Like I said before. Accountability, and like I said before it doesn't surprise to know there are gun owners who don't think that's important.
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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Like I said before. Accountability, and like I said before it doesn't surprise to know there are gun owners who don't think that's important.
There it is!
The cultural arrogance. Why am I not surprised??
Are you against accountability because all your knives are not registered? They are used in more homicides than guns.
Getting licensed is being accountable.....other than that, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Tracking the firearms of decent people is a complete waste of time...........why harass the people with the lowest crime rates?????
Not only that, the gun registry is so inaccurate it is not admissible in court.
And there are millions of firearms out there that are not, and never will be registered.....which makes the entire system a waste of time.
You don't need a license to own a knife.
When a gun is found in unlicensed hands it means two crimes have been committed. One by the owner and, unless it was stolen, one by the source. If it came into their possession by way of a licensed owner and not by theft, the previous owner should answer for it. Accountability.
When a gun is found in unlicensed hands it means two crimes have been committed. One by the owner and, unless it was stolen, one by the source. If it came into their possession by way of a licensed owner and not by theft, the previous owner should answer for it. Accountability.
First of all........why don't you need a license to own a knife? It is a dangerous weapon, used in homicide. We're all about safety and control here, aren't we?
Seriously, it is somewhat disingenuous, to say the least, to assert that because there is one control regimen, there must be another.....where does it all end?
And more to the point...... the registration system IS NOT ADMISSIBLE IN COURT!
Which means no one can be convicted on "evidence" taken from the system because it is so inaccurate.
So much for THAT idea. The registration system does not make anyone accountable for anything.
That argument misses the point. Registered ownership DOES provide a chain of ownership and a law abiding citizen should be more than willing to account for how a firearm left their possession. .
oh
about knife licenses
since you've already conceded that gun owners should be licensed maybe you should should tell me.
oh
about knife licenses
since you've already conceded that gun owners should be licensed maybe you should should tell me.
And considering knives are used in more homicides and other violent crimes in Canada, why aren't you advocating their registration, similar to the gun registry you are fond of?
Wrong.
A gun in unlicensed hands can have wound up there legally PRIOR to the registry being introduced. Its not a time machine to say that when my father bought a shotgun in 1979 that the store that owned it had to register it.
Like Colpy, I've repeated several times that I favour user licensing (based on training, certification and background checks, paid for by the recipient of the license) rather than the utilization of a flawed registration of every tool. Qualitatively it makes more sense to me that certifying (and monitoring) a number of people who are allowed to possess firearms would be more effective than trying to keep track of a higher number of firearms. It becomes less prone to errors in the system if a multiple owner does not or unable to register all their items (as per Colpy's example of a graduated system).
Wrong.
The registration system can not be shown to have cut down on homicides.........indeed the rate of firearms homicide rose steadily in the years after registration was "complete". Therefore there is no excuse for these onerous restrictions on the firearms owner, they are literally indefensible.
If the system is not dependable enough to be used as evidence in a court of law, it can not be used as a reliable source of a "chain of ownership"..............
Next they will be wanting to fire every weapon to create a database for the bullets. So much for collectibles. (some have tried)
It establishes a starting point. If you don't think the public deserves that, just say so.
Okay, I don't think the police need it, I don't think the public needs it, I think the only possible use of the registration system is for the mass confiscation of weapons.
We've had handgun registration since 1934, read the stats to see how much good it has done.
Doesn't the goverment have enough control over what we can or cannot do? Technology is quite advanced enough to trace a weapon to who ever used it eventually.
Why should there be? You can buy and sell any other piece of private property without filling out a bunch of forms including vehicles. I have both bought and sold machines worth many thousands of dollars without any paperwork.
Until a few years ago you didn't need a license to own a rifle either.
Okay, fine, a fellow who is deified by liberals once said, "the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation", well, that's where I also keep many of my firearms. The state has no business there, the liberals have to agree lest they be shown as being hypocrites. I can agree on registering firearms and licensing owners only if the firearms leave your house. Since licenses are already granted to those who show proficiency and are of good character to carry firearms for gathering food or use in other sporting shooting activities, it follows that licenses should also be extended to carrying concealed firearms for protection of self and those under their care. Firearms kept in the home are no business of the state or any one else, they are far less of a danger to the public than propane bbq tanks.
There is no reasonable argument that can disallow a person the means for defense of self in a free country. The aforementioned deified late PM was successful in denying us that right, damn him and all the liberals who follow in his ideology. Millions more lives have been lost under the guise of gun control than have ever been saved.
There is no reasonable argument that can disallow a person the means for defense of self in a free country. The aforementioned deified late PM was successful in denying us that right, damn him and all the liberals who follow in his ideology. Millions more lives have been lost under the guise of gun control than have ever been saved.
It has been said before and will be said again, gun control at some point in time will lead to confiscation and or taxation of firearms. There is no way anyone can guarantee that this will not happen. Plus in most cases private owners of firearms are far more qualified than law enforcement in the safe operation and handling of these weapons. A simple criminal and psychological check should be at the most all required to own a firearm.
No accoutability it is. Don't worry. I won't try to change anyone's mind. I was just asking.
On that note, if knives are so dangerous let's save a few bucks on ammo and teach our troops to get by on swords.
On that note, if knives are so dangerous let's save a few bucks on ammo and teach our troops to get by on swords.
I wonder how many anti gun advocates actually own guns......;-) and maybe some of them have even used one :lol:
The reason I took the article from the Huffington Post is so the ones on the left would believe it:smile:
Note that while The Huffington Post never mentioned it...... Sen. R.C. Soles was anti gun
R.C. Soles, North Carolina Pol Who Shot Intruder, Won't Run Again
The reason I took the article from the Huffington Post is so the ones on the left would believe it:smile:
Note that while The Huffington Post never mentioned it...... Sen. R.C. Soles was anti gun
Why is it those who are adamantly against gun control give sane men the willies? Just asking...
As my dear old late gun-toting Dad said once, after watching a news article on a violent home invasion...."You know, that didn't happen when everyone kept a loaded .30-30 over the door."
Do I give you the wiollies Spade???? (flutters eyelashes enticingly)
lol