Willing to Testify: If slick Dick is put on trial

[talloola]

if anyone is going to question cheney in a court for anything they better hurry, he doesn't look like
he is 'long' for this world.

watched the interview with him the other day, he is fading.

 

[Cliffy]

if anyone is going to question cheney in a court for anything they better hurry, he doesn't look like
he is 'long' for this world.

watched the interview with him the other day, he is fading.

Eanassir must be wetting his pants, re: Cheney getting his comeuppance from god for all his nasty deeds.

I doubt too many people will mourn the passing of Doctor Strangelove.

 

[damngrumpy]

Going back and putting the past on trial in this case is a waste of time. We could of course go
further, we could put the Kennedy's on trail for the betrayal at the Bay of Pigs in Cuba,
Maybe we could put Churchill and Lord Mont Batten for the Dieppe Raid?
Nixon could go on trial for his war in Vietnam and then of course Lyndon Johnson for the
Gulf of Tonkin episode.
While I agree Bush, Dick and Rumsfeld were engaged in shady dealings to bring about a war
in Iraq, it is hardly the stuff of a full trial especially at a time when people want job creation for
others besides Lawyers. We all know the conspiracy people want to blame these people for
the twin towers, the war in Iraq and some claim for attempting to change the weather with some
big experiment in Alaska. But please put you reality hat on for just a moment and pretend
that you contemplate reality. There is going to be no trial for a number of reasons. It is a fact
that neither side wants a trial or we would investigate everything again from Watergate to
Gettysburg.
We have people around the world wanting to put others on trial for war crimes and crimes against
humanity for some really ugly stuff. I personally want crimes against Humanity trials for those who
clutter up my TV with Entertainment Tonight on more than one channel.
I think the networks should be put on trial for all those damn Infomercials that run on late night and
the endless religious programs on radio,
Some are saying this makes no sense and you are right, it also does not make sense to think America
is going to put Rumsfeld, or Dick or W on trial at least not while the Secret Service is still guarding
them. Give me a break.

 

[talloola]

Going back and putting the past on trial in this case is a waste of time. We could of course go
further, we could put the Kennedy's on trail for the betrayal at the Bay of Pigs in Cuba,
Maybe we could put Churchill and Lord Mont Batten for the Dieppe Raid?
Nixon could go on trial for his war in Vietnam and then of course Lyndon Johnson for the
Gulf of Tonkin episode.
While I agree Bush, Dick and Rumsfeld were engaged in shady dealings to bring about a war
in Iraq, it is hardly the stuff of a full trial especially at a time when people want job creation for
others besides Lawyers. We all know the conspiracy people want to blame these people for
the twin towers, the war in Iraq and some claim for attempting to change the weather with some
big experiment in Alaska. But please put you reality hat on for just a moment and pretend
that you contemplate reality. There is going to be no trial for a number of reasons. It is a fact
that neither side wants a trial or we would investigate everything again from Watergate to
Gettysburg.
We have people around the world wanting to put others on trial for war crimes and crimes against
humanity for some really ugly stuff. I personally want crimes against Humanity trials for those who
clutter up my TV with Entertainment Tonight on more than one channel.
I think the networks should be put on trial for all those damn Infomercials that run on late night and
the endless religious programs on radio,
Some are saying this makes no sense and you are right, it also does not make sense to think America
is going to put Rumsfeld, or Dick or W on trial at least not while the Secret Service is still guarding
them. Give me a break.

EXACTLY, it will never happen, and I don't want to see it happen, it would be years and years with no
proper conclusion, and it would be all to pad the bank accounts of the lawyers.

We can all remember how that stupid iraq war started, and those three , one being a dunderhead, the other
was the planner, and the third a smart ass in his pentagon press conferences.

Knowing is enough for me, and I can see how the american people are suffering now, as the country is broke.

Maybe the american people can learn from that war, and react differently next time.

Just move on, don't forget, put it to bed, and don't waste time sifting thru stuff, look ahead, make
it better, learn from the past.

Don't elect another bush, or another republican for that matter.

 

[petros]

While I agree Bush, Dick and Rumsfeld were engaged in shady dealings to bring about a war
in Iraq, it is hardly the stuff of a full trial especially at a time when people want job creation for
others besides Lawyers.

The man who would love to spill his guts is Powell. They really screwed him over. Time will tell.

 

[damngrumpy]

Petros I forgot about Powell Yes he would like to set the record straight but the media
will someday set that record straight. Dick has a new book out and he takes a run at
Powell. That is how these things get going someone writes a book when they should
just keep their mouth shut. I suppose there is no need to worry unless Dick wants to
take them hunting eh?

 

[petros]

Powell quit over Iran. Khatami was ready to fling the doors open but that ruined the "Axis of Evil" angle. That was the final straw.

 

[talloola]

The man who would love to spill his guts is Powell. They really screwed him over. Time will tell.

He's far too classy to lower himself to their level, its too bad he had to take a back seat to those
low class liars, and when he had to make that speech, he purposely made the guy who gave him the
'incorrect' info sit right behind him, so that he would be right in the picture if that information
was found to be 'wrong', which it was.

Powell was doubtful, but it was his duty to deliver the speech.

He would have been a great addition to this present administration, but of course, (wrong party).

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Not sure the americans will learn from this. That has not been their strong suit.(learning from past mistakes and messes. they just slide over them as if they didn't exist )

It is very concerning that folks don't want true justice

For a trial.

it would be an example to the world that the US is regaining some ethical and legal footings again

the Iraq war is an international crimc. Technically and legally........ so there is a responsibility there to demonstrate that the US understands it cannot take such liberties on the world stage....

the US would begin to gain respect again........

It would demonstrate that the US CAN learn from its mistakes and make sure that the criminals are brought to proper justice.

It would be a true catharsis for the nation..........as the toxicity of that regime lingers. and needs to be purged.

It is the responsible thing to do

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the cons. : given how trials are handled in the US these days ........high profile ones..........this would turn into another circus.

the people don't want to know the truth .....and would rather remain in their ostrich status.

Cheney is living on borrowed time. ( IF the US has some big funeral for him and the usual trappings.......it will just confirm how unprincipled it has become and that it really does support terrorists.......as long as they are american leaders

Cost.

Powell lis the only one with a degree of credibility. (from that bunch)

 

[Bar Sinister]

It will most certainly be a very interesting investigation if the US ever gets around to it. Unfortunately, the US political right is very likely to label it a witch hunt rather than a search for justice.

 

[talloola]

And I notice condoleeza rice couldn't get away from them fast enough, disappeared very quickly.

Cheney wasn't very kind when asked about her in his interview, they didn't see eye to eye.

I'll bet it didn't take more than one term for her to see what she had become part of, similar to
powell, only she hadn't had the time to build the good reputation he had, but I do believe she is
a good, extremely intelligent person, who was 'talked' into working for bush. He needed someone
close by to correct his spelling, and tell him what many things really meant, and teach him about
foreign affairs, which he knew nothing about, didn't even know where many places in the world were.

Then he would run over to cheney's office to get instructions for the day.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

And I notice condoleeza rice couldn't get away from them fast enough, disappeared very quickly.

Cheney wasn't very kind when asked about her in his interview, they didn't see eye to eye.

I'll bet it didn't take more than one term for her to see what she had become part of, similar to
powell, only she hadn't had the time to build the good reputation he had, but I do believe she is
a good, extremely intelligent person, who was 'talked' into working for bush. He needed someone
close by to correct his spelling, and tell him what many things really meant, and teach him about
foreign affairs, which he knew nothing about, didn't even know where many places in the world were.

Then he would run over to cheney's office to get instructions for the day.

LOL.........well even she could not succeed as look at what she was working with. I too think that condi was a true asset (good kind , not political ) ......very bright , very articulate , very shrewd but not in an obvious way, and yet a dignified lady .Highly composed and a sophisticated ambassador on the international stage.

Would not mind seeing her consider a run for the top job. All one has to do is examine what is running and what comes out of their mouths .........she would be a shoe in.

 

[talloola]

LOL.........well even she could not succeed as look at what she was working with. I too think that condi was a true asset (good kind , not political ) ......very bright , very articulate , very shrewd but not in an obvious way, and yet a dignified lady .Highly composed and a sophisticated ambassador on the international stage.

Would not mind seeing her consider a run for the top job. All one has to do is examine what is running and what comes out of their mouths .........she would be a shoe in.

Her first love is football, and she always said that she wanted to become the commissioner of the NFL, haven't
seen her show up there though, but maybe one day.

After that nightmare she went thru with bush/cheney, I don't think she will come anywhere near washington again.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

He's far too classy to lower himself to their level, its too bad he had to take a back seat to those
low class liars, and when he had to make that speech, he purposely made the guy who gave him the
'incorrect' info sit right behind him, so that he would be right in the picture if that information
was found to be 'wrong', which it was.

Powell was doubtful, but it was his duty to deliver the speech.

He would have been a great addition to this present administration, but of course, (wrong party).

He was one of the casualties of that regime. Notice how the QUALTY staff fell off one by one leaving the non quality bozos to ruin the nation. the repercussions of their actions will be playing out for decades.. It is unavoidable.

Her first love is football, and she always said that she wanted to become the commissioner of the NFL, haven't
seen her show up there though, but maybe one day.

After that nightmare she went thru with bush/cheney, I don't think she will come anywhere near washington again.

You are probably right and can't see how anyone can blame her. Now she would have stories to tell..........if she decided to "go public"

can't see her doing that. She is just too refined

 

[talloola]

He was one of the casualties of that regime. Notice how the QUALTY staff fell off one by one leaving the non quality bozos to ruin the nation. the repercussions of their actions will be playing out for decades.. It is unavoidable.

But in the eyes of many/most, the quality people are stained as well, and have to live with that reputation.
Powell did have a chance to run for the leadership of the party, but he and his wife
decided 'not' to do that, she was very afraid of his safety, its too bad, he would
have been a very classy president, and would have brought the republican party back
to respectability.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

;-)

But in the eyes of many/most, the quality people are stained as well, and have to live with that reputation.
Powell did have a chance to run for the leadership of the party, but he and his wife
decided 'not' to do that, she was very afraid of his safety, its too bad, he would
have been a very classy president, and would have brought the republican party back
to respectability.

indeed. and yes.......agree that all those associated with that regime are tainted.

Maybe the best one can expect is who is the least tainted.??;-) Realistically........given the revelations of some of the politicians over the past year alone..........being tainted seems to be the standard as opposed to the exception.;-)

Agree as well about Powell. From my perspective......he would have made an intelligent, measured , calm and rational leader with a strong military knowledge base (critical in US pollitics ) but with a compassionate component that makes him people oriented.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

in a way, affirmative. In fact one could say most wars are "cooked up" But what has changed since that era to now is that it is the US that is doing the cooking.

which leader in history , recent or distant had three concurrent wars going on with probable plans for more?? Three countries involved

..........all the while the finances running in the red with DANGER ALERT flashing signs all around. America can't afford the basic things but has megabucks for its war machine. Does that make any rational sense?? ( to anyone outside those benefitting from these interventions..........and don't kid yourself the target countries and their populations are not the primary beneficiaries.. The US will hold it over their heads .......that it was the US that "freed " them , creating a feeling of obligation and reducing their self worth along the way.

It seems that US foreign policy is the stock answer for Radical Muslims to kill innocents.




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that 9-11 has been used as an excuse to create so many war zone disasters as the US kills its way around the planet . Have you even swallowed the koolaide. All they have to do is play the 911 card and they can get away with anything. People like you follow along like the non thinking robots that you have become.

Nope sorry. Never supported the invasion of Iraq. Saw it as an exploitation of 911.

it has been TEN years and you and your kind is still milking it for whatever sick reasons you have. Do you have NO respect for the lives that were lost?? Do you have no dignity?? If you think that acting like a militant terrorist looking for revenge is reasonable......than you are no better than those you so despise.

Me and my kind? Are you attacking my ethnicity, my religion> What do you mean "You and your kind?"

I have no respect for stupidity or ignorance and while silly people such as yourself pound that Jihad drum as some kind of Liberation Movement I know it is only poorly masked intolerance. The killing of gays, the murder of women, the mutialation of little girls, the state endorsed sexist knuckle dragging of a religion based on a pretend god is what is fueling the violence.

the US has slaughtered so many now ......it is irrational. and yet its hunger for more blood is not satisfied. It never will be satisfied as revenge never achieves anything.

Iran has reportedly killed hundred of its own citizens that we know of. Syria in the last weeks has killed over 2000.

They don't need help from the United States to exact revenge on Muslims and Christians. They are content to kill the innocents within their own borders while pathetic robots like you spin their propaganda. I've said it before and I'll say it again. If I had my way we would pull back and let all these neanderthals kill each other. Sadly, they want to spread the word by the sword. Like the Beslan school massacre.

Or in Somalia where young kids are recruited to the call of Allah.

Smoking is the least of this Lads problems.

That's the problem with you and your type Ocean Breeze. You either justify the atrocities by blaming everything on the West with your propaganda message or in eassansirs case make veiled threats of God taking revenge on anyone who posts a counter to your idiotic posts.

You should seek help.

 

[EagleSmack]

Condi was right there with them as was Powell. They both supported the war in Iraq

In a 2008 interview on CNN, Powell reiterated his support for the 2003 decision to invade Iraq in the context of his endorsement of Barack Obama, stating: "My role has been very, very straightforward. I wanted to avoid a war. The president [Bush] agreed with me. We tried to do that. We couldn't get it through the U.N. and when the president made the decision, I supported that decision. And I've never blinked from that. I've never said I didn't support a decision to go to war."


Rice was a proponent of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. After Iraq delivered its declaration of weapons of mass destruction to the United Nations on December 8, 2002, Rice wrote an editorial for The New York Times entitled "Why We Know Iraq Is Lying".


Thanks for stopping by!

 

[petros]

Secretary of State Colin Powell said he sees a “new attitude” in Iran that
could lead to a restoration of ties between the United States and the Islamic
republic that President Bush has called part of an “axis of evil."





“There are things happening, and therefore we should keep open the
possibility of dialogue at an appropriate point in the future,” Powell was
quoted as saying in Tuesday’s Washington Post.



Iranian leaders have agreed to permit unannounced inspections of the
country’s nuclear energy program and made overtures to moderate Arab
governments. They also accepted an offer of U.S. humanitarian aid after last
week’s devastating magnitude-6.6 earthquake.





Powell lauds 'new attitude'
“All of those things taken
together show, it seems to me, a new attitude in Iran in dealing with these
issues — not one of total, open generosity, Powell said. “But they realize that
the world is watching and the world is prepared to take action.

Good thing Bush & Cheney nixed any Powell/Khatami diplomacy and willingness to open the borders for trade and nuke inspections.

 

[talloola]

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Or in Somalia where young kids are recruited to the call of Allah.

Smoking is the least of this Lads problems.

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very true, many do not even realize how those countries treat their own people, they are so wrapped up
in their hate for the u.s., they are blind to others.
A citizen exchange program should be put in place for those types to live in those countries for a few
years, to bring some balance into their lives.

Can't you just see them running to hide, so they don't have to be part of the exchange. lol

Condi was right there with them as was Powell. They both supported the war in Iraq

In a 2008 interview on CNN, Powell reiterated his support for the 2003 decision to invade Iraq in the context of his endorsement of Barack Obama, stating: "My role has been very, very straightforward. I wanted to avoid a war. The president [Bush] agreed with me. We tried to do that. We couldn't get it through the U.N. and when the president made the decision, I supported that decision. And I've never blinked from that. I've never said I didn't support a decision to go to war."


Rice was a proponent of the 2003 invasion of Iraq. After Iraq delivered its declaration of weapons of mass destruction to the United Nations on December 8, 2002, Rice wrote an editorial for The New York Times entitled "Why We Know Iraq Is Lying".


Thanks for stopping by!

that was their job, their responsibility to their president and party, but powell was obviously hesitant,
but yes, they both stepped up and did their jobs, the only other thing they could have done at that time,
was 'resign', and i'm sure both of them would love to take it all back now.

Neither one of them made the 'big' 'ugly' decisions, but supported their boss, or I should say bosses,
as the real boss was playing the roll of vice-president.