Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations After Trayvon Martin Shooting

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If someone without a police badge was approaching me with or without a gun in
a manner that they were claiming I did anything, I would defend myself with all I
had. I have in fact defended myself. I don't give a damn who it is, if they have no
official authority I would assume defence is mandatory.
I have no scars and no serious wounds and that's because I never gave morons
like Zimmerman a chance to do anything. In a younger day, had I been attacked
by him yes I would have gone for the weapon and used it on him as in IE defence.
No not to kill him, but I would make it hurt. If you have ever been approached by a
fool with a large knife, it surprising what you may or may not do. The person in
question got hurt and I didn't get stabbed.
Its fine to defend someone like Zimmerman but be on the receiving end and some
may have a different point of view.

I wouldn't shoot or stab them where it just hurts.... if someone approaches me with a firearm, knife or other weapon, their intent, as far as I'm concerned, is to take my life or seriously injure me and therefore, their life is forfeit. No fancy crap, no being a hero, the fastest way I can take them down and remove the threat, that will be the course of action I take, regardless if I just disable them and pin their face into the ground until police arrive, or they end up dead. Either way, everybody has a right to defend themselves, to preserve their own well-bring and the well being of those around them they care about.

Wounding someone or seriously hurting them will most likely only make them more aggressive as they switch to survival mode & perhaps start to react like a cornered animal..... they created the situation, my concern for their well being does not exist.

As it goes for this case/topic.... I won't pick any specific side on this, as there is not enough factual information to base an opinion on, as it's mostly a "He Said / She Said" situation.

He could have been defending himself and just got caught up with shooting off his mouth at the wrong time about black people..... or he could have started the whole thing just because he had a grudge & the kid was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Either way, it's up to the evidence & courts to figure out now..... as more information comes out, I'm sure I'll figure out which side of the argument I'm on.
 

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If someone without a police badge was approaching me with or without a gun in
a manner that they were claiming I did anything, I would defend myself with all I
had. I have in fact defended myself. I don't give a damn who it is, if they have no
official authority I would assume defence is mandatory.


What's interesting is that Zimmerman's defence is exactly what Martin may have done, and Zimmerman used as justification to kill him.

-A approaches V, who he feels is 'up to no good', or whatever
-V sees this as a threat, being approached by a random stranger at night, and under the existing law, is empowered to defend himself
-A sees this as an attack, and under the existing law, is empowered to defend himself
-A shoots V, on the assumption that V was going to shoot him.

Nice scenario, basically it means that any encounter between two people who feel threatened or empowered can easily escalate to a fatal encounter, and both parties will be in the right.
 

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The highly liberal-slanted press did a very piss-poor job vetting this situation.

Not as bad they continue to do with (the lack of) Barry's background and history though.

But this is what the masses are teat fed and the dribblings work their way into the global 'news' as well.
 

DaSleeper

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The highly liberal-slanted press did a very piss-poor job vetting this situation.

Not as bad they continue to do with (the lack of) Barry's background and history though.

But this is what the masses are teat fed and the dribblings work their way into the global 'news' as well.

And the gratuitous assumptions of the left leaning members of this forum go even further than the press
eg: (If somebody came at me with a gun) with no indication that the gun came into play before they were on the ground...:roll:
It's obvious that the press doesn't have to do much to spur their illogical fantasies:lol:
 

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I still wonder what the outcome might have been had Martin been a white guy from out of the hood....

My guess is we'd never have heard about it

You're right.

If Zimmerman had been an African-American you never would have heard of it. As a forum member pointed out, that same weekend six African-Americans (including a six year old girl) were killed in Chicago by other African-Americans. Where was the outrage?

Also, if the Hispanic assailant had a more Latino name you never would have heard of it.
 

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This was reported back on April 3rd but the MSM is just now taking notice.


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And here's the 'fresh' news report now. ;-)


Zimmerman complained about Sanford police in 2011

News from The Associated Press
 

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Not good for the defense...

Witnesses in Zimmerman case change stories
Evidence released last week in the second-degree-murder case against George Zimmerman shows four key witnesses made major changes in what they say they saw and heard the night he fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla.

Three changed their stories in ways that may damage Zimmerman. A fourth abandoned her initial story, that she saw one person chasing another. Now, she says, she saw a single figure running.

They were re-interviewed in mid-March, after Sanford police handed the case off to State Attorney Norm Wolfinger. The case changed hands again when Florida Gov. Rick Scott passed it on to a special prosecutor. Zimmerman was arrested April 11 on a charge of second-degree murder.
 

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Not good for the defense...

Witnesses in Zimmerman case change stories
Evidence released last week in the second-degree-murder case against George Zimmerman shows four key witnesses made major changes in what they say they saw and heard the night he fatally shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla.

Three changed their stories in ways that may damage Zimmerman. A fourth abandoned her initial story, that she saw one person chasing another. Now, she says, she saw a single figure running.

They were re-interviewed in mid-March, after Sanford police handed the case off to State Attorney Norm Wolfinger. The case changed hands again when Florida Gov. Rick Scott passed it on to a special prosecutor. Zimmerman was arrested April 11 on a charge of second-degree murder.

Their secondary statements will be given short shrift by the defence- Their 1st statements will be what is critical- witnesses subjected to the parade of newspaper -inuendo - unproven alleagtions - tabloid jounalism - can and do alter a persons perceptions and recollections of events weeks later when asked what they recall.
 

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Their secondary statements will be given short shrift by the defence-

That's fine as far as the prosecution is concerned. If their account can't be trusted, it's still fewer witnesses the defense can rely on for their side of the story. Eye witnesses don't make for very good evidence anyway.
 

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That's fine as far as the prosecution is concerned. If their account can't be trusted, it's still fewer witnesses the defense can rely on for their side of the story. Eye witnesses don't make for very good evidence anyway.

The verdict is already in. Guilty or else. Amazing how all four witnesses changed their story. One witness said the bigger one was on top during the fight and changed it to Zimmerman. Her reason for changing was she saw the pics of Martin on TV and decided he must have been the smaller one on the bottom.

She must have seen these that were blasted all over the TV.


 

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That's fine as far as the prosecution is concerned. If their account can't be trusted, it's still fewer witnesses the defense can rely on for their side of the story. Eye witnesses don't make for very good evidence anyway.

It appears their statements were in Zimmerman's favor. Then they changed. The defense will have a field day with that - He has one of the best lawyers in the State. No grass growing under this guys feet