Us imposes steel/aluminum tariffs
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It's not the first time the US has imploded on itself (can you say housing bubble and bailouts?), and it won't be the last.
And yet somehow, Canada is still here... with barely a scrape and with our standard of living still higher than the US.
Trump gave the rich a massive tax cut so he could look like a hero to the people. And now behind closed doors, he's desperately trying to make up for the loss in revenues by other means (ie: tariff tax revenues), and screwing over his allies to do it.
The simple fact of the matter is this: They're cutting off their own nose to spite their face.
It's a big world out there with plenty of potential trading partners looking to cut bilateral trade agreements with us as we speak.
Canada will survive the stench of the fat fart happening in the oval office... we'll survive just fine.
Personally, I would rather see less "dependence " on the US. I too think that becoming even more worldly in our trade relations etc iss timely. It's starting to happen.....and that is good to see.
We just have to make sure we continue to handle the current situation with dignity, smarts, and class. .....and not descend into their feudal behavior.
(bTW: welcome to the forum.) ;-)
Agreed.
We need to just ripoff the bandaid and get it over with already. Canada made a huge mistake by putting all of our eggs into the US basket. It's time to spread our eggs elsewhere.
The US has become too volatile, unstable, and undependable... and with Trump at the helm, they can no longer even be trusted to honour any kind of agreements, pacts, treaties, or friendships.
Time to put the US at an arm's length distance, before they drag us down the drain with them.
It's amazing a lot of people haven't yet caught on to the fact Trump has a dickering process with nothing final until the last minute! :lol:
Trump slams Canada on Twitter, suggests replacing NAFTA with separate deals
https://www.ctvnews.ca/trump-slams-...replacing-nafta-with-separate-deals-1.3954972
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CNN is reporting that Trump supporters are leary/ concerned about his tariff actions. They realize that they will be affected adversely as well.
The price of Beer will go up now ( for Americans.)
https://www.ctvnews.ca/trump-slams-...replacing-nafta-with-separate-deals-1.3954972
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CNN is reporting that Trump supporters are leary/ concerned about his tariff actions. They realize that they will be affected adversely as well.
The price of Beer will go up now ( for Americans.)
And it's amazing how many people (including the clown in the oval office) actually think those types of imbecile tactics work when dealing with entire countries.
Playing petulant childish games does not work on the world stage when you're dealing with a bunch of well educated adults and world leaders. World leaders who did not get their diplomas from Trump university, I might add.
Trump and his merry band of Trumpettes are (so far) too stupid to have figured that out yet.
Let's face it: Trump wouldn't know how to pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel, ffs.
Well, fear not.... because he's about to get an education on the world stage that's going to make his over-inflated head explode.
So long as the price of beer doesn't go up here in Canada, it's all good.
The price of beer skyrocketing in Canada because of Trump's childish temper tantrums just might cause the entire country to buy a pack of matches and a gallon of gas and pay another visit to the Whitehouse (circa 1812 style).
LOL
In the meantime, I'm perfectly okay with squirting French's Ketchup on my fries instead of Heinz Ketchup... I may even discover that I actually like French's better !
While the Trump collusion with Russia and Trump's political battles on the world stage is headlining the media .......
Hundreds of very conservative judges are being appointed to lifetime jobs.
The NDAA has been reauthorized and reaffirmed.
Regulations which had the congress tied up in knots for the past 25 years, as they negotiated amongst themselves in attempts to forumulate "Acceptable-Repectable" behavior within every sector of American Life since the 1980's are being dismissed and repealed.
25 years of environmental safeguards, 25 years of financial regulation tossed.
Is the real collusion actually between the media and the Ruling Class with concerted efforts to have us concerned with "Trump Problems" rather than "Voter Problems"?
Hundreds of very conservative judges are being appointed to lifetime jobs.
The NDAA has been reauthorized and reaffirmed.
Regulations which had the congress tied up in knots for the past 25 years, as they negotiated amongst themselves in attempts to forumulate "Acceptable-Repectable" behavior within every sector of American Life since the 1980's are being dismissed and repealed.
25 years of environmental safeguards, 25 years of financial regulation tossed.
Is the real collusion actually between the media and the Ruling Class with concerted efforts to have us concerned with "Trump Problems" rather than "Voter Problems"?
You and Ancient Muse are both free to trade with most countries in the world . Set up a company and start . Why do you always want private companies to change their business model ?
Again you are free to trade your product where you see fit .
Why shouldn’t Canad and the U.S. have a deal ?
No surprise.
you will also note, the leftists who are now shouting about everything, threatening war with the US, blah blah,
are also the ones who will never step up and serve.
Because they have no idea how private business works.
Leftists are like that, it's a mental disease.
Hopefully someone with brains will show up and get us a deal.. without Mexico.
That was terrible idea right from the start.
Trump's popularity chart (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/) doesn't particularly support what you are saying. While Trump might not always appear to be particularly Presidential (like Richard Nixon or Bill Clinton) he does exhibit guts, common sense, determination and perserverence. :lol:
Oh pity the poor LIE-berals! The trade war that Our idiot Boy |Justin has started with his anti white and anti Yankee bigotry has LIE-berals and their less intelligent NDP cousins squealing like the Hogs who have just arrived at the big building that produces all the bacon!
The mess all comes back to the indoctrination that the Trudeau sons Sacha and Justin got from their vile father Pierre! The boys have carefully absorbed all the bigotry and bias and anti western deceit that Pierre could stuff into them!
The truly scary element of Trudeau values is that NDPers have either supported the vile values or NDPers have shouted: "even more from us" on issues of interest to LIE-berals!
Consider this reminder of the roots of Trudeau family values:
For anybody looking for the definitive answer to what manner of utterly destructive goof our former prime minister Pierre Trudeau was- and what sort or poisoned values he passed on to his wretched son Justin, one has only to look at the Ottawa Citizen review of a biography of his life written by Max and Monique Nemni. I have drawn out some highlights of that review and then added some comments of my own to the Citizen review and my words appear in brackets. The review appeared in the May 31, 2006 edition and the Nemnis are quoted as follows:
“We discovered a Trudeau who was remarkably different from what we and everyone else had assumed," authors Max and Monique Nemni write in their book, Young Trudeau: Son of Quebec, Father of Canada, 1919-1944.
Even those involved in the book's production say they were shocked at what it reveals about the man who is widely regarded as a modern father of Confederation.
"I was astounded and appalled by this lengthy and convincing account of Trudeau's intellectual journey to the age of 25, long past the age when these activities can be dismissed as youthful follies," says the book's publisher, Douglas Gibson, a long-time admirer of Canada's 15th prime minister.
(Gibson is referring to the Trudeau dedication to anti Semitism, radical Communist ideology and disdain for the democratic process and his separatist ideals).
However, the Nemnis' book draws on Mr. Trudeau's own writings to demonstrate that in the late 1930s, as a student at the Jesuit-run College Jean-de-Brebeuf, Mr. Trudeau ardently embraced the chauvinist francophone nationalism.
In 1936, at the age of 17, Mr. Trudeau wrote a school essay that portrayed him as someday leading a separatist army to create an independent and Catholic Quebec. In one school essay, he sketches a fantasy of being a revolutionary blowing up "the enemies' munitions factories."
"I will return to Montreal sometime around the year 1976: the time is ripe to declare Quebec's independence. The Maritime provinces join with us, and so does Manitoba. I take command of the troops and lead the army to victory. I now live in a country that is Catholic and Canadien."
Mr. Trudeau also demonstrated a distinct lack of multicultural credentials in his youth. He wrote a one-act comedy of manners in 1938 that "was intended to bring out the difference between dishonest and profiteering Jews and honest but too naive French Canadians." The play was selected by the college to mark its 10th anniversary and was "a great success."
Nor, it seems, was young Mr. Trudeau enamoured with liberalism. "Liberalism leads to excesses: to unemployment, anarchy," he wrote in jotting down the main ideas of the "first serious book" he'd read, Pour nous grandir by Victor Barbeau.
One book Mr. Trudeau particularly admired was by Alex Carrel, who won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 1912, and, in 1941, returned to Nazi-occupied Europe to become a star in the collaborationist Vichy regime led by Henri Petain. In L'homme, cet inconnu, published in 1935, Mr. Carrel denounced democracy as foolish and harmful.
"The equality of rights is an illusion. The feeble-minded and the man of genius must not be equal before the law. ... The sexes are not equal."
(I guess that Trudope remark about the `sexes` largely explains why Margaret Trudope ran off to New York/Studio 54 with the Stones and got FAMOUSLY photographed slouching without her underwear! Marg Trudope could give Brittany Spears lessons on public indignity! And no wonder she was a little unstable with a hubby like Pierre!)
Young Mr. Trudeau regarded it-the Carrel book- as the "perfect" book that needed "to be assimilated entirely."
As a first-year law student at the Universite de Montreal in the fall of 1940, Mr. Trudeau wrote notes on the defects of democracy: "Ignorance, credulity, intolerance, hatred for superiority, the cult of incompetence, and excess of equality, versatility, the passions of the crowd, the envy of individuals."
Indeed, like most Quebecers, Mr. Trudeau was against wartime conscription. But his objection wasn't just passive. Young Trudeau advocated what can only be, considering the circumstances, as treason.
In 1942, Mr. Trudeau gave a speech supporting the anti-conscription candidate Jean Drapeau, the future mayor of Montreal. The speech, say the Nemnis, was "anti-British (and) anti-colonial." He denounced the "military clique" ruling Canada and the "disgusting dishonesty" of the (LIE-beral!) Mackenzie King government in forcing conscription on French Canadians. "And if we are not in a democracy, let the revolution begin without delay."
(In other writings not connected to the Ottawa Citizen review, Turdeau was asked why he did not join the fight against Hitler and he responded “I was taught to stay away from Imperialist wars”!)
Rhetoric perhaps, but Mr. Trudeau went on to denounce the Canadian government for even having declared war against Germany in 1939, "at a time when America was not threatened with an invasion, at a time when Hitler had not yet won his staggering victories."
The Nemnis attribute Mr. Trudeau's youthful attitude to the influence of his upbringing and the social environment in which he was raised.
The Nemnis themselves have admitted in interviews that as friends of Mr. Trudeau, they were uncertain about revealing everything they discovered. The Nemnis, academics in the fields of political science and linguistics, describe themselves as left-leaning liberals and staunch federalists. Between 1995 and 2000, they edited the pro-federalist magazine Cite libre (and some call it Communist inspired as its idea of strong federalism included radical socialism as economic policy) at the urging of Mr. Trudeau, who was one of the magazine's founders in the 1960s.
"We were his friends and we wondered whether we should reveal this," said Ms. Nemni, who, along with her husband, got Mr. Trudeau's approval for the biography in 1995.
And they wonder why Mr. Trudeau saved the material, considering the damage it could do to his reputation. "We believe that he had failed to face up to the follies of his youth, but was unwilling to cheat with history."
(I say: The Nemnis and Douglas Gibson are of course desperately seeking some excuse for their suddenly disgraced and much admired leader and long time friend and they wish to pin his disgraceful attitudes onto youthful foolishness-this is deceit on a grand scale! Trudeau was a life long hard core communist who carefully followed the Stalinist party line.
In early 1939 when Stalin and Hitler announced their non aggression pact, it meant that Hitler became a Stalin ally and thus somebody to be supported by Trudeau. The pact cleared the way for Hitler to attack Poland in Sept/39-free from the threat of Soviet interference) and this turned Britain into a Trudeau enemy-daring to elect anti communist Churchill and then declaring war on Germany and when Canada joined the fight WE also became imperialist enemies of Trudeau!
The Nemi`s speak of a strong anti semitic streak in staunchly Catholic Quebec of the early 20th century and this would have been the a Trudeau value as well so they say. However the motivation for Trudeau to be riding about Montreal wearing a German army helmet derives from his Stalinist leanings. Jewish groups with the aid of Swiss Red Cross were doing all they could to expose the ever more savage atrocities committed against Jews, Slavs and political opponents in the Nazi occupied territories and they were making the Nazis look bad-and by extension they were making Stalin look bad so Trudeau took action.
There are a number of accounts of Trudeau riding through Jewish neighbourhoods on his Harley Davidson. Some stories suggest he only had the helmet while others say he wore a full Nazi uniform. One has to assume that since he was so busy writing speeches denouncing Britain; he often had scheduling troubles and simply donned the helmet and left the rest of the uniform at home-at other times with less demands on his time he donned the full uniform. He has also been reported giving the finger to Jews on the street-an early form of Salmon Arm Salute!
The Trudeau act with the helmet and uniform was not a one time thing nor was it a simple prank-his act was designed to send a message-one as plain and stark as planting a burning cross in front the residence of a 1950 Mississippi Black family. The message was this-we know who you are and where you live. You need to learn your place and keep your head down and your mouth shut-and MAYBE trouble will pass you by. I believe this is why Trudeau repeatedly appeared in Montreal suburbs in his regalia-as an attempt to intimidate anti Hitler critics into silence.
Of course when Hitler tore up the pact and invaded the Soviet Union, Our Pet returned to his single minded support of radical socialism).
Why didn't CBSA do its part to keep the goods from being funneled through Canada?
Liberals are covering the truth up by instigating fear and loathing to deflect from their failure.
Liberals are covering the truth up by instigating fear and loathing to deflect from their failure.
Oh look !
Partisan pissing contest. Colour me not interested.
I don't give a damn if Trump is a republican, democrat, independent, conservative, liberal, libertarian, Saturday afternoon anarchist, or a hippy dippy buddhist reciting the Om mantra on Thursday nights with daisies sticking out of his toupe....
The guy's a fricken moron, asshat, and con artist all rolled up into one big fluffy orange package.
The sooner Americans wake up to that fact and start realizing he's not the messiah, the sooner the rest of the world can get back to playing grown up games in the grown up world.
Partisan pissing contest. Colour me not interested.
I don't give a damn if Trump is a republican, democrat, independent, conservative, liberal, libertarian, Saturday afternoon anarchist, or a hippy dippy buddhist reciting the Om mantra on Thursday nights with daisies sticking out of his toupe....
The guy's a fricken moron, asshat, and con artist all rolled up into one big fluffy orange package.
The sooner Americans wake up to that fact and start realizing he's not the messiah, the sooner the rest of the world can get back to playing grown up games in the grown up world.