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We cannot determine the legitimacy of wikileaks but the materials' selection reveals

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We have no way to determine whether WikiLeaks itself is genuine.

But we do have enough information in the nature of the leaks to reach some tentative conclusions.

The leaked material is almost certainly all genuine.

But it is highly selective, a crucial fact.

There is nothing terrible about America and its wars abroad, and any clear-thinking person knows perfectly well there are terrible tales to tell about wars abroad. That is the history of wars.

There is no dirt on Israel or Israeli-related matters.

Yet we know Israel is, realistically, today likely the world’s single greatest danger to international peace. It constantly practices assassinations and black operations, and almost every word coming from its foreign ministry is dishonest.

North Korea’s much-publicized attacks are almost insignificant compared to Israel’s attacks on innocent people in Southern Lebanon and Gaza and on the high seas.

Tons of American documents on Israel’s many insults, brutalities and non-cooperation must exist, but we see nothing.

There is tons of stuff about Iran, all of seeming to say that much of the world agrees Iran is a problem.

There are thousands of anecdotes by and about diplomats - all interesting, some fairly juicy, but none of them terribly damaging.

One must remember that an outfit like the U.S. State Department keeps countless millions of documents. There are unquestionably embarrassing opinions about anything you care to mention.

But there are far more consequential documents dealing with things like secret nuclear weapons and what happened to all the South African bombs, assassinations like that of Dr Kelly in Britain, and spying including the terrible case of Jonathon Pollard, the most compromising spy in American history and someone the Israeli government puts almost constant pressure on Washington to release, having made him a national hero with a holiday named for him.

One cannot help but think the leaks are serving Pentagon/Israeli interests.

And, of course, the classic technique for giving interest and believability to the material an agency does want to disseminate is to wrap it up in lots of other stuff that keeps people amused and fascinated.

WikiLeaks does not have to be aware of any of this. I don’t say for certain that they are not, but please remember the sensational case of the C.I.A. plant at the New York Times, Judith Miller. If the New York Times can be fooled – and they have been on numerous occasions – anyone can.

There have been many others. Robert Novak was used a number of times to disseminate material, as in the case of unmasked C.I. A. spy Valerie Plame. American journalism literally is saturated with such connections, some voluntary and malicious, some unknowing but still damaging.
 

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Are you trolling or spamming? :lol:
 

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Assange says U.S. forces must remember “shooting the Taliban is shooting the Afghan people.”
He’s not anti-war. He’s on the other side.
Assange published the names of Afghan human rights activists and others who have co-operated with the U.S. — giving out names of villages and GPS coordinates.
That’s not journalism. That’s not whistleblowing. That’s setting up “deadly revenge attacks,” says Reporters Without Borders.
Zabihullah Mujahid is grateful. He’s a Taliban spokesman who says “we know how to punish them.”
Assange published details about technology used to stop improvised explosive devices (IEDs) from being detonated. WikiLeaks calls roadside bombs a “rebel investment,” proudly pointing out for every dollar spent by the terrorists, the U.S. and Canada have to spend a thousand to defend against them. So Assange published those anti-IED details online.

Ezra Levant

Death to Assange. The quicker the better.

Those are our allies he is setting up for murder by the Taliban.....and OUR soldiers he is putting in increased jeopardy by releasing details of anti-IED technology.

I will be elated on the day I hear he gets a bullet through the head. So very richly deserved.....

And I am getting quite upset at the number of drooling, idiotic sumbag supporters of our enemies on this site.....and especially on the CBC...OMG that place is like Jihadist talk radio! I can not express my scorn for them in terms descriptive enough to do it justice.

Unbelieveable!

I'm gonna have the Big One if this keeps up.

We have sunk so low......
 

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2AYANb0P9F...relativism.jpg

Quote: Originally Posted by Bar Sinister
Alright, I'll bite. Can you name a single instance of a Canadian soldier who has been killed or injured due to Wikileaks?
Careful there! Colpy might put you on his list of people who should be assassinated.
Moral relativism??? HA! It's a WAR, pick a side......no never mind, you are already ON a side, as you are a Canadian. Assange is on the OTHER side. Death to Assange.

Bar, I can't name ANY Canadian soldier killed without looking it up, nor could the vast majority of Canadians..........but 95 of the 153 Canadian deaths have been from mines (IEDs)..........so look up the 95, and remember that Assange is helping to increase that number.

Death to Assange.

And the list is a long one.........but neither you nor Bar are anywhere close to the top. :)
 

gerryh

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how easy, it seems, for the war mongers, and those with a so obvious disregard for life, to call for the death of another human.
 

petros

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Stuck pigs tend to squeal when stuck. My advice...don't get stuck believing the pigs.
 

petros

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how easy, it seems, for the war mongers, and those with a so obvious disregard for life, to call for the death of another human.
Because it interfers with their reality.
 

gerryh

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Death to Assange.

And the list is a long one.........but neither you nor Bar are anywhere close to the top. :)


Shall we now start calling you taliban colpy. cause you have now stepped straight into their boots. Hows the fit?
 

gerryh

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He's more terrorist than any Taliban.

colpy is a true sociopath

Big time.


I see the yappy little dogs have thrown in their nonsensical tenth of a cent.


What Assange and wikileaks is doing is reprehensible at this time, but at the same time, comments from idiots like Flanagan concerning having Assange killed is just as reprehensible.
 

petros

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I see the yappy little dogs have thrown in their nonsensical tenth of a cent.


What Assange and wikileaks is doing is reprehensible at this time, but at the same time, comments from idiots like Flanagan concerning having Assange killed is just as reprehensible.
Want some creme kitty kitty?
 

Colpy

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Shall we now start calling you taliban colpy. cause you have now stepped straight into their boots. Hows the fit?

Naw.....I don't consider you worthy of death simply because you have a different religion........nor am I so afraid of women that I need to keep them running around dressed as tents, nor do I feel any need to throw acid in the face of schoolgirls.......

I am, however, willing to support violent acts in defense of western civilization, which has made most of these Jihadist and traitor-loving morons richer and more at liberty than any other system in the history of mankind. Unfortunately, it can't cure stupidity.

He's more terrorist than any Taliban.

colpy is a true sociopath

Two cases in point.

By the way, CUBert, sociopaths are lonely, antisocial guys that live in their Mommy's basement, believe that being a misanthrope demonstrates a superior level of intellectual development, and spend their time trolling on the net with inane comments of no depth, believing themselves to be above the drooling masses.......

Look in the mirror. :)
 

gerryh

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Naw.....I don't consider you worthy of death simply because you have a different religion........nor am I so afraid of women that I need to keep them running around dressed as tents, nor do I feel any need to throw acid in the face of schoolgirls.......

I am, however, willing to support violent acts in defense of western civilization, which has made most of these Jihadist and traitor-loving morons richer and more at liberty than any other system in the history of mankind. Unfortunately, it can't cure stupidity.


degrees of difference my good man, only degrees. Remember, there are only 180 of them from one end to the other. Doesn't take long before you are standing beside those that used to be opposite.
 

petros

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The mirror....
  1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
  2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
  3. Authoritarian
  4. Secretive
  5. Paranoid
  6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
  7. Conventional appearance
  8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
  9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
  10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
  11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
  12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
  13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
  14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
  15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
 

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Re: The rape case against Wikileaks' Julian Assange

I see the yappy little dogs have thrown in their nonsensical tenth of a cent.


What Assange and wikileaks is doing is reprehensible at this time, but at the same time, comments from idiots like Flanagan concerning having Assange killed is just as reprehensible.

good thing you've added some insightful comments to this thread, where would this thread be without them

By the way, CUBert, sociopaths are lonely, antisocial guys that live in their Mommy's basement, believe that being a misanthrope demonstrates a superior level of intellectual development, and spend their time trolling on the net with inane comments of no depth, believing themselves to be above the drooling masses.......

Look in the mirror. :)

what you described sounds like a weird breed of narcissistic personality mixed with social anxiety, not a sociopathic person.
 

gerryh

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good thing you've added some insightful comments to this thread, where would this thread be without them

Not my problem if you're too mentally deficient to be able to understand all that I have stated. Nor is it my responsibility to educate you, that would have been your teachers and your morally bankrupt parent/parents responsibility.
 

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Has anyone here seen Julian Assange???