Willing to Testify: If slick Dick is put on trial
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Just MHO, but we ain't never going to see any justice done here. Toooooooo much money and high priced bottom dwellers.
U No Hoo shall suck it up once again.
U No Hoo shall suck it up once again.
I'm with RCS, in that I never supported the Iraqi invasion, regardless of who said what and when. I've always supported (and still do) the Afghani mission and will support any other mission that targets Al-Qaeda and those that would offer them sanctuary to resume planning and training for more acts of terror.
This is why I think and have thought the UN was and is an abyssmal failure. The reason there was an invasion was that the politics of the UN security council meant that the US would not see any resolution to the issues they brought before it. France refused to allow for the possibility of military action against Saddam Hussien's Iraq, thus forcing the US to either ignore the UN or be content with a status quo that they could not accept. Yes it was about oil: Saddam Hussein's deals with French and German oil companies were the reason they were against military action. Yes, the United States is to blame for invading Iraq but France is to blame for ensuring the UN would not be an effective platform for the United States to have their issues addressed... and that soon after 9/11 the US was not about to allow a door to be slammed in their face.
I do believe that if military action had been conditionally approved by the UNSC, further weapons inspections would have taken place and the invasion would never have occurred: the threat alone would have sent the message to Saddam that he was at the edge of the precipice.
This is why I think and have thought the UN was and is an abyssmal failure. The reason there was an invasion was that the politics of the UN security council meant that the US would not see any resolution to the issues they brought before it. France refused to allow for the possibility of military action against Saddam Hussien's Iraq, thus forcing the US to either ignore the UN or be content with a status quo that they could not accept. Yes it was about oil: Saddam Hussein's deals with French and German oil companies were the reason they were against military action. Yes, the United States is to blame for invading Iraq but France is to blame for ensuring the UN would not be an effective platform for the United States to have their issues addressed... and that soon after 9/11 the US was not about to allow a door to be slammed in their face.
I do believe that if military action had been conditionally approved by the UNSC, further weapons inspections would have taken place and the invasion would never have occurred: the threat alone would have sent the message to Saddam that he was at the edge of the precipice.
I note that people say time and again i hope the US learns from this - We all got sucked in - My change point was when they took Bagdad and you could see the looting - As that US general stated to the Senate - 3- 400 k troops would be required. Many countries got sucked into that fiasco.
The US could have bombed the shiite out of Iraq with their carriers and taken the oil producing fields in the Kurdish area - landed troops and air power - Sat back, bombed and waited for regime change. Then let the Kurds have a free state - Guaranteed by the US - Screwed Iraq, Iran & Syria.
No no no... that is not what he says and that is not what Condi said. Powell himself said he was in agreement with Bush and supported the war after. Is he lying? Same with Condi Rice.
Face it.
It sure doesn't sound like it. Hmmm... why are you giving Condi and Powell a pass? It is puzzling to me. Of all the people in the Administration these two get a pass by you. I wonder.... hmmm.
I see. So your subscribing to 911 being an inside job and America being the sole architect of all that is bad. Read the op and the response.
It seems that US foreign policy is the stock answer for Radical Muslims to kill innocents.
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Nope sorry. Never supported the invasion of Iraq. Saw it as an exploitation of 911.
Me and my kind? Are you attacking my ethnicity, my religion> What do you mean "You and your kind?"
I have no respect for stupidity or ignorance and while silly people such as yourself pound that Jihad drum as some kind of Liberation Movement I know it is only poorly masked intolerance. The killing of gays, the murder of women, the mutialation of little girls, the state endorsed sexist knuckle dragging of a religion based on a pretend god is what is fueling the violence.
Iran has reportedly killed hundred of its own citizens that we know of. Syria in the last weeks has killed over 2000.
They don't need help from the United States to exact revenge on Muslims and Christians. They are content to kill the innocents within their own borders while pathetic robots like you spin their propaganda. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I had my way we would pull back and let all these neanderthals kill each other. Sadly, they want to spread the word by the sword. Like the Beslan school massacre.
Or in Somalia where young kids are recruited to the call of Allah.
Smoking is the least of this Lads problems.
That's the problem with you and your type Ocean Breeze. You either justify the atrocities by blaming everything on the West with your propaganda message or in eassansirs case make veiled threats of God taking revenge on anyone who posts a counter to your idiotic posts.
You should seek help.
Both parties are responsible for horrific atrocities. THAT is a fact. Just because You take sides.........and can't see the whole picture is no excuse for poster bashing.
Yes........each ot the places you mention have done and contine to do horrific things. But let's try and keep a balanced view ......because the US has created its own atrocities as well.
NONE of the parties are without blood on their hands and conscience.
Amazing how some resort to poster bashing and "you should seek help " when they CANNOT argue for their position in a constructive and postive way.
If you disagree with my comments.........NO PROBLEM........but present your opposing arguments in a rational way without lowering yourself to bullying. Unless of course you cannot present a cogent stance. IF that is the case......then say so and we can move on.
thank you.
It seems that US foreign policy is the stock answer for Radical Muslims to kill innocents"
to keep things in balance: It is not like the "west" hasn't killed a large number of innocents.
How many people have the terrorists killed in the past decade???
How many people has the US killed in the past decade as it travels around with its mobile war machine.
KILLING IS KILLING . Different motives.......but the end result is the same..What makes one KILLER any better than the OTHER. Buth have destructive motives behind them. both have a vested interest in maintaining the cycle of violence (be it for profit or power )
to keep things in balance: It is not like the "west" hasn't killed a large number of innocents.
How many people have the terrorists killed in the past decade???
How many people has the US killed in the past decade as it travels around with its mobile war machine.
KILLING IS KILLING . Different motives.......but the end result is the same..What makes one KILLER any better than the OTHER. Buth have destructive motives behind them. both have a vested interest in maintaining the cycle of violence (be it for profit or power )
Oh, is that why you do it, you couldn't present a reasoned or rational argument to me, so you resorted to bullying?
No no, thank you for explaining why you bully people and call them names.
Positive how? Would you like me to agree with your lunatic assumptions that 911 was not perpetrated by radical Islam.
I do and I have. You seem intent on presenting an argument that the United States is moving a war machine around the world creating all the worlds problems and well that's just bullsh!t. Now called upon your bullsh!t you are changing your tune ever so slightly.
Don't thank me, I think your a brainwashed moron.
"The total of America's military bases in other people's countries in 2005, according to official sources, was 737. Reflecting massive deployments to Iraq and the pursuit of President Bush's strategy of preemptive war, the trend line for numbers of overseas bases continues to go up.
Interestingly enough, the thirty-eight large and medium-sized American facilities spread around the globe in 2005 - mostly air and naval bases for our bombers and fleets - almost exactly equals Britain's thirty-six naval bases and army garrisons at its imperial zenith in 1898. The Roman Empire at its height in 117 AD required thirty-seven major bases to police its realm from Britannia to Egypt, from Hispania to Armenia. Perhaps the optimum number of major citadels and fortresses for an imperialist aspiring to dominate the world is somewhere between thirty-five and forty."
Full report: 737 U.S. Military Bases = Global Empire
Interestingly enough, the thirty-eight large and medium-sized American facilities spread around the globe in 2005 - mostly air and naval bases for our bombers and fleets - almost exactly equals Britain's thirty-six naval bases and army garrisons at its imperial zenith in 1898. The Roman Empire at its height in 117 AD required thirty-seven major bases to police its realm from Britannia to Egypt, from Hispania to Armenia. Perhaps the optimum number of major citadels and fortresses for an imperialist aspiring to dominate the world is somewhere between thirty-five and forty."
Full report: 737 U.S. Military Bases = Global Empire
Thanks for the info about how manyUS military bases are scattered world wide. Would you happen to know how many bases other countries have world wide???For eg: How many Military bases does China ( an equally militant nation) have world wide/
thanks.
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I'm sure they also paid brutal dictators to keep the peasants under control too. Imperialism ain't what it used to be.
But that is not why I posted that. there is enough information out there to support the position of US detractors, just like there is information to support US supporters. It is counter productive to call people name or idiots just because they support an opposite view to your own. I don't usually get involved in threads that end up with the usual suspects ganging up and bashing certain posters. I find it repugnant and detrimental to human development. If someone is really that out to lunch, the best policy would be to ignore them. They will soon get tired of talking to themselves.
I just Googled US military bases world wide a few minutes ago. I had no idea before.
........idle question: IF Dickie boy ends up in court. ( dream along)......but IF........would folks on here like to be in the jury box and work at a verdict for him????
Would that be like your non thinking kneejerk reactions to my posts?
I'd just like to see a fair trial. Where no one anything like you, has anything to do with it.