What is going on south of 49?
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There is no comparison, none, nada, nil. But hey, don't let that stop you from being obtuse about the truth of kids working on the family farm.
I give up, petros..........this guy has his own agenda and neither truth nor facts will sway him. I'm outa here.........got work to do. :smile:
Part of the problem with the new "gimme" generation is beeing coddled while growing up instead of learning the value of work at home.
I was lucky. I had the best of both worlds. We lived in suburbia and had a farm in the Eastern Townships that we spent weekends and holidays on. I learned to work hard and enjoy what the other half got to have. Working on the farm came in real handy when I moved to the bush.
You REALLY don't have a clue, do you. I'll lay odds though that when the corporations take over all the family farms and finally have their monopoly on food production, you'll be one of the first to bitch and complain about the prices at Safeway.
Is ensuring my kids pick up after themselves, help in the yard, and help out around the house abuse?
Does the US have 4H?
Some of my most major personal growth during childhood centred around raising cattle and helping out on the farm. Auctions were a treat, and when it was our 4H club's show and auction, it was doubly so.
I can agree to a certain degree about needing to draw a line... I knew too many young men missing fingers, arms, legs, due to farm accidents... but I don't think prohibiting children from learning a business is any kind of answer. Because why single out farms? Why not prevent Tommy from being allowed to work on cars if his dad's a mechanic? Why not disallow Suzie from baking if that's her mom's trade? I see no reason to single out farming while still allowing kids to do shop class or home-ec or trades based schooling like the welding programs or cosmetology programs that run in some high schools.
Some of my most major personal growth during childhood centred around raising cattle and helping out on the farm. Auctions were a treat, and when it was our 4H club's show and auction, it was doubly so.
I can agree to a certain degree about needing to draw a line... I knew too many young men missing fingers, arms, legs, due to farm accidents... but I don't think prohibiting children from learning a business is any kind of answer. Because why single out farms? Why not prevent Tommy from being allowed to work on cars if his dad's a mechanic? Why not disallow Suzie from baking if that's her mom's trade? I see no reason to single out farming while still allowing kids to do shop class or home-ec or trades based schooling like the welding programs or cosmetology programs that run in some high schools.
Really? Children under the age of 16 comprise 20% of all farm fatalities...That's not really so low 'as to be virtually non-existant.'
http://www.hicahs.colostate.edu/Documents/Factsheets/childrenonthefarm.pdf
Screw statistics....one's obviously never lived in a farming community if they haven't seen the evidence of farm injuries.
Probably not. Unless there was wood to split or stack. A more likely punishment for not helping with the chores would be a lack of a place at the table come meal time.
I started logging and working in the family sawmill when I was about 10. Thats when I was big enough to control the machines. And no citiot would have been able to keep me away from it. I could run the sawmill when I was 13 as well as fall a tree without getting hurt. My son would load a truck with an excavator when he was 6. Took him long enough for us to have a beer but he got it done.
So what can your average city kid do at 13? play video games and hang out at the mall? Boring.
UPDATE: Obama flips on farm chores for children...
Under pressure from farming advocates in rural communities, and following a report by The Daily Caller, the Obama administration withdrew a proposed rule Thursday that would have applied child labor laws to family farms.
Critics complained that the regulation would have drastically changed the extent to which children could work on farms owned by family members. The U.S. Department of Labor cited public outcry as the reason for withdrawing the rule.
“The decision to withdraw this rule — including provisions to define the ‘parental exemption’ — was made in response to thousands of comments expressing concerns about the effect of the proposed rules on small family-owned farms,” the Department said in a press release Thursday evening. “To be clear, this regulation will not be pursued for the duration of the Obama administration.”
Read more on the flip floppery: Children | Farm Labor | Regulations | Withdrawal | The Daily Caller
Under pressure from farming advocates in rural communities, and following a report by The Daily Caller, the Obama administration withdrew a proposed rule Thursday that would have applied child labor laws to family farms.
Critics complained that the regulation would have drastically changed the extent to which children could work on farms owned by family members. The U.S. Department of Labor cited public outcry as the reason for withdrawing the rule.
“The decision to withdraw this rule — including provisions to define the ‘parental exemption’ — was made in response to thousands of comments expressing concerns about the effect of the proposed rules on small family-owned farms,” the Department said in a press release Thursday evening. “To be clear, this regulation will not be pursued for the duration of the Obama administration.”
Read more on the flip floppery: Children | Farm Labor | Regulations | Withdrawal | The Daily Caller
Nah, let's not make kids do anything. Then they can get that really funny looks on their faces when they leave home and are faced with real work and learn the value of that work. That should be downright hilarious.
You want your kids to be safe doing farmwork? I'd suggest following these guidlelines:
http://www.nagcat.org/nagcat/default.aspx?page=nagcat_guidelines_posters
We have those posted in our community centers around here. Seems to work well.
You want your kids to be safe doing farmwork? I'd suggest following these guidlelines:
http://www.nagcat.org/nagcat/default.aspx?page=nagcat_guidelines_posters
We have those posted in our community centers around here. Seems to work well.
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The bigger the family, the bigger the farm and kids who live on farms have to pull their own weight by doing chores for room and board and bragging rights cheap labour at it's best.