Whose death deserves respect?

CDNBear

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The answer, no one's.

It's all perspective.

I honour Soldiers, I don't honour freaks. But Gh differs. He believes MJ deserves some respect. Farrah got it in spades. To the point he was banned for a very minor outburst. One that shouldn't even have hit the radar.

Some of you cry babies just suck dick and live, just so I can make fun of you.
 

L Gilbert

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No worries on my part Anna. I used it as an example of a double standard, not to point a finger at Les.

Hey, when are you going to get your own user id? :smile:
Hi. :smile: I don't really know if I want to hang here. I read a few posts by various people and although most seem to be nice people, there are a few who seem to have no self-respect let alone respect for anyone else. I make a habit of avoiding those sorts of people's spaces. I couldn't really help myself when I ranted a bit in that other thread, but that stream fellow riled me. How he can use language like he did against sweet and good people like my daughter and others and still call himself faithful to Christianity is unfathomable. If he finds people like my daughter offensive, he has misfiring synaptical activity.
 

karrie

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Hi. :smile: I don't really know if I want to hang here. I read a few posts by various people and although most seem to be nice people, there are a few who seem to have no self-respect let alone respect for anyone else. I make a habit of avoiding those sorts of people's spaces. I couldn't really help myself when I ranted a bit in that other thread, but that stream fellow riled me. How he can use language like he did against sweet and good people like my daughter and others and still call himself faithful to Christianity is unfathomable. If he finds people like my daughter offensive, he has misfiring synaptical activity.

I find myself sticking around because it is more honest than the real world. In reality, that sort of person probably works with your husband, or even your daughter. Probably runs your local grocery, teaches at your local school. They're just not as loud, or as obvious, in the real world. I stick around to hear what they really truly think, and to tell them what I really truly think. But if arguing isn't something you enjoy, then it's not a good place to be. :lol:
 

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I enjoy a good discussion or debate, but that sort of person does not discuss nor debate. Their modus operandi is to let their emotions override their reason. I can see why they might become addicted to forum life, though. It is probably the only release they have for inhibited emotion. Sad. People should just let it out and then let it go. Takes maybe 5 minutes then it's gone and reason comes back. :D Carrying all that bitterness and hate is baggage people aren't equiped to handle.
Holy smokes. I sure am preachy today. Time to get veggies ready and cooking.
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Really! I don't know most of the Hollywood celebrities. I have an issue with respect for the dead and dying. It doesn't have to be from cancer. Comment on anything that suits you. I just hope that you can do it with respect in regard to someone who has just died. Is it that hard to show respect? No wonder the world is upside down and backwards.

I'm glad that I have your permission to comment. I was worried for a while.

Now I'm going to hide in the basement, wearing black, mourning the death of a random average citizen. That should balance out the universe, after the sainthood bestowed upon celebrities this week.
 

petros

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Now I'm going to hide in the basement, wearing black, mourning the death of a random average citizen. That should balance out the universe, after the sainthood bestowed upon celebrities this week.
I'm sure the movie magicians in HollyWeird have no shortage of pretty assistants to saw in half or gangsta rapper to immortalize and cash in on after they have a crack induced psychotic episode and shoot themselves or someone else.

Commercial time for the OJ trial was astronomically priced and many people and business made a lot of money.

Junkies made Sirs like Doyle or exalted like Poe or raving certified drunks like Hemingway being called geniuses.

Was it their works that made them famous or their lifestyles?

Which is more entertaining? The roles and entertainer plays or their psychological misfortune of fame and new wealth?
 

petros

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Farrah was hot. We all watched Charlie's Angels because of the gals. It certainly wasn't the theme of the show or quality of writing or Bosley.

By the way. John Forsythe was Charlie.
 

Unforgiven

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lolll Unf - I haven't been around a whole lot lately, and to be honest I think I was the last one on the planet to hear about MJ's death. I won't go into my personal thoughts on the man, it's irrelevent here.

Come on girlfriend, dish! ;-)

If I left the impression that I'm personally offended by anything I've read here, let me correct that immediately. I'm not impressed by celebrity but I do think that the issue of respect should be held to a firmer standard under certain circumstances - regardless of whose death it is.

Ya that's kinda what I replied to. Glad you aren't as bothered about it as I felt you might be. Still I feel there is a lot of space between respect irl and some minimum standard that should be adhered to on the Internet.

If anything, you could accuse me of finding it difficult to keep up with what I perceive to be devolving standards of decency. But I promise not let it ruin my summer. ;)

It's not a race, and I do agree that there are times that it's the lowest common denominator that is celebrated. Let me temper that with the practice of walking the perimeter to see the limits of ourselves and the possibilities of extending that, also having supplied the best of us as a species. A double edge sword. I think it's impossible to trim one end without affecting the other.

Savvy?
 

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Still I feel there is a lot of space between respect irl and some minimum standard that should be adhered to on the Internet.

I don't think the standard online should be any different than irl.




It's not a race...

..it just seems that way? ;-)


...and I do agree that there are times that it's the lowest common denominator that is celebrated. Let me temper that with the practice of walking the perimeter to see the limits of ourselves and the possibilities of extending that, also having supplied the best of us as a species. A double edge sword. I think it's impossible to trim one end without affecting the other.

Savvy?

Savvy. Not sure I agree though - whether it's the lowest denominator or the highest aspiration we're headed towards, both directions first require a choice. I'd rather see us perpetually choosing to stretch the perimeter of our limitations rather than careening back and forth from there to the abyss of lost human decency.
 

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Is it just me or have the standards of decency on this forum fallen down from where they once were. Do we accept bad language because it is in a signature? I'm not a prude by any stretch but bad language has it's place but needs to be rare if it is to have any meaning. Gerryh's potty mouth didn't start with the death of MJ. Foul language was normal for gerryh. I for one, would like to see the standards raised a little.
 

Unforgiven

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I don't think the standard online should be any different than irl.

Well it is, sorry but that's the way the cookie crumbles? No one can enforce morality on the Internet because of the very nature of the Internet. We're all about free speech anyway and so that means free to make a fool out of one's self in the eyes of another, yes?

As well, as it turns out it is very much like it is irl because of that only irl you stand to get a punch in the nose rather than flamed.

Savvy. Not sure I agree though - whether it's the lowest denominator or the highest aspiration we're headed towards, both directions first require a choice. I'd rather see us perpetually choosing to stretch the perimeter of our limitations rather than careening back and forth from there to the abyss of lost human decency.

How do you understand happy without knowing sad? Sometimes funny is offensive to some viewers. Opera, Symphony, Frisky Dingo. Only you know where to draw the line. But that line only works for you. This way, you are never expected to cross any lines you don't choose to cross.
 

karrie

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Is it just me or have the standards of decency on this forum fallen down from where they once were. Do we accept bad language because it is in a signature? I'm not a prude by any stretch but bad language has it's place but needs to be rare if it is to have any meaning. Gerryh's potty mouth didn't start with the death of MJ. Foul language was normal for gerryh. I for one, would like to see the standards raised a little.

well juan, gerry's not new. So have standards dropped? No, I don't really think so.

If someone wants to push for an improvement on what they see as an increase in foul language, there are a variety of ways to do it. But singling out one poster? And getting him banned over a thread where he was trying to make a point rather than just being senselessly foul? THAT seems like a lowering of our forum standards to me.
 

#juan

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well juan, gerry's not new. So have standards dropped? No, I don't really think so.

If someone wants to push for an improvement on what they see as an increase in foul language, there are a variety of ways to do it. But singling out one poster? And getting him banned over a thread where he was trying to make a point rather than just being senselessly foul? THAT seems like a lowering of our forum standards to me.

That of course, is an opinion that I don't share. I didn't single him out. His banning has been discussed ad nausium. Like I said, bad language is only effective if it is not over-used.. That is what lowers the standards.
 

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Some one once told me what is hard and pink when it goes in and soft and sticky when it comes out.

I was so offended until this person told me it was bubble gum.

This is what happens when you don’t think about it.

Then the person told me what does a man do standing up, a woman does sitting down and a dog does on three legs.

Now this was really offensive to me until I heard the answer, which is shaking hands.

Think about it.

 

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I find it hilarious when people talk about standards and decency where Gerry is concerned, then turn a blind eye to others. They aren't fooling anybody. They don't like Gerry and are using the language as an excuse.

As far as forums versus real life, there is nothing I have said on here that I would not say to an individual that was standing in front of me. I get the feeling Gerry is much the same way. The same can not be said of his detractors.
 

karrie

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I find it hilarious when people talk about standards and decency where Gerry is concerned, then turn a blind eye to others. They aren't fooling anybody. They don't like Gerry and are using the language as an excuse.

As far as forums versus real life, there is nothing I have said on here that I would not say to an individual that was standing in front of me. I get the feeling Gerry is much the same way. The same can not be said of his detractors.

That's exactly what I feel. Why is one disparaging remark about a celeb reported, but not another? It has nothing to do with how foul he is. It has everything to do with not being on the right side of the arguments the majority of times.