The stock pile of explosives that are left after a large military leaves a theater? If you will notice, all the soldiers killed are from IEDs. Few are killed with actuall military weapons used as they were intended.
What are we doing in Afghanistan?
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The stock pile of explosives that are left after a large military leaves a theater? If you will notice, all the soldiers killed are from IEDs. Few are killed with actuall military weapons used as they were intended.
Russia in no way was fighting another army. In the initial stages that occurred, they very quickly crushed the army on the field (as did America) and resorted to Guerrilla warfare.
The amount of weapons the American's supplied is also often overstated. Most weapons, as they do now, still came from China.
And the Taliban are very much so being supplied with Weapons.
And thankfully we have Iran on our side against the Taliban, few people seem to recall amid this talks of "Stability" that when the Taliban invaded and occupied Afghanistan they began committing genocide against ethnic and religious groups, espeically Shia.
This is why Iran had to be talked out of Invading in the late 90's.
I think we should have encouraged them to invade, would have solved all our problems.
I'm sorry, but your post has literally no connection with reality. at first, the Aghans were fighting the Russian bear with World War One type SMLE No. 1 Mk III .303 British bolt action rifles. Eventually they did get aid, and lots of it, from the USA and others, but even at the first, the people rose to fight in vast numbers against the Soviets and their puppets in the Afghan Army and gov't. "By the end of 1980, the 360,000 soldiers strong Afghan Army were greatly outnumbered by the rebels."
Soviet war in Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Do you honestly believe there are 360,000 Taliban??????
In addition, the Afghan people fled the country by the million during Soviet occupation and the civil war....five million to Pakistan and Iran alone........
About one million fled the US invasion, but since the fall of the Taliban gov't 4.5 million have returned to Afghanistan.........
That's voting with your feet. And NATO is doing well.....
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BTW, arms are being supplied to the Taliban by Iran......and much of the Pakistani Secret Service is very sympathetic......as well, money flows in from radical Islamic groups.....and you can buy any weapon in the arms bazaars of Pakistan. The Taliban do not lack arms.
That is hilarious.
Improvised Explosive Device..........do you know what that is??? It is a mine.....but wait!
Didn't the goody-goody lefty wackos ban mines?
So it can't be a mine! It has to be a IED!
These explosions are huge..........and the amount of explosive compound used is relatively small.....this is reasonably hi-tech stuff........brought to the Taliban by...???
Come on, there is no comparison of what Iran can provide in a hidden manner, with what Americans and Pakistan did provide in the open during Russian invasion. As far as outrage and rebellion against coalition, it is now exactly the same as it was against Russians and have no doubt, it will get worse with time, and not better.
I repeat my prediction: Afghan people will kick all invaders out and Karzai will be hanged in exactly the same manner as Najibulla (unless Americans brings Karzai with them).
An IED is a copper projectile powered by TNT (compared to gunpowder). A mine will go in many directions, the copper goes in one direction only, that is why they are so deadly. The Discovery Channel even shows how to make one, it is anything but hitech.
It has to be a IED!
These explosions are huge..........and the amount of explosive compound used is relatively small.....this is reasonably hi-tech stuff........brought to the Taliban by...???
The Americans of course. It's a course for every would be terrorists, oops I meant patriot taught by the CIA
That aside, isn't it comforting for all those arm chair military strategists to have predicted the war in Afghnaistan has been won and is over. Now the troops can come home..... um, maybe
Afghanistan could get 30,000 new U.S. troops
Estimate from top U.S. military officer is largest ever publicly suggested
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28326200/displaymode/1176/rstry/28326855/
Inside Afghanistan
updated 2 hours, 42 minutes ago
KABUL, Afghanistan - The top U.S. military officer said Saturday that the Pentagon could double the number of American forces in Afghanistan by next summer to 60,000 — the largest estimate of potential reinforcements ever publicly suggested.
Didn't the goody-goody lefty wackos ban mines?
Guess too many kids were getting their limbs blown off. Wait, maybe I'm wrong. Don't the people who lay mines, go back and remove them once the conflict is over?
Not likely. It's alll about the cost and money being the God of all good neocons and Republicans, it's cheaper to buy a kid crutch
Actually removing mines is real cheap if you know where you laid them, and you won the conflict.
And no, its actually alot cheaper to just drive a flail over the area. From a military point of view it makes a damn lot of sense because those mines are all potential weapons you are just giving the enemy. Its the same reason the us burns alot of its small arms with thermite rather than pay to ship them back.
And no, its actually alot cheaper to just drive a flail over the area. From a military point of view it makes a damn lot of sense because those mines are all potential weapons you are just giving the enemy. Its the same reason the us burns alot of its small arms with thermite rather than pay to ship them back.
Actually removing mines is real cheap if you know where you laid them, and you won the conflict
there the critical phrase...
Mines are incredibly easy to make...........any idiot can do it, as the Taliban are showing. That makes banning them a little ridiculous, especially when the major users don't sign on.
The USA was developing mines that detonated themselves after a set period of time......self-destructing, so no "surprizes" were left behind.
even so, what irritates me here is not the ban so much, but the Orwellian attempt to show the ban worked by simply calling mines something else.
I bet claymore mines are now called "high Speed ball-bearing dispensers":roll:
The USA was developing mines that detonated themselves after a set period of time......self-destructing, so no "surprizes" were left behind.
Was is the operative word there. the effort didn't work very well. No sure way to tell if the sef detonated (or deactivated) and the deactivation was prohibitively expensive... so we get back to the crutch
Yeah smart guy. A mine can be an IED but an IED isn't a mine.
The Taliban didn't do a fly over and cover a few miles of road with cluster mines. IEDs are used in a single event situation.
I see a difference.
Zzarch is 100% correct on this and anyone who says that the Taliban fought against the Soviets in the Soviet-Afghan War has no clue on what the Taliban is or what their origin is. The Taliban came about years later during the Afghan Civil War, most were too young to fight during the Soviet Invasion and were created in the madras in Pakistan from young boys fleeing Afghanistan.
But even with the facts in front of them there are still folks in here that will insist that the US supported the Taliban in their fight against the Soviets when the fact of the matter is that the Taliban wasn't even around at the time.
Never even heard of them until this post. That is how much they are used in today's military.
Aren't cluster munitions a similar color to the food aid packages that the UN has distributed by air in several occassions? These blow when picked up and they just scatter them on top of the ground rather than burying them 1by1.
This mine has been widely used by various countries, so uncleared minefields containing M14s do exist. Additionally, several copies of the design have been manufactured locally by countries such as India.
the USA basically gives them away to tin pot dictators as they are cheap and don't have the massive destructive firepower of the mines the US uses now to maim kids worldwide
