Venezuela? What’s up with that?

[pgs]

Current sitting president was the vice president of the "regime" so how could there have been "regime change"?

The head of the army , police chief and mayor are all the same as well .

 

[Ron in Regina]

Where's the regime change?

Who was in charge of Venezuela a month ago? Who’s in charge of Venezuela today?

I can see this being both a regime change and not a regime change, depending on the perspective. It’s a weird situation.

According to Trump, the US would "run" Venezuela until there is a "safe, proper and judicious transition". Trump went on to say that the US and US companies would seize Venezuelan oil and sell it to other countries.

The same party aka regime.

Current sitting president was the vice president of the "regime" so how could there have been "regime change"?

Ah… so both were controlled by Trump then? That’s interesting all by itself, seeing as he’s the one calling the shots as opposed to the current sitting Venezuelan president.

Venezuela controlled its own affairs with its own politicians two weeks ago. Now Trump decides what happens. Trump decides who they do business with or not. Trump controls the money, etc…

If it’s not a regime change in definition, it sure is in aroma.

The head of the army , police chief and mayor are all the same as well .

Trump/America invading the country and now calling the shots, that’s different.
It is a weird situation. I could probably argue that the regime change hasn’t changed also…& that it also has.

 

[petros]

Venezuela controlled its own affairs with its own politicians two weeks ago. Now Trump decides what happens. Trump decides who they do business with or not. Trump controls the money, etc…

If it’s not a regime change in definition, it sure is in aroma.

It was a bloodless decapitation. No regime change.

Zionists took out Hamas leadership but was it a regime change?

 

[Ron in Regina]

It was a bloodless decapitation. No regime change.

Zionists took out Hamas leadership but was it a regime change?

Bloodless? Anyway, lots of News stories out about Trump & Cuba now, since Trump (not the ‘still & current’ regime in Venezuela) cut off all oil from Venezuela to Cuba…that they “have to” make a deal or Else (!!) without saying what the deal is about. What “deal” does Trump want from Cuba?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Bloodless?

Except for 75 or so allegedly Cuban merc-- um, allies in security.

So we're told. You decide.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Except for 75 or so allegedly Cuban merc-- um, allies in security.

So we're told. You decide.

And a couple hundred Venezuelans, etc…but what is Trumps “deal” he wants from Cuba?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

And a couple hundred Venezuelans, etc…but what is Trumps “deal” he wants from Cuba?

Depends on which report you read. Nobody is talking who isn't a notorious serial liar.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Depends on which report you read. Nobody is talking who isn't a notorious serial liar.

Lots of news stories about the demand & rejection (of any deal forced by Trump) of Trumps “deal” without any details of what deal Trump wants.

I can (as can we all) speculate as to what that is, from a nation about 100 miles from Mar-a-Lago…but…

 

[petros]

Bloodless?

Except for 75 or so allegedly Cuban merc-- um, allies in security.

So we're told. You decide.

And a couple hundred Venezuelans, etc…but what is Trumps “deal” he wants from Cuba?

Was Maduro (the "head" of the regime) killed or the 75 Cubans were the head of Venezuela that was decapitated?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Was Maduro (the "head" of the regime) killed or the 75 Cubans were the head of Venezuela that was decapitated?

So it’s bloodless as long as Maduro himself didn’t bleed?

So if Iran’s current leader deposed without being hung from a streetlight or otherwise disposed of, then that’s a bloodless regime change?

If Ukraine’s current president is deposed without being….bloodied(?)….then the Russian special military whatever would have been a bloodless regime change?

 

[petros]

So it’s bloodless as long as Maduro himself didn’t bleed?

So if Iran’s current leader deposed without being hung from a streetlight or otherwise disposed of, then that’s a bloodless regime change?

If Ukraine’s current president is deposed without being….bloodied(?)….then the Russian special military whatever would have been a bloodless regime change?

Decapitation.

Remove the head.

He's not dead. It was an option.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Decapitation.

Remove the head.

He's not dead. It was an option.

Ahhhh…so if Zelenskyy or Khamenei come out of this with their heads still on their shoulders, but not in control of their countries…then these were options too? Bloodless options even?