Assistant Professor Goes on a Killing Spree

JLM

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We are not talking of who is satisfied and who isn't Cliffy. We are discussing here the economic prosperity. Acording to all indicators, India and China are very much third world countries.

Now, if you are arguing about intangibles, if you are claiming that Indians and Chinese are more satisfied and happier than Americans or Canadians, we have no way of checking that. But we are discussing economic prosperity here.

Hey looks like we are headed back to the argument of '09 vs '59 :smile:
 

JLM

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Now, why would I sell myself short, JLM? What is in it for me?

What's in it for you? A few things

1. Never finding yourself "painted into a corner"
2. Conducive to more credibility from others.
3. Makes you look good when you prove to be better than your word.
 

countryboy

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What's in it for you? A few things

1. Never finding yourself "painted into a corner"
2. Conducive to more credibility from others.
3. Makes you look good when you prove to be better than your word.

...4. Not having to work so hard at trying to look perfect
5. Learning new things by encouraging others to bring forth their viewpoints
6. Feeling like you did something worthwhile at the end of the day
 

JLM

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...4. Not having to work so hard at trying to look perfect
5. Learning new things by encouraging others to bring forth their viewpoints
6. Feeling like you did something worthwhile at the end of the day

For #5 to work you have to face up to the fact that perhaps there are people around who know something you don't. Some people find that tough to accept................:lol:
 

countryboy

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For #5 to work you have to face up to the fact that perhaps there are people around who know something you don't. Some people find that tough to accept................:lol:

Personally, I'm lucky there...I don't know sh!t from shinola about science, to name just one field, but the list is long...:-(
 

DaSleeper

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Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.


Edit: there must be a mirror in the user control panel:lol:
 

SirJosephPorter

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What's in it for you? A few things

1. Never finding yourself "painted into a corner"
2. Conducive to more credibility from others.
3. Makes you look good when you prove to be better than your word.

And why should I care about any of these things?
 

SirJosephPorter

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...4. Not having to work so hard at trying to look perfect

I don't do that anyway (work hard to look perfect), so it doesn't apply to me.

. 5. Learning new things by encouraging others to bring forth their viewpoints

I learn new things by reading columnists, not by listening to what posters have to say, especially not in forums like this. Every poster has an agenda, preconceived ideas. While I respect opinion of others, I don't necessarily take anything anybody says as the Gospel truth.

I learn new things by reading serious articles, not by reading blogs by posters.


6. Feeling like you did something worthwhile at the end of the day

Does one want to do something worthwhile at the end of the day? And anyway, taking what some poster says as Gospel truth, how is that doing something worthwhile at the end fo the day?
 

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Sorry JLM, but income is the only meaningful standard with whch to judge the economic prosperity of a country. GDP of India is less than a tenth that of USA, its population is more than three times that of USA.

So I guess the the Soviet Union was also an underdeveloped country; since there is no way of knowing what the average income was at that time it can only compared to what we know now, where, say, the average income in, oh, I dunno, Санкт Петербург for instance is around 10,000 Рублей / month, around $300. This, a country that held the balance of power worldwide for nearly two generations, a country that paid the pilot who shot down KAL 007 a princely sum
equivalant to USD$200, (the radar operators got double that), but I digress. This is a country that fielded a lot of scientists and made deep inroads in technology, some of which is still not mastered in this hemisphere.
 

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I don't do that anyway (work hard to look perfect), so it doesn't apply to me.



I learn new things by reading columnists, not by listening to what posters have to say, especially not in forums like this. Every poster has an agenda, preconceived ideas. While I respect opinion of others, I don't necessarily take anything anybody says as the Gospel truth.

I learn new things by reading serious articles, not by reading blogs by posters.




Does one want to do something worthwhile at the end of the day? And anyway, taking what some poster says as Gospel truth, how is that doing something worthwhile at the end fo the day?



...and anyone should take you seriously ... why?
 

bobnoorduyn

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Oh, and BTW, Санкт Петербург, (Sankt Peterburg) is a university and port city much like the one I live close to, also built on a swamp, or at least it sure seems to be at times.
 

SirJosephPorter

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So I guess the the Soviet Union was also an underdeveloped country; since there is no way of knowing what the average income was at that time it can only compared to what we know now, where, say, the average income in, oh, I dunno, Санкт Петербург for instance is around 10,000 Рублей / month, around $300. This, a country that held the balance of power worldwide for nearly two generations, a country that paid the pilot who shot down KAL 007 a princely sum
equivalant to USD$200, (the radar operators got double that), but I digress. This is a country that fielded a lot of scientists and made deep inroads in technology, some of which is still not mastered in this hemisphere.

Bob, you are confusing between a country being a developed country and a country having an international influence. The two are not necessarily the same.

As to Soviet Union, you are right; we don’t know how developed it really was during the cold war era. But it was able to compete effectively with USA. That does not mean that it was a developed country.

Communist countries were collectively referred to as the second world (developed countries were first world, developing countries third world), mainly because we just didn’t know how prosperous they were (because of iron curtain).

But don’t confuse world influence with economic prosperity. North Korea is a nuclear power; they clearly have world influence (any nuclear power, by definition does). Does that make North Korea a developed country?

India and China have world influence sheerly due to their size. There is a substantial middle class in both countries, the growth rate is very high, the countries are prospering economically. That doesn’t mean that they are developed countries, they are still very much developing counties. That is why their per capita income is so low, there are hundreds of million of people dirt poor in each country.

Indeed, World Vision and other charities are very active in India, feeding the poor, digging wells and giving the poor kids an education, which they otherwise wouldn’t get.
 
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SirJosephPorter

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I looked up the per capita income of Russia; it ranks 54 in the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

So if Russia is any indication, chances are that USSR was not really a very prosperous country. They were competing with USA at the cost of economic prosperity at home. If they had used up some of the rubles that they used in arms build up towards the betterment of their citizens, Russia would be a much richer, a much better country today.

Indeed, world influence, international power really does not have much to do with being a developed country; one may easily have one without the other. Thus, India, China are world powers, but are developing countries, poor countries.

On the other hand countries such as Luxemburg, Norway, Denmark are among the richest countries in the world with very high per capita income. But they have no world influence.
 

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This thread has diverged a long way from the original topic of a woman committing mayhem.

You're right there. "Assistant Professor Goes on a Killing Spree" doesn't begin to describe the relative wealth of Russia and the rest of the world or whatever the topic has morphed into.
 

DaSleeper

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You're right there. "Assistant Professor Goes on a Killing Spree" doesn't begin to describe the relative wealth of Russia and the rest of the world or whatever the topic has morphed into.
Sometimes when a discussion is starting to become embarrassing and nobody agrees with you, one just shifts to another subject......also moving the goal posts helps:lol:
 

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Speaking of the woman who went bonkers, it is apparent she was bonkers as far back as 1986 when she killed her brother in Braintree, Massachusetts.

With these killings this old case has come to the forefront.

On the day she killed her brother, actually within a few minutes of killing her brother she fired the shotgun through her bedroom door. Her mother and brother were in the house at the time. Her mother said she did not hear the first shotgun blast because their house was very well insulated. After putting a hole in her door she supposedly went down stairs to ask her brother how to load a shotgun. But instead she blasted a hole in his chest killing him. One Braintree Police officer said there was another shotgun hole in the ceiling that was ignored. Three blasts.

She then went to a Ford Dealership brandishing the shotgun and asking for a car to get away from an abusive husband, although she was not married at the time. The Car Salesman said he would get her a car and was showing her the models on the showroom floor while others at the dealership called the Police. She was apprehended there.

Her mother was a Massachusetts State Worker...a big shot. The Braintree Police Chief at the time stopped the investigation fairly quickly and District Atty James Delahunt refused to press charges.

Delahunt is now Democrat Congressman Delahunt representing Massachusetts in Washington.

The current Braintree Police Chief on reviewing the case says he does not want to say the word but... as he said... "the word coverup comes to mind."