Wheat board monopoly to end

petros

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This is how it has worked for logs since forever. If it is cut it is NOT a raw log. I don't export raw logs. It is not all that simple. Most of the raw log exports come from large private lands and some more specialized logs or parts of them from crown land. There are two main reasons for raw log exports. Cost of lumber production in B.C. is the main one and includes high wages, taxes by all levels of governments and the high cost of compliance with local bylaws and environmental laws. Second is that many countries do not build as we do and our mills do not cut what they want easily. Especially in second growth. I
Why don't you export loaves of bread instead of wheat?
I'm still not clear on why we export crude oil instead of refined products either. Seams to me we are missing out on a huge job creation project.
Can I farm Crown land and sell the products on the open market?
 

CDNBear

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Lots of steam. When you riun out of steam out come the jaundiced graphics.
Don't confuse a lack of patience for stupidity, with my ability to keep going.

So I guess we won't be hearing from you on any topic you have no direct experience with in the future?
 

Cannuck

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Context is everything pumpkin. Trying to expand the parameters to try and make yourself look right, is simply weak.

I haven't expanded the parameters. We have artificial price fixing in Canada. It benefits (and is supported by) the overwhelming majority of Canadian. Your initial question "Since when has artificial price fixing been in the consumers favour?" has been answered. I understand you don't like the answer because it kind of shoots holes in some of your arguments but you just need to deal with it and move on.

On certain foods, mainly dairy and poultry, the rest is priced pretty close to our prices.

..and since we have a cheap food policy that means that those things are relatively cheap as well.
 

petros

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I can farm Crown land? Really? So why aren't they in grain production instead of having cattle graze for two months a year?
 

petros

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Give it a shot and let me know how well you did on soil that can't be used for grain..

What do you know about commercial steam generation operations?.. How dare you comment on something you have no direct experience in... Boiling a kettle for your afternoon tea and cucumber sammies don't cut it.
Ask bear. He brought up steam.
 

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I haven't expanded the parameters. We have artificial price fixing in Canada. It benefits (and is supported by) the overwhelming majority of Canadian. Your initial question "Since when has artificial price fixing been in the consumers favour?" has been answered. I understand you don't like the answer because it kind of shoots holes in some of your arguments but you just need to deal with it and move on.

..and since we have a cheap food policy that means that those things are relatively cheap as well.

Artificial price fixing has not been the big consumer boon that you are suggesting, certainly not for the wheat farmers or all of those family farms that went (and are still going) tits-up.

Further, you're only fooling yourself if you think that a front-end benefit isn't offset by a back-end cost (read: higher taxes to subsidize the cheap-food-policy bribe).
 

petros

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Is that the best you can do? First you've helped show how non-pooled selling works and the obvious price gouging now you bring up steam as a deflection. You're not doing so good today.
 

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Further, you're only fooling yourself if you think that a front-end benefit isn't offset by a back-end cost (read: higher taxes to subsidize the cheap-food-policy bribe).

I'm not fooling myself. I am well aware that everything is ultimately paid for by the taxpayer. The reality though is that Canadians would rather have higher taxes and a $2 loaf of bread than lower taxes and a $5 loaf of bread. We can argue all day whether that is ultimately a good thing but that is what people want.
 

taxslave

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I'm not fooling myself. I am well aware that everything is ultimately paid for by the taxpayer. The reality though is that Canadians would rather have higher taxes and a $2 loaf of bread than lower taxes and a $5 loaf of bread. We can argue all day whether that is ultimately a good thing but that is what people want.

Speak for yourself. I'd rather have lower taxes since we rarely buy bread and I don't like paying for someone elses food.