The Complete Wikileaks Thread(All threads merged here!)

[YukonJack]

Good job combining threads on the same or similar subject.

If only those who go posting helter-skelter without looking first, you and the other moderators would not have waste time correcting their carelessness.

 

[shadowshiv]

Good job combining threads on the same or similar subject.

If only those who go posting helter-skelter without looking first, you and the other moderators would not have waste time correcting their carelessness.

To be fair, the majority of these threads was created by one member who posted them in a flurry of mad posting. It seems to go in cycles as well. We went throught the same thing with Obama's election, Haiti, Sarah Palin, etc.

 

[petros]

The rape charges aren't real it's CIA they pull thistype of **** all the time and I'll quote myself again which was BEFORE any news of a rape hit the newswires.

Quote:

#57
Re: U.S. to Canada: WikiLeaks release may hurt relations

1 week ago


Assange will myteriously die in a car or plane crash or be linked to hookers and cocaine very soon.

Just watch......


It may or not have been cocaine but....."NAIL ON THE HEAD" for sex scandal!!
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[Cliffy]

The rape charges aren't real it's CIA they pull thistype of **** all the time and I'll quote myself again which was BEFORE any news of a rape hit the newswires.

Quote:

#57
Re: U.S. to Canada: WikiLeaks release may hurt relations

1 week ago


Assange will myteriously die in a car or plane crash or be linked to hookers and cocaine very soon.

Just watch......


It may or not have been cocaine but....."NAIL ON THE HEAD" for sex scandal!!
​

Par for the course. It is all part and parcel of American freedom. North Americans love sex scandals because they are so sexually repressed. They inherited it from the Brits.

 

[mentalfloss]

American Freedom?

Also, the Australian Foreign Minister points the finger right back at the U.S.

Wikileaks: Australia FM blames US, not Julian Assange

Kevin Rudd, Australian foreign minister: "US personnel responsible for cable leak." Australia's foreign minister has said the US is to blame for the release of thousands of diplomatic cables on Wikileaks, not its Australian founder, Julian Assange.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11945558

Time for some Americans to line up and take their bullet, lol

 

[YukonJack]

Typical front page from an obsolete garbage pile that makes the National Enquirer a literary and journalistic master piece.

 

[TenPenny]

Kevin Rudd, Australian foreign minister: "US personnel responsible for cable leak."

It's hard to argue with that statement.
Wikileaks may have published it, but they aren't responsible for copying and leaking the information.

 

[JLM]

Typical front page from an obsolete garbage pile that makes the National Enquirer a literary and journalistic master piece.

I don't think I'd go quite that far. :lol:

 

[ironsides]

The U.S. had no plans to charge him, but not that he is caught they are mulling over a espionage charge if it is warranted. As for the rape charges being a CIA thing, they are more another Canadian CIA conspiracy theory. (anything you do not like, the CIA did it)

 

[darkbeaver]

Everyone likes this holly wood stuff stuff eh. Julian Massage is a cheap hooker for the banking class. This whole ball of crap is just to keep our minds and eyes off the hands of the chosen. Watch closely as the war spiral widens, prepare to sacrifice your children for the greater whatever. Contemporary demockracy, what a tragic farce, the rule of snakes in suits nears its apex while we are happily entertained by fiddle tunes from just beyond the smoke.

Information is only important because of what you do with it. So I wouldn't say the leaks are important because we now know about them. What I am asking is, are all these media outlets simply making matters worse in the distribution of the information so widely and are they guilty of some level of treason as well? I noticed the Toronto Star posted a link to the Wikileaks new site.

Good to hear from you again Unforgiven. In my opinion the leaks are connected with the AIPAC & Rosen spy trials. Also in my opinion there isn't one doubt in ten billion that Israel is the intel picker and the intel user. Nobody but them benefits. Treason, who can tell us what treason is to any nation these days? My own prime minister and the virtual entirety of the Canadian Parliament will be found guilty of treason on a grand scale as soon as democracy is (if) restored in Canada. These *****s have sold us to the internationalists, all Canadian soverienty has been surrendered to the corporatists and the bankers. Think I,m kidding, have a boo at the SPP agreements, have some more with NATO agreements and if that don,t suffice understand that we are obliged by treaty, signed by that dung ball Stockswell Daytrip, to stand side by side with the vilest most despicable nation on earth and defend their extermination of Palestine.
Anyway sure the mass media are guilty of treason but that has been true for a very long time, it is in fact how we have come to this sorry place in our national experience. Every last one of the gutless reps of the MSM in this country can and will be charged beunder existing Canadian law, law which has been too long ignored in the service of globalist murderers.

 

[petros]

These *****s have sold us to the internationalists, all Canadian soverienty has been surrendered to the corporatists and the bankers.

GovermentSachs are the ones who really run Canada. One former and one still employed by GovermentSachs run the Bank of Canada.

And yet there is no "conflict of interest" brought up by even the most democractic of the parties.

 

[earth_as_one]

How little knowledge you picked up while in China, and how little you know about your own country. You want an example:

" I have been to China and saw people conscious of every word they spoke, every movement was closely monitored by the police"


http://www.lnahinu.com/blog/2008/03/25/you-cannot-compare-the-us-and-china/

I have only been to Hong Kong, so I will not comment other than we had a great time.

I spent two weeks in Shanghai and Beijing. I was not followed, or harassed by state authorities. I barely saw any police and outside of Tiananmen square, I rarely saw soldiers. The soldiers didn't budge from their posts while on duty, but off duty, they were friendly and one volunteered to use our camera to take a picture of us. In general I found Chinese people polite and friendly but busy. After seeing China first hand, I've come to the conclusion that most of what we've been told about China by the mainstream media is either BS or out of date.

That's my opinion, based on first hand experience. Sounds like your first hand experience was similar.

BTW, I am well aware China has problems:
Amnesty International 2010 Annual Report
China

The authorities continued to tighten restrictions
on freedom of expression, assembly and association
due partly to sensitivities surrounding a series of
landmark anniversaries, including the 60th
anniversary of the People’s Republic on 1 October.
Human rights defenders were detained, prosecuted,
held under house arrest and subjected to enforced
disappearance. Pervasive internet and media
controls remained. “Strike hard” campaigns resulted
in sweeping arrests in the Xinjiang Uighur
Autonomous Region (XUAR), particularly following
violence and unrest in July. Independent human
rights monitoring was prevented in Tibetanpopulated
regions. The authorities continued to
strictly control the parameters of religious practice,
with Catholic and Protestant groups practising
outside official bounds being harassed, detained and
sometimes imprisoned. The severe and systematic
10-year campaign against the Falun Gong
continued....

http://thereport.amnesty.org/sites/default/files/AIR2010_AZ_EN.pdf#page=51

But I'd say their problems are marginally worse that the US:
http://thereport.amnesty.org/sites/default/files/AIR2010_AZ_EN.pdf#page=290



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Back on topic. I'm convinced now that Assange is just a figurehead and locking him up on bogus rape charges will make matters worse. The anarchists will escalate their attacks against the US government and large corporations. I'm going to fence sit. I against the attack, but the victim is hardly innocent.

 

[lone wolf]

Re: U.S. to Canada: WikiLeaks release may hurt relations

No doubt there'll some juicy tidbits about wikileak sometime soon. Gotta love soiled laundry as related by e-gossip

No Secret.... It's just the way they do business. If you can't impress (or silence) 'em with intelligence, baffle 'em with (or bury 'em in) booshyte. All the means to discredit

 

[DaSleeper]

Re: Hu Jintao, "Kim, You Can't Even Feed 20 Million People?"

There was already a thread on this. It was moved into the huge "Complete Wikileaks" thread so I can see why you missed it. I'll merge this one with that.

Maybe the same thing could be done with the global warming threads???.....

Three of them on the front page.....

 

[petros]

“To tell the truth is revolutionary.”

 

[Spade]

“To tell the truth is revolutionary.”

Well, Petros, we are told the truth so seldom, we're offended by it. It's seditious to be exposed to the truth; it affects the gonads of the "manly" among us!

 

[petros]

Well, Petros, we are told the truth so seldom, we're offended by it. It's seditious to be exposed to the truth; it affects the gonads of the "manly" among us!

How can it affect what they don't have?

 

[Spade]

"The truth will set you free (but you'll be crucified fer tellin' it!)"
- JC as told in John 8:32

 

[Colpy]

"The truth will set you free (but you'll be crucified fer tellin' it!)"
- JC as told in John 8:32

And sometimes that crucifixition is absolutely justified........

Is stealing secret information justifiable if it blows the whistle on wrongdoing? Perhaps. But that's not what WikiLeaks does. It doesn’t embarrass wrongdoers. It exposes and endangers real whistleblowers.
WikiLeaks published a document that named an Algerian activist covertly aiding the democracy movement there. It identified a Venezuelan reporter secretly exposing the appalling conditions of hospitals for the poor. Both are real whistleblowers. Both were outed by Assange.
Assange admits WikiLeaks will probably end up with "blood on our hands." But he's not too worried.
Vladimir Putin and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad can't believe their good luck.
So it’s not wiki. It's not leaks. It's not whistleblowing. It's not even journalism. Assange got his hands on e-mails sent by Venezuela's ambassador to Argentina. He tried to auction them to the highest bidder - presumably to Chavez, too. That's not journalism. That's a shakedown. Maybe even a willingness to keep secrets, for the right price.
Then there's Assange's threat that if he's treated improperly - say, if he's forced to stand trial for rape in Sweden - he'll release another batch of secrets, he has labelled "insurance."
If a real journalist had real news, he'd publish it for its own sake. But by using his "news" as a bargaining chip, he gives away his game. It's not journalism. It's espionage. It's a weapon of war. And if police try to hold him accountable to the law, he'll use his weapon.
Assange revealed secret U.S. counterterrorism work in Yemen. That will likely end now, and Yemen may fall to al-Qaida.
Do you doubt if WikiLeaks was around in the 1940s it would have tipped off the Nazis to D-Day or leaked Anne Frank's hiding place too?

Ezra Levant

 

[mentalfloss]

Why are you putting so much faith in Levant? You do realize this guy wrote a book called 'ethical oil'. He's a spinster, and a bad one at that. "Durr I talked to a guy who was an NDP advocate and I hatedz him."

Good for him. This Ad hominem bull**** is 5th century and has got to stop.

Check this out if you still have an irrational death warrant for these guys:
So, Why is WikiLeaks a Good Thing Again?