Venezuela? What’s up with that?

Ron in Regina

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Why do Russia and Iran need Venezuelan oil?

Are the people okay with it? You never fell for the AI videos of people dancing in the streets did you?
Why does anyone want or need heavy oil? What does it have going on that light sweet crude doesn’t? Both are desirable for different reasons. Anyway…

From 1957 to 1960, Hellerstein served in the Judge Advocate General's Corps, the legal arm of the United States Army, so a military background.

In 1960, Hellerstein joined the now-defunct firm of Stroock & Stroock & Lavan, where he ended up practicing for much of his career. President Bill Clinton nominated him to the federal bench in 1998 more than a quarter century ago.

In a 2013 law review article, he wrote that some lawyers were "outraged" and accused him of "arrogation of power" when he rejected a $675 million settlement negotiated between New York City and injured first responders who raced to the World Trade Center after the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Hellerstein concluded that, while no statute or rule clearly addressed whether the deal needed his blessing, he had inherent authority to reject it as inadequate. The attorneys ended up presenting Hellerstein with a new settlement that added $125 million for victims.

In a high-profile case in 2020, Hellerstein ordered the release of former Trump personal lawyer Michael Cohen, after Trump's Justice Department tried to revoke his home confinement and return him to jail. Hellerstein concluded Trump's administration was retaliating against Cohen for writing a book.

In 2023, Hellerstein denied a request by Trump to move to federal court his New York criminal case relating to a hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. Trump was tried in state court and found guilty of 34 felony counts.

In May 2025, Hellerstein rejected an effort by the Trump administration to use a wartime law to send alleged gang members to Venezuela, saying the men had been improperly denied their day in court. “This is the United States of America," he said. "People are being thrown out of the country because of their tattoos.”

The 92-year-old judge overseeing the Nicolas Maduro case has said he displays a Hebrew scripture from the Torah on the wall of his Manhattan chambers: “Tzedek, tzedek tirdof” — “Justice, justice you shall pursue."
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So…God Trump God forbid…what if this is a Judge that isn’t kowtowed by Trump and his sycophants? Will Trump and crew call for his public flogging after an impromptu IRS audit or eight? What if Hellerstein rules that Maduro is a world class turd, but was a sitting president with diplomatic immunity that was abducted from his own country, or something equally outrageous, and throws the case out??😲

And yes…US law allows kidnapping victims from other nations to be tried in the U.S. under extraterritorial jurisdiction, primarily through 18 U.S.C. § 1201 (Kidnapping) and related statutes, which assert U.S. authority over certain serious crimes like kidnapping committed abroad if the offender is found in the U.S., regardless of their illegal entry, a principle reinforced by Supreme Court cases like United States v. Alvarez-Machaín (1992). The ruling reconfirmed the Ker-Frisbie Doctrine, established in Ker v. Illinois (1886) and Frisbie v. Collins (1952), which generally permits the prosecution of criminal defendants regardless of whether their presence was obtained in accordance with an applicable extradition treaty.

This jurisdiction is rooted in treaties and international law recognizing offenses of universal concern, allowing prosecution if the alleged offender is physically present in the U.S., even if forcibly brought there, though this law smells like a two week old trout stored in a hot rubber boot in the sun.

Anyway, Hellerstein "is a man of strongly held convictions and he seeks to find a way to harmonize the law with his understanding of justice," said Mitchell Epner, a former federal prosecutor who has observed Hellerstein on the bench.
 

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Why do Russia and Iran need Venezuelan oil?

Are the people okay with it? You never fell for the AI videos of people dancing in the streets did you?
Well, considering there were reporters there, it sure wasn't AI for one thing. Also, having seen the interview of many people, not just Venezuelans, cheer for what is happening in Venezuela tells me that they & others are EXTREMELY HAPPY. But who knows what will happen now that the Venezuelan military is out killing & imprisoning the people celebrating in Venezuela. This isn't over & I'm sure Cuba & China especially will have their say. THAT will also be interesting.
The fun isn't over yet folks!! ;)
 

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Well, considering there were reporters there, it sure wasn't AI for one thing. Also, having seen the interview of many people, not just Venezuelans, cheer for what is happening in Venezuela tells me that they & others are EXTREMELY HAPPY. But who knows what will happen now that the Venezuelan military is out killing & imprisoning the people celebrating in Venezuela. This isn't over & I'm sure Cuba & China especially will have their say. THAT will also be interesting.
The fun isn't over yet folks!! ;)
Naive is bad!!! And so is debil. Don't be debil.



 

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Ron in Regina

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That's for sure!!
U.S. President Donald Trump on Sunday said no more Venezuelan oil or money will go to Cuba and suggested the Communist-run island should strike a deal with Washington, ramping up pressure on the long-time U.S. nemesis and provoking defiant words from the island's leadership.

Venezuela is was Cuba's biggest oil supplier, but no cargoes have departed from Venezuelan ports to the Caribbean country since the capture of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro by U.S. forces in early January amid a strict U.S. oil blockade on the OPEC country, shipping data shows.

Meanwhile, Caracas and Washington are progressing on a $2 billion “deal” to supply up to 50 million barrels of Venezuelan oil to the U.S. with proceeds to be deposited in U.S. Treasury-supervised accounts, a major test of the emerging relationship between Trump and interim President Delcy Rodriguez.
"THERE WILL BE NO MORE OIL OR MONEY GOING TO CUBA - ZERO! I strongly suggest they make a deal, BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE," Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform on Sunday.

Venezuela has had a complicated relationship with international oil firms since oil was discovered in its territory more than 100 years ago.

Chevron is the last remaining major American oil firm still operating in the country.

A handful of companies from other countries, including Spain's Repsol and Italy's Eni, both of which were represented at the White House meeting, are also active.

Trump said his administration would decide which firms would be allowed to operate which puts the American/Venezuela oil “deal” above in perspective.

"You're dealing with us directly. You're not dealing with Venezuela at all. We don't want you to deal with Venezuela," he said.
The White House has said it is working to "selectively" roll back US sanctions that have restricted sales of Venezuelan oil since 2017.

The US this week has seized several oil tankers carrying sanctioned crude. American officials have said they are working to set up a sales process, which would deposit money raised into US-controlled accounts.

"We are open for business," Trump said.
 

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Meanwhile, Caracas and Washington are progressing on a $2 billion “deal” to supply up to 50 million barrels of Venezuelan oil to the U.S. with proceeds to be deposited in U.S. Treasury-supervised accounts, a major test of the emerging relationship between Trump and interim President Delcy Rodriguez.
Where's the regime change?
 

Ron in Regina

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Where's the regime change?
Who was in charge of Venezuela an month ago? Who’s in charge of Venezuela today?
(YouTube & Trump: U.S. will run Venezuela)

According to Trump, the US would "run" Venezuela until there is a "safe, proper and judicious transition". Trump went on to say that the US and US companies would seize Venezuelan oil and sell it to other countries.🤔
 

Ron in Regina

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President Trump declared a national (?The nation of America or the nation of Venezuela though?) emergency to shield Venezuelan oil revenue held by the U.S. government from seizure by private creditors, framing it as critical to U.S. national security and regional stability. Ah…

Trump said in the recent order, signed late Friday, that losing control of Venezuelan oil revenue would "materially harm the U.S. national security and U.S. foreign policy of the United States" by undermining efforts to stabilize Venezuela.

The president said on Truth Social on Saturday, though without providing specifics: "I love the Venezuelan people, and am already making Venezuela rich (?) and safe (?) again."
Having already demonstrated a disregard for Congress’s power of the purse, the president’s “controlled by me” (?) framing raised eyebrows. The executive branch can administer programs and executive laws, but it generally cannot create a new source of funding (?) and then decide how to spend it.
Exxon CEO Darren Woods told Trump that Venezuela would need to change its laws before it could be an attractive investment opportunity, during the high-profile meeting on Friday with at least 17 other oil executives.

Trump had urged the group to spend $100 billion to revitalize Venezuela's oil industry in a meeting less than a week after U.S. forces captured and removed Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro from power in a brazen overnight raid.

Woods' skeptical remarks quickly emerged as the dominant headline, undercutting the White House’s hopes of building momentum from its engagement with the world’s most prominent oil executives.

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday that he might block Exxon Mobil (XOM.N) from investing in Venezuela after the oil major's CEO called the country "uninvestable" during a White House meeting last week.
"I didn't like Exxon's response," Trump told reporters on Air Force One on his way back to Washington on Sunday. "I'll probably be inclined to keep Exxon out. I didn't like their response. They're playing too cute."

Exxon did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
 

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Ah… so both were controlled by Trump then? That’s interesting all by itself, seeing as he’s the one calling the shots as opposed to the current sitting Venezuelan president.
Current sitting president was the vice president of the "regime" so how could there have been "regime change"?
 

Ron in Regina

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Current sitting president was the vice president of the "regime" so how could there have been "regime change"?
Venezuela controlled its own affairs with its own politicians two weeks ago. Now Trump decides what happens. Trump decides who they do business with or not. Trump controls the money, etc…

If it’s not a regime change in definition, it sure is in aroma.