So how, exactly, does this make them worse than the Liberals or Conservatives in Nova Scotia? Seems to me, that makes them exactly on par, at least as far as NS goes.
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So how, exactly, does this make them worse than the Liberals or Conservatives in Nova Scotia? Seems to me, that makes them exactly on par, at least as far as NS goes.
I don't hate anybody. I feel sorry for you.
Or you can get the hint that you are irrelevant and defeatist. You could, perhaps,
stop being defeatist and start doing somethings that make you relevant.
According to your profile, you are a small business owner. Obviously you are having a tough time if you need a job. Perhaps you should move your business out west.
I have spoken to some friends that live out in NS - and they are thrilled to have an NDP government. At the end of the day - it's their problem - not mine, so if they are happy, so be it.
The fact is that every now and then, it is good to change the government, and try something different - kind of like cleansing the palate. Alberta should try it sometime - there are capable people in every party, and good ideas from those people (just as there are a-holes, and useless twits in every party as well)
The fact is that every now and then, it is good to change the government, and try something different - kind of like cleansing the palate. Alberta should try it sometime - there are capable people in every party, and good ideas from those people (just as there are a-holes, and useless twits in every party as well)
when Alberta votes in a NDP government welfare will dramatically increase in that province because the oil companies will head to other parts of the country and leave Albertans high and dry
I think you are right in that every party has one or two good ideas and politics is kind of like your vegetable patch, it has to be turned over once in awhile to "aerate" things a bit. At the same time maybe N.D.P gov'ts should be ltd. to 2 years terms.
Ooooooooooh the more I think about that the less convinced I am. If the oil companies all head out, it seems to me the source of any welfare money will be gone- unless the rape seed and sugar beet industry can support big welfare rolls.
I'm inclined to agree with you but at the same time we have to watch we don't get swallowed up in the "cat on the hot stove syndrome". What I didn't say in my post was "limited to two year terms once every 50 years".
I am not suggesting a drastic shift from Conservative to NDP for Alberta. I certainly am not an NDP fan, or promoter.
I use the old axiom: Politicians are like diapers - they should be changed regularly, and for the same reason.
I use the old axiom: Politicians are like diapers - they should be changed regularly, and for the same reason.
The paranoia that they will leave Alberta is ridiculous. Oil companies will head out and go where exactly? Venezuela (where their assets will be stolen by the government?) Africa (where their employees will be kidnapped and held for ransom?) The Middle East (where they could be attacked by terrorists?) vs Alberta where the government is stable, there is no threat of nationalization and the population is relatively meek?
So long as they can make $1 per barrel of oil profit - they will be around.
There is lots of oil potential in the rest of the prairies and B.C. Especially off the west coast once we get rid of the silly moratorium on drilling that was imposed on us by Ottawa mainly to keep B.C. from becoming too independent.
Oh great! Let us destroy our ocean fisheries, our pristine coast all for a commodity that is destroying everything else on the planet. Time to stop oil production and develop sustainable alternatives. We don't need more oil, we need clean air and water. There is far more to life than making money for the sake of making money and mindless consumerism.
Does that mean eastern Canada/southern US...same IQ?
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Bang on Cliffy! People are so scared of a world without oil. I think they're just cowards. We survived for thousands of years without dirty oil we surely won't die without it. The world is not going to fall apart and anyone who thinks we would fall into chaos is being somewhat defeatist.
I have to argue with you slightly on this Cliff, Other parts of the world extract oil safely from the ocean, and in an era where they can put people on the moon there should be the technology to take oil out of the sea. But just to be on the safe side have the oil companies put up a huge damage deposit.
Obviously. My old business is in the process of shutting down and I will need money in between projects as it could take up to 6 months to get this new business going. I am no defeatist Cannuck. That's why I stay here, to make it a better place. It's difficult fighting against a population so old that they can't change their ways or a provincial government that caters to this demographic. I blame our governments here, and to a much lesser degree Toronto & Alberta, for the youth brain drain. Can't blame people for needing jobs. It will be at least another decade before our province rebuilds its infrastructure, diversifies our economy and is prosperous again. We have big plans for shipping ports and aquaculture not to mention renewable energy (mostly tidal power & wind turbines).
As for moving out west that will never happen. Been there done that. BC and SK were great, nice people too but I couldn't live in the prairies, too much dirt not enough woods, water or mountains. BC was gorgeous and I might consider that. If I were to move anywhere it would be Quebec or Newfoundland and I wouldn't rule out Yukon. Those three places in Canada or Europe (Portugal, Norway or Netherlands) or South America (Brazil or Chile). I like interesting places with lots of culture.
Welcome to the forum DichotoMe. Great to hear from another eastcoaster.
I'm a transplanted Newfoundlander myself, living the dream here in Alberta, missing my family back home, hoping one day to finish off my working life in NL and retire there eventually. I have nothing but respect for you and those like you, who bucked the trend of moving to the so-called 'richer' parts of the country. If you can eke out a living back home all the power to you. I know you won't, but don't buy into this 'defeatist' propoganda that sprung out of the west. That's just Harper, who supposedly represents us all, spouting off on a topic he knows nothing about. A lot of his minions buy into it though. It's part of the push to keep Atlantic Canada down so the labour force can be called upon when needed elsewhere. Danny 'Chavez' Williams is working hard to change that. But it won't happen until wages are on par with Alberta.
By the way, the latest deal for the southern Hibernia field has NL gaining a 10% stake in the project. This will bring $10B into the NL coffers and $3.5B for the rest of the country. Giving back is such a sweet feeling, especially in these difficult economic times.
And culture...yeah...I miss that too. Haven't danced a jig in a long time.
I hope NS has great success with your new government. A true defeatist attitude would be to condemn this new government before they have time to prove themselves.
I'm a transplanted Newfoundlander myself, living the dream here in Alberta, missing my family back home, hoping one day to finish off my working life in NL and retire there eventually. I have nothing but respect for you and those like you, who bucked the trend of moving to the so-called 'richer' parts of the country. If you can eke out a living back home all the power to you. I know you won't, but don't buy into this 'defeatist' propoganda that sprung out of the west. That's just Harper, who supposedly represents us all, spouting off on a topic he knows nothing about. A lot of his minions buy into it though. It's part of the push to keep Atlantic Canada down so the labour force can be called upon when needed elsewhere. Danny 'Chavez' Williams is working hard to change that. But it won't happen until wages are on par with Alberta.
By the way, the latest deal for the southern Hibernia field has NL gaining a 10% stake in the project. This will bring $10B into the NL coffers and $3.5B for the rest of the country. Giving back is such a sweet feeling, especially in these difficult economic times.
And culture...yeah...I miss that too. Haven't danced a jig in a long time.
I hope NS has great success with your new government. A true defeatist attitude would be to condemn this new government before they have time to prove themselves.
The oil leaves Canada, the oil does not employ enough Canadians, the oil is owned by Uncle Sam. We need a Canadian Energy Policy made in Canada. Either the resources flow east and west or we impose a solution on the wannabee Yankees. Fornicate the oil companies and the Albertans they road into town on.:lol: