Venezuela? What’s up with that?

Ron in Regina

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Where's the regime change?
Who was in charge of Venezuela a month ago? Who’s in charge of Venezuela today?
I can see this being both a regime change and not a regime change, depending on the perspective. It’s a weird situation.
According to Trump, the US would "run" Venezuela until there is a "safe, proper and judicious transition". Trump went on to say that the US and US companies would seize Venezuelan oil and sell it to other countries.🤔
The same party aka regime.
Current sitting president was the vice president of the "regime" so how could there have been "regime change"?
Ah… so both were controlled by Trump then? That’s interesting all by itself, seeing as he’s the one calling the shots as opposed to the current sitting Venezuelan president.
Venezuela controlled its own affairs with its own politicians two weeks ago. Now Trump decides what happens. Trump decides who they do business with or not. Trump controls the money, etc…

If it’s not a regime change in definition, it sure is in aroma.
The head of the army , police chief and mayor are all the same as well .
Trump/America invading the country and now calling the shots, that’s different.😁
1768257308928.jpegIt is a weird situation. I could probably argue that the regime change hasn’t changed also…& that it also has.
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Venezuela controlled its own affairs with its own politicians two weeks ago. Now Trump decides what happens. Trump decides who they do business with or not. Trump controls the money, etc…

If it’s not a regime change in definition, it sure is in aroma.
It was a bloodless decapitation. No regime change.

Zionists took out Hamas leadership but was it a regime change?
 

Ron in Regina

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It was a bloodless decapitation. No regime change.

Zionists took out Hamas leadership but was it a regime change?
Bloodless? Anyway, lots of News stories out about Trump & Cuba now, since Trump (not the ‘still & current’ regime in Venezuela) cut off all oil from Venezuela to Cuba…that they “have to” make a deal or Else (!!) without saying what the deal is about. What “deal” does Trump want from Cuba?
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Ron in Regina

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Depends on which report you read. Nobody is talking who isn't a notorious serial liar.
Lots of news stories about the demand & rejection (of any deal forced by Trump) of Trumps “deal” without any details of what deal Trump wants.

I can (as can we all) speculate as to what that is, from a nation about 100 miles from Mar-a-Lago…but…
 

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Ron in Regina

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Was Maduro (the "head" of the regime) killed or the 75 Cubans were the head of Venezuela that was decapitated?
So it’s bloodless as long as Maduro himself didn’t bleed?

So if Iran’s current leader deposed without being hung from a streetlight or otherwise disposed of, then that’s a bloodless regime change?

If Ukraine’s current president is deposed without being….bloodied(?)….then the Russian special military whatever would have been a bloodless regime change?
 

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So it’s bloodless as long as Maduro himself didn’t bleed?

So if Iran’s current leader deposed without being hung from a streetlight or otherwise disposed of, then that’s a bloodless regime change?

If Ukraine’s current president is deposed without being….bloodied(?)….then the Russian special military whatever would have been a bloodless regime change?
Decapitation.

Remove the head.

He's not dead. It was an option.
 

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Ahhhh…so if Zelenskyy or Khamenei come out of this with their heads still on their shoulders, but not in control of their countries…then these were options too? Bloodless options even?
"Leadership decapitation" in a strategic context means eliminating a group's key leaders (through killing, capture, or both) as a counterterrorism or military tactic to disrupt, weaken, or destroy the organization, but research shows its effectiveness varies, often failing to cause collapse and sometimes leading to increased violence or radicalization, especially in resilient, networked groups.
 

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Venezuela controlled its own affairs with its own politicians two weeks ago. Now Trump decides what happens. Trump decides who they do business with or not. Trump controls the money, etc…

If it’s not a regime change in definition, it sure is in aroma.
I'm wondering what is going to happen with the President who was actually elected & then exiled. Shouldn't he be installed until another election is called? Just askin....
 

Ron in Regina

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I'm wondering what is going to happen with the President who was actually elected & then exiled. Shouldn't he be installed until another election is called? Just askin....
Well, he took the place of a she, & Trump vetoed the she…& their party so he…is sidelined?

WASHINGTON ‒ Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado said she presented President Donald Trump her Nobel Peace Prize medal during their Jan. 15 meeting at the White House, an extraordinary gesture to try to earn Trump's backing.

Machado, speaking to reporters after the meeting ended, said she gave Trump her Nobel Peace Prize medal, which Trump has long coveted, "as a recognition for his unique commitment with our freedom." She did not say whether Trump accepted the medal.

The meeting was held as Machado is seeking Trump's approval to have a role in the Venezuelan government following the United States' Jan. 3 attack on Venezuela and capture of the country's president, Nicolás Maduro. Trump has instead embraced Delcy Rodríguez, Maduro's vice president, as the next leader, praising her cooperation as the United States begins to sell Venezuelan oil.
Anywho, Trump took a sixth oil tanker now.
(YouTube & Everything is so f**ked up that Trump has Jon Stewart defending... an oil company?!)
(So who’s running Venezuela after this bloodless coup that isn’t a regime change?)

Machado said she told Trump how the French general Marquis de Lafayette 200 years ago presented Venezuelan military officer Simón Bolívar a medal with President George Washington's face on it. Bolivar kept the medal for the rest of his life.

"It was given by General Lafayette as a sign of the brotherhood between the people of the United States and the people of Venezuela in their fight for freedom against tyranny," Machado said. "And 200 years (later), the people of Bolivar are giving back to their heir of Washington a medal, in this case, a medal of the Nobel Peace Prize."
The 2025 Nobel Peace Prize award that Trump wanted soooo badly instead went to the Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado, who was barred from running for president by her nation’s courts. Machado acknowledged Trump in her acceptance of the honor, saying she appreciated his support of Venezuelan democratic reform…& then a few months later Trump (& America I guess) invaded Venezuela.
Trump’s entire worldview seems predicated on a notion that life is unfair, the system is rigged and he alone can balance the scales back toward justice. This all makes sense as a rhetorical strategy, and it has proved popular in an age in which most people deem the American government to be about as straight as a bowl of chicken noodle soup. But it doesn’t play so well when his grievances are focused almost exclusively on himself and his own personal gripes.

Indicting his enemies, trying to get late-night talkshows canceled and whinging about an award that apparently has no value – it all starts to get rather tiresome, like your mom re-litigating that time Beverly forgot to send a thank-you card after her wedding. How many times can one hear about the relatively low cost of postage before it’s time to move on to a different subject?

Trump’s approval rating is in the Trumpster dumpster. Granted, I can’t remember the last time a president was consistently popular since 9/11. So maybe this is just the new normal. Or maybe lots of people are tired of hearing how one specific person is having a bad day (again) because they didn’t win a medal, and now he has it, given to him today though it was awarded to somebody else.