Wheat board monopoly to end

[Cannuck]

Speak for yourself. I'd rather have lower taxes since we rarely buy bread and I don't like paying for someone elses food.

I'm sure you don't. This is, however, still a democracy.

 

[petros]

Speak for yourself. I'd rather have lower taxes since we rarely buy bread and I don't like paying for someone elses food.

Do you eat animals or buy products from a labour force that does eat bread? How are you paying for someone else? Please explain.

I'm sure you don't. This is, however, still a democracy.

Is it a democracy when 62% voted no against getting rid of the single desk?

 

[captain morgan]

I'm not fooling myself. I am well aware that everything is ultimately paid for by the taxpayer. The reality though is that Canadians would rather have higher taxes and a $2 loaf of bread than lower taxes and a $5 loaf of bread. We can argue all day whether that is ultimately a good thing but that is what people want.

You have applied arbitrary costs to that loaf of bread.. Let me do the same.... What if the taxes were eliminated and that loaf of bread cost $2.50 as opposed to higher taxes and a $2.00 loaf?

Betcha wouldn't be so upset with a free market without gvt intervention.

 

[taxslave]

I'm sure you don't. This is, however, still a democracy.

That is not democracy, that is mob rule.

 

[JLM]

..and since we have a cheap food policy that means that those things are relatively cheap as well.

You might want to check out a grocery store, obviously been awhile since you were in one.

 

[CDNBear]

Is it a democracy when 62% voted no against getting rid of the single desk?

Ignoring the fact that being forced to sell to one source, is undemocratic, aside. The vote was a yes or no. No option for a choice.

Add choice and try again.

 

[petros]

That is not democracy, that is mob rule.

What is it called when democracy is side-stepped?

 

[captain morgan]

Loconotion! Stupid ideas powered by steam.

Well, I suppose that you are an expert on that...

Carry-on

 

[petros]

Ignoring the fact that being forced to sell to one source, is undemocratic, aside. The vote was a yes or no. No option for a choice.

Add choice and try again.

We don't sell to one ****ing source.

 

[CDNBear]

what is it called when democracy is side-stepped?

CWB?

We don't sell to one ****ing source.

The CWB isn't one source?

 

[captain morgan]

The CWB isn't one source?

Maybe there are 2 different guys that operate the CWB wheat desk... That counts as 2 sources.

 

[Cannuck]

You have applied arbitrary costs to that loaf of bread.. Let me do the same.... What if the taxes were eliminated and that loaf of bread cost $2.50 as opposed to higher taxes and a $2.00 loaf?

Betcha wouldn't be so upset with a free market without gvt intervention.

You have applied arbitrary costs to government intervention. There is no question that our system produces low cost subsidized food.

Ron in Regina posted (I think it was on this thread) about how the elevators in Saskatchewan were removed and fewer mega elevators have been built causing farmers to haul with larger and larger vehicles. This is partially the caused of the highways in the province (according to R in R) to deteriorate. How much damage in dollar value has this caused? The farmers aren't paying the bill. The government is not fixing the roads and tacking it onto a loaf of bread or sending the bill to the elevators. If we are going to look at the true cost of subsidies we have to look at everything.

 

[petros]

We've made our choice freely and it's to keep the CWB. Apparently it's Ritz and the CPC who are ignoring our free choice.

 

[Cannuck]

You might want to check out a grocery store, obviously been awhile since you were in one.

I do the shopping for my family. If you think food is expensive now I'm sure you wouldn't want to pay the real value. Being a senior, you probably don't pay much in tax so the idea that you would pay less tax in return for more expensive food isn't much of a benefit to you.

 

[CDNBear]

We've made our choice freely and it's to keep the CWB. Apparently it's Ritz and the CPC who are ignoring our free choice.

How?

The CWB will still exist.

And those farmers that aren't into your undemocratic practices, can sell to whomever they wish.

Stop blocking other people from having a choice.

Nice edit by the way.

 

[petros]

It exists for another 4 years. Then what? **** you and your freedom of choice?

 

[JLM]

I do the shopping for my family. If you think food is expensive now I'm sure you wouldn't want to pay the real value. Being a senior, you probably don't pay much in tax so the idea that you would pay less tax in return for more expensive food isn't much of a benefit to you.

So do I and I think I can safely say food prices have doubled in 7 years. VanIsle would probably have a better idea than either of us as she was in the industry.

 

[CDNBear]

It exists for another 4 years. Then what? **** you and your freedom of choice?

You have four years to form a pool of your own.

There's nothing stopping you. Maybe you should start by contacting the NFU.

 

[petros]

We already have one, It's called the CWB and we freely chose it but who is stopping our freedom of choice?

 

[Cannuck]

So do I and I think I can safely say food prices have doubled in 7 years. VanIsle would probably have a better idea than either of us as she was in the industry.

...and they would be higher still if you were to pay the actual value.