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Trotz

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Re: The rape case against Wikileaks' Julian Assange

As I understand, Assange has documents on hold that are otherwise incriminating and will be released if he dies (namely, you know, all the ''accidents'' that tend to happen on highways in Europe)

So instead of murdering him, western governments are probably going with the next best option in harassing him and have him thrown into jail.
 

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Does anyone else think its an unlikely co-incidence that wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been charged with rape and molestation at the same time he has released hundreds of thousands of damaging documents and his website is the focus of a massive denial of service attack?

The basis for the rape and molestation charges are ridiculous:
Sweden's reputation is on trial in Julian Assange case | Herald Sun

Also this link explains how wikileaks works, how to send anonymous tips and the ongoing wikileak denial of service attack.
WikiLeaks for Dummies: A brief lowdown for the not-so-tech savvy

Is this in another one of your parallel universes?
 

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I am, as usual, with CDN Bear on this one. The charges are a joke. But so (obviously) is Swedish law.

I'm also with Flanagan. Warn him publicly, then, if he continues, hunt him down, pop him once in the head, problem solved.

He is offering aid and comfort to the enemy.........when you become so weak you can't handle dangerous espionage practised in the open......well, you have huge problems.

A little later......

I had not realized the depth of his depravity.

Death to Assange.

His obsession is to embarrass the world’s freest countries — the U.S. and U.K. And as to repressive regimes, well, put it this way, Assange says U.S. forces must remember “shooting the Taliban is shooting the Afghan people.”

He’s not anti-war. He’s on the other side.

Assange published the names of Afghan human rights activists and others who have co-operated with the U.S. — giving out names of villages and GPS coordinates.

That’s not journalism. That’s not whistleblowing. That’s setting up “deadly revenge attacks,” says Reporters Without Borders.

Zabihullah Mujahid is grateful. He’s a Taliban spokesman who says “we know how to punish them.”

Assange published details about technology used to stop improvised explosive devices (IEDs) from being detonated. WikiLeaks calls roadside bombs a “rebel investment,” proudly pointing out for every dollar spent by the terrorists, the U.S. and Canada have to spend a thousand to defend against them. So Assange published those anti-IED details online.


Ezra Levant

The quicker we kill him, the happier I am. Flanagan was perfectly correct. He puts Canadian soldiers at risk.........that outside of the fact he has marked our allies for murder.

If the above is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, I would shoot Assange myself, given the opportunity........

Death to Assange. Now.
 
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I think the charges are a sham, but I'm not brain dead enough to believe in or even merely entertain the notion that the US military or Government is behind the actions of two publicity hungry women.

Really though. I'm sure if that were even remotely true, that such communications would have been prominently displayed in this list of diplomatic cables!!!
 

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Dead? Why would you want anyone who's facilitating a change in diplomacy for the better, dead? This can only result in the evolution of open and cooperative discussions between diplomats over the next 10 or so years.

The U.S. admin is getting their humbling, and responding predictably, with the same old hegemonic attitude. If anything, this really helps solidify the farce of 'democracy' and 'constitutionalism' -- especially on the conservative side of things. No one takes them seriously now.

With these releases, I'm sure transparency will become the #1 issue that the public clamors for. And there's a lot of votes to be had there. There's no reason for espionage or even top secret diplomacy. Everything should be made public.

No, don't kill him. Crown him. And let's hope the dirt piles on. The sooner we get the truth out, the more difficult it will be for government to deny their own hegemonic belligerence.
 
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Dead? Why would you want anyone who's facilitating a change in diplomacy for the better, dead? This can only result in the evolution of open and cooperative discussions between diplomats over the next 10 or so years.

The U.S. admin is getting their humbling, and responding predictably, with the same old hegemonic attitude. If anything, this really helps solidify the farce of 'democracy' and 'constitutionalism' -- especially on the conservative side of things. No one takes them seriously now.

With these releases, I'm sure transparency will become the #1 issue that the public clamors for. And there's a lot of votes to be had there. There's no reason for espionage or even top secret diplomacy. Everything should be made public.

No, don't kill him. Crown him. And let's hope the dirt piles on. The sooner we get the truth out, the more difficult it will be for government to deny their own hegemonic belligerence.

Are you out of your ****ing mind? Even ignoring the silly, incredibly niave idea that all diplomacy should be done in the open, (insert rolled eyes here), this man is a sociopathic moron.......a deadly enemy.

Read the link, for God's sake! Ezra Levant

The man is setting up good people to be murdered.

He is setting up our soldiers to be killed.

He needs to die....he is our enemy....by that I mean yours, as well as mine.

Death to Assange!
 

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He's a crafty marketeer. Look at all the publicity you're giving him.

If Ezra's accusations are true, and so far no one can refute them, then yes, I'd LOVE to give Assange some publicity....

I imagine his funeral would be a very public affair.
 

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Time to bust out the pitchforks!



Nothing that Ezra has stated is anything but rhetoric. Where's the threat to national security here? Geez, people are still falling for this. You would have figured we'd learn from that useless 8-year war that we "won". What a joke.

Whenever the government wants to control you, they imply that there is some threat to national security. It's the same gag the right has been using for years and people are foolish enough to fall for it. It's the same reason why millions are wasting money on TSA screening procedures. It flies in the face of constitutionalism, and in this case, even the ultra conservative ideal of anti-federalism.

If Ezra practiced what he preached, he would be praising Assange right now instead of condemning him. And he would be putting pressure on the federal government to be more responsible instead of defending them. So much for standing up for the republic, eh?

He's a shill.
 
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Re: The rape case against Wikileaks' Julian Assange

Ironically, he lives in secret. As does the entire Wikileaks organization. Where's their transparency? Why aren't they publishing their employee list with names and addresses? lol

Apparenly what's good for the goose, for the gander....not so much.
 

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Dead? Why would you want anyone who's facilitating a change in diplomacy for the better, dead? This can only result in the evolution of open and cooperative discussions between diplomats over the next 10 or so years.

You might be able to claim he was "facilitating a change in diplomacy" if he applied his standards to all but he doesn't: he targets western nations. That weakens his selected nations, not changes everyone, and the enemies of his targets generally aren't kindly disposed to Canadians, as we do share the same core values as the Brits and Americans.

The U.S. admin is getting their humbling, and responding predictably, with the same old hegemonic attitude. If anything, this really helps solidify the farce of 'democracy' and 'constitutionalism' -- especially on the conservative side of things. No one takes them seriously now.

I don't know about this. I haven't seen anything particularly humbling in the "revelations". So Hilary Clinton is on record for authorizing spying at the UN. Big deal. Do you honestly believe directives from Moscow, Tehran, Beijing and other capitals are any different? If you do, you need to gain some perspective...

With these releases, I'm sure transparency will become the #1 issue that the public clamors for. And there's a lot of votes to be had there. There's no reason for espionage or even top secret diplomacy. Everything should be made public.

No, the public won't demand more transparency: some members of the media MIGHT. So far this whole Wikileaks thing has been much ado about nothing. And yes there are very valid reasons for espionage and top secret diplomacy. Not every country is friendly and honest about their intentions... and it is the RESPONSIBILITY of our gov't to discover if those intentions pose a danger to the people of Canada.Sometimes (not always but sometimes) just showing those other nations what you know in private can allow them to find a way to save face and back away from those actions. If you don't understand this, you have no place in a discussion on international affairs or regarding other nations.

No, don't kill him. Crown him. And let's hope the dirt piles on. The sooner we get the truth out, the more difficult it will be for government to deny their own hegemonic belligerence.

I don't think I'm usually quite as emphatic as Colpy but its hard to think of any other way to treat Assange. His actions endanger the lives of others. These aren't accidents, these are intentional actions with no regard for the danger he may be placing people in. At the very least, he deserves a long stretch in a cell with no contact with the outside world.
 

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Re: The rape case against Wikileaks' Julian Assange

Dead? Why would you want anyone who's facilitating a change in diplomacy for the better, dead? This can only result in the evolution of open and cooperative discussions between diplomats over the next 10 or so years.

The U.S. admin is getting their humbling, and responding predictably, with the same old hegemonic attitude. If anything, this really helps solidify the farce of 'democracy' and 'constitutionalism' -- especially on the conservative side of things. No one takes them seriously now.

With these releases, I'm sure transparency will become the #1 issue that the public clamors for. And there's a lot of votes to be had there. There's no reason for espionage or even top secret diplomacy. Everything should be made public.

No, don't kill him. Crown him. And let's hope the dirt piles on. The sooner we get the truth out, the more difficult it will be for government to deny their own hegemonic belligerence.

I hate to say it but I 100% agree with this. Wikileaks is a great thing. We need to be informed when governments give millions away to people that don't exist and fund both sides of the war. The illegitimate war we fight for no reason at all. 92% of Afghans don't even know about 9/11. It's all a farce. There are no enemies. Both sides are run by the same people. It's war for war's sake.
 

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You might be able to claim he was "facilitating a change in diplomacy" if he applied his standards to all but he doesn't: he targets western nations. That weakens his selected nations, not changes everyone, and the enemies of his targets generally aren't kindly disposed to Canadians, as we do share the same core values as the Brits and Americans.

There are plenty of cables on the other diplomats. And they've only released 600 out of 250,000. I'm sure he's not just picking sides here. The stronger point though, is that the wealthier nations must be more responsible because they have more influence. You remember what Spidey's uncle said!

No, the public won't demand more transparency: some members of the media MIGHT. So far this whole Wikileaks thing has been much ado about nothing. And yes there are very valid reasons for espionage and top secret diplomacy. Not every country is friendly and honest about their intentions... and it is the RESPONSIBILITY of our gov't to discover if those intentions pose a danger to the people of Canada.Sometimes (not always but sometimes) just showing those other nations what you know in private can allow them to find a way to save face and back away from those actions. If you don't understand this, you have no place in a discussion on international affairs or regarding other nations.

There's no threat. If you would like to discuss a serious and legitimate threat then go for it. Until then, you're basically saying we should kill someone who has caused no legitimate harm to any of us except for possibly damaging our leaders reputations. It's a bit nuts to put their rich butts on some moral high ground while we collectively throw away democracy here.

I don't think I'm usually quite as emphatic as Colpy but its hard to think of any other way to treat Assange. His actions endanger the lives of others. These aren't accidents, these are intentional actions with no regard for the danger he may be placing people in. At the very least, he deserves a long stretch in a cell with no contact with the outside world.

Again, this viewpoint is absolutely ludicrous and has no foundation in reality. Oh, well, except for the reality a few deceptive politicians would have you believe.
 

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There's no threat. If you would like to discuss a serious and legitimate threat then go for it. Until then, you're basically saying we should kill someone who has caused no legitimate harm to any of us except for possibly damaging our leaders reputations. It's a bit nuts to put their rich butts on some moral high ground while we collectively throw away democracy here.

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I hate to stoop to insult, but one has to wonder.....you can read, can't you?

Assange has put the lives of our soldiers in extreme jeopardy by revealing technical details of their anti-IED equipment.

Assange has put the lives of our allies in Afghanistan in extreme jeopardy, as he has revealed their links to NATO forces....(that's US, in case you didn't realize)

Assange is an Australian, as such he is a traitor.

Have you read Levant?

Or have you simply made up your mind, stuck your head in the sand, and don't wish to be confused by bothersome reality?????

I wish I could say your extreme niavete is refreshing, but it is anything but..........
 

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Re: The rape case against Wikileaks' Julian Assange

Does anyone else think its an unlikely co-incidence that wikileaks founder Julian Assange has been charged with rape and molestation at the same time he has released hundreds of thousands of damaging documents and his website is the focus of a massive denial of service attack?
I made a post about him being in a trumped cocaine and hooker scandal a week or two ago. I'll have to dig that up
 

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Assange has put the lives of our soldiers in extreme jeopardy by revealing technical details of their anti-IED equipment.

Assange has put the lives of our allies in Afghanistan in extreme jeopardy, as he has revealed their links to NATO forces....(that's US, in case you didn't realize)

It's pretty common knowledge now that NATO is causing more harm than good, so I don't see where the problem is here. I mean, take your pic on your favourite Nato blunder - Nicaragua, Kosovo, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan. Complete waste of money justified by fear mongering the population.
 

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It's pretty common knowledge now that NATO is causing more harm than good, so I don't see where the problem is here. I mean, take your pic on your favourite Nato blunder - Nicaragua, Kosovo, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan. Complete waste of money justified by fear mongering the population.
Yugoslavia - - By stopping Genocide - Kosovo - Stopping Genocide - So step up and splain yourself with some facts rather than those off the top of your head commentary.
 

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It's pretty common knowledge now that NATO is causing more harm than good, so I don't see where the problem is here. I mean, take your pic on your favourite Nato blunder - Nicaragua, Kosovo, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan. Complete waste of money justified by fear mongering the population.

EXCUSE ME??!!!!!

OK, first of all I don't believe NATO had anything to do with either Nicaraugua nor Iraq.....correct me if I am wrong.

Secondly, you have heard of the Soviets, have you not??? You know, those guys with the funny accents that took over a good part of eastern Europe, and killed around 20 million people under their control (google Stalin) and had several thousand nukes pointed at at us.........that is why NATO existed. Now, it is a question of its usefulness, but.....

The primary objective of the Afghanistan war was to prevent the Islamist terrorists from using that country as a home-free base in which to plan terror attacks on the west and train terrorists for that purpose. That has been an astounding success.........Everything else, as laudable as it may be, is secondary.

BTW, try not putting down your delusions as "common knowledge"....it is just silly.