USA Can Still Take Our Water

EagleSmack

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The lowest of those Great Lakes is about 250 feet above sea level and you have to climb a 1400 foot hill to get a flow into it from 0 feet. The only way James Bay can flow south is if your pour water on your globe.

Well just get rail cars and move the water. :lol:

Do you want fresh water (winter ice) or use desalination to remove the salt first. Who is going to buy the salt? Nobody. Use rail cars and take the ice just far enough that when it melts the lakes are the closest place to flow to. Some way to hasten the spring melt so it keeps track with the rest of the melting.
Either way a glass of that water would be about $150. Why not wait until the north unfreezes and then you have ready made farmland and a large steady supply of fresh water. Hauling Peat south makes more sense as it can make marginal land quite productive and Canada and Russia both have more than enough of that.

As it is James and Hudson Bays might become the new home for everybody from the Gulf, for a damn good price.

LMFAO. :lol:

Canadians can still take our sun tans.

It is a well known fact that Canadians (some...not all) visit sunny Florida during the winter months. I know because I have met some down there. They seem to be taking their sun tanned bods back to Canada with them.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

Those are tans that Americans should be getting but some Canadians are sucking up our Florida sun and taking their nice bronze skin home with them.

;-)
 

Praxius

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.....Canadians can still take our sun tans.

It is a well known fact that Canadians (some...not all) visit sunny Florida during the winter months. I know because I have met some down there. They seem to be taking their sun tanned bods back to Canada with them.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

Those are tans that Americans should be getting but some Canadians are sucking up our Florida sun and taking their nice bronze skin home with them.

;-)

Yeah and on top of that, those Canadians stealing your tans in Florida now have all the free body oil they require for their tans..... all they have to do now is scoop up some from the water, rub it on and they're all set. :lol:
 

JLM

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Now this one ... I really would like to see.....

Yeah, really!!!!!!!!! The whole O.P. sounds like a non issue to me. Once the water flows south across the line - who cares what they do with it? Why would we be concerned about them taking water out of a stystem running north into Canada? I think in the case of the Red River we'd wish at times they'd done more of that. Anyway, if we are concerned about what they are taking out on the way up, we can always take more out on the way down to even things up. :lol: The amount of water on the planet is always constant, it never disappears. :lol:

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What is a concern is if the Americans go after the water that flows to the Arctic. along with a few BC rivers such as the Skeena and Fraser.[/QUOTE]

And how would the Yanks get water out of the Fraser and Skeena (short of baling it out as it flows into the Pacific Ocean)? :lol::lol::lol:
 

petros

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And how would the Yanks get water out of the Fraser and Skeena (short of baling it out as it flows into the Pacific Ocean)? :lol::lol::lol:[/QUOTE]
Matbe that person meant the Columbia?
 

EagleSmack

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Yeah and on top of that, those Canadians stealing your tans in Florida now have all the free body oil they require for their tans..... all they have to do now is scoop up some from the water, rub it on and they're all set. :lol:

Hmmmm... I don't think that would help with the tans though.
 

ironsides

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Well just get rail cars and move the water. :lol:



LMFAO. :lol:

Canadians can still take our sun tans.

It is a well known fact that Canadians (some...not all) visit sunny Florida during the winter months. I know because I have met some down there. They seem to be taking their sun tanned bods back to Canada with them.

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

Those are tans that Americans should be getting but some Canadians are sucking up our Florida sun and taking their nice bronze skin home with them.

;-)
Yes, a total outrage. the nerve of those people.
:lol:
 

lone wolf

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The only real concern I have over water diversion is in how it is diverted. If they open Lake Michigan to the Mississippi at Chicago, how long will it be before boaters on the Trent and Rideau canals are going to be dodging flying carp?
 

MHz

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All and all it is easier to move people than water. The steep slopes of BC would need to be terraced if high production is a goal. Alberta would need to increase the farmland in the north by draining some of the muskeg and the extra peat shipped south to be mixed into the current soil that is too sandy for production today. If they want to keep the irrigated south stop the evaporation by delivering water underground rather than spraying. The desert is cold at night that is the only time water should be fed to the plants. They don't need to import they need to conserve what they have already. You can also make water my mixing two gases together, the goal there would be water with price having no limit.

Lightweight sail-cloth would last 20 years and then no water is needed above the initial filling an resupply of what open doors would cause. That could be installed between the arrays of solar panels replace the water now being lost to making power. Using the right solar angels the white cloth could also enhance the light reaching the solar cells upping their out-put just a tad.

The bigger projects might need some real capital (honey-comb Baffin Islands high cliffs with sunlight being piped in via fiber optics which allows for fresh plants like tomatoes and humans would need the Vit D that suntanning provides today). Can you imagine what the hallways (streets actually) would look like while collecting all the shifting light patterns of the Northern Lights?

The only real concern I have over water diversion is in how it is diverted. If they open Lake Michigan to the Mississippi at Chicago, how long will it be before boaters on the Trent and Rideau canals are going to be dodging flying carp?
"flying carp" is that the name of a new freight hauling company that uses the canal for big loads of cargo. The Red River could be reversed just with a strong north wind and Lake Winnipeg could be refilled from the north via many small dams.
 
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MHz

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What is the final destination for this water? As it is the Columbia isn't dry before it hits the sea. The east side of the Rockies could use the path the floods used when the scab-lands were created. Why not build some dams to hold back water there, they would make for some very large and very deep lakes with not very much work compared to reshaping the Rockies. The don't make enough explosives to move that much rock to use the Columbia..
 

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There are a whole bunch of environmental laws in Canada that would prevent any major water exports. Also the matter of having to consult with the indians before any exports could take place.
 

JLM

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There are a whole bunch of environmental laws in Canada that would prevent any major water exports. Also the matter of having to consult with the indians before any exports could take place.

Actually (based on knowledge from my job I worked at for 35 years) before you can dig a hole in the ground there are about dozen or more agencies that have to be informed and in many cases approval granted. Indian affairs, archelogical people, A.L.R., Telephone authority, gas authority, Hydro authority, fish and wildlife, environment just to name a few. I know in some cases it sounds like "red tape", in some cases it is important (do you want be half way through constructing a canal and run into an ancient burial ground?)
 

ironsides

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There are a whole bunch of environmental laws in Canada that would prevent any major water exports. Also the matter of having to consult with the indians before any exports could take place.

We just have our Indians talk to your Indians and let them work out the deal.
 

ironsides

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We have them where needed. Water is still to cheap for the politicians to do anything about it for now, especially with all the flooding going on.
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taxslave

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We just have our Indians talk to your Indians and let them work out the deal.

My ancestors are your Indians and left for a good reason. Something to do with Yankee theft of their land so I can't put in a good word for you.
We could smoke a peace pipe for a few decades and talk about it.
 

ironsides

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My ancestors are your Indians and left for a good reason. Something to do with Yankee theft of their land so I can't put in a good word for you.
We could smoke a peace pipe for a few decades and talk about it.

You ought to come on down here and join up with our local Miccosukee and Seminole tribes, they have land, are rich and never signed a peace treaty. Would also be nice to sit and smoke a peace pipe for a few decades. :smile: