Treatment of prisoner reprehensible!

damngrumpy

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This is nothing short of disgusting, a person with mental issues being treated like this.
If this were a child or a down syndrome child there would be hell to pay and a charge
of Bullying would have also been laid. yes this person was not restrained she was
tormented. When done by thugs in a government detention center it was Torture.
 

petros

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Meanwhile Karla Hamolka is free. What a very strange system we have.
Somehow there was money for the adult forensic unit where she was housed but none for kids so they just hold them in regular criminal facilities.

What a strange system we have indeed.
 

JLM

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Somehow there was money for the adult forensic unit where she was housed but none for kids so they just hold them in regular criminal facilities.

What a strange system we have indeed.

System or total f**Kup?
 

WLDB

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Mental health is the biggest issue in health care and the least funded.

Indeed. If it was properly dealt with there would be a lot less people in prison. Well, the provincial ones anyway. We should be doing that instead of building new prisons.
 

darkbeaver

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In our world things are properly dealt with or they are efficiently dealt with. And the bench mark of efficiency is,drum roll, profitability. Do we really want to address the problem or do we just want to appear to address the problem while addressing some other hidden problem, one of the unknown knowns.
 

WLDB

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In our world things are properly dealt with or they are efficiently dealt with. And the bench mark of efficiency is,drum roll, profitability.

There are some things you cant put a dollar amount on. Mental health and a safe society being some of them. The economy should be a tool we use but it seems to be the opposite lately.
 

darkbeaver

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There are some things you cant put a dollar amount on. Mental health and a safe society being some of them. The economy should be a tool we use but it seems to be the opposite lately.

Has the economy just changed or has your perspective grown? Yes the economy is fueled by people, we are the tools the economy uses to grow and conquer and endure.
imho

The dollar thing is a very old truism/maxim/natural law, I guess. The reason for our economic crisis is the repeated contortion and disregard of that and the history that goes with it. Money is the root of all evil, I think it goes.
 

Tonington

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The take home message is that Canada, like many other countries, is inadequately prepared to deal with the intersection between mental health and correctional services. Mental health in Canada is a patchwork of institutions and programs that simply struggle year-to-year to find adequate resources to offer the kind of services they are expected to provide. It's estimated that roughly a third of those with mental illness in Canada receive adequate treatment. A large percentage of the treatment comes from their general practitioners, which isn't optimal for a healthcare system that is already strained, nor for the patient who would benefit better from focused treatment options like counseling or psychiatric inpatient experience.

The sort of approach we've seen recently from Ottawa, with the tough on crime agenda, certainly isn't adequate to even address these issues. In fact the latest legislation further burdened the provinces with respect to resources, and will mean more inmates who are not receiving proper treatment. It's astonishing really, because it's not an issue that affects the person alone. Untreated mental illness is a risk to others around them, including the other inmates, as well as correctional staff.
 

JLM

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In our world things are properly dealt with or they are efficiently dealt with. And the bench mark of efficiency is,drum roll, profitability. Do we really want to address the problem or do we just want to appear to address the problem while addressing some other hidden problem, one of the unknown knowns.

Sounds good, BUT the one thing they shouldn't be doing is CAUSING MORE PROBLEMS!

There are some things you cant put a dollar amount on. Mental health and a safe society being some of them. The economy should be a tool we use but it seems to be the opposite lately.

Unfortunately, some segments of society "deserve" sound mind and safety more than other segments!
 

earth_as_one

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A 14 year old girl convicted of throwing apples spends years in prison under harsh conditions, ill treatment, isolation and ends up killing herself while prison guards watch.

Yes the system failed this person.
 

WLDB

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She deserves to be free.

Don't take my word for it. Read "Journey Into Darkness" by FBI profiler John Douglas.


She was probably manipulated and had a quasi Stockholm syndrome sort of thing, but thats no excuse for what she did. She knew what he was going to do and helped.
 

Cannuck

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She was probably manipulated and had a quasi Stockholm syndrome sort of thing, but thats no excuse for what she did. She knew what he was going to do and helped.

You will forgive me if I give more credibility to an FBI profiler that worked on the case than to some guy/gal on an internet chitchat forum.