th week, in my opinion, but after that there should be some restrictions. 12 weeks is pushing it, because all sorts of movement starts - and it's not just because it's growing. Anyway, lots to debate, but ... without a victim, there is no crime.
Agreed, there should be certain limits to abortions and those limits are currently met with the current laws and regulations, thus the abortion debate no longer needs to be debated...... it's these pro-lifers whom just don't seem to get this and still think they have some sort of valid point to be made..... which they don't.
