Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

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THree that you got wrong. Fact: we need the oil exports. Fact: There are thousands of good paying careers at stake here. Fact: There is no danger to fishing jobs.
What fishing jobs ? The UFAWU is now part of Unifor because they no longer have enough membership.
 

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What fishing jobs ? The UFAWU is now part of Unifor because they no longer have enough membership.

I was thinking fish farms and processing plants which are mostly nonunion. The feds destroyed commercial fishing decades back.

Does anyone in BC care about the Atlantic?

On our eastern coasts, transport Canada data shows that more than 1.6 million barrels of petroleum is safely moved from 23 Atlantic Canada ports each day. Another 500,000 barrels per day moves up the St. Lawrence to Montreal and other Quebec ports. Overall, Eastern Canada’s ports berth some 4,000 inbound petroleum tankers each year without any major incidents.

But that is mostly imported oil so it doesn't polute.
 

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Okay.
This is really quite simple.
The project has been approved. It is in the national interest, and needs to be declared so by the federal gov't.
According to our constitution, inter-provincial transportation of goods is solely a federal responsibility
That means BC has no say. Period. All it takes is a federal gov't willing to do its job.
Declare this project in the national interest, tell BC to howl all it likes, but we're building it, and put the shovels in the ground.
Peaceful protest is, of course, perfectly within the rights of the people. However, blocking the project or trying to sabotage it physically is not. Do not stand for it. Use the minimum force necessary to expediate the process of construction, but be willing to use force against those that break the law.
And if BC tries to pass some blocking legislation, the feds need to disallow it.
Yes, they have that constitutional power. Unused since the 1940s, but it is there, in black and white.
Just do it.
If we were like this 150 years ago, we wouldn't be a country, because we'd still be waiting for the railroad to be built.
 

Decapoda

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Okay.
This is really quite simple.
The project has been approved. It is in the national interest, and needs to be declared so by the federal gov't.
According to our constitution, inter-provincial transportation of goods is solely a federal responsibility
That means BC has no say. Period. All it takes is a federal gov't willing to do its job.
Declare this project in the national interest, tell BC to howl all it likes, but we're building it, and put the shovels in the ground.
Peaceful protest is, of course, perfectly within the rights of the people. However, blocking the project or trying to sabotage it physically is not. Do not stand for it. Use the minimum force necessary to expediate the process of construction, but be willing to use force against those that break the law.
And if BC tries to pass some blocking legislation, the feds need to disallow it.
Yes, they have that constitutional power. Unused since the 1940s, but it is there, in black and white.
Just do it.
If we were like this 150 years ago, we wouldn't be a country, because we'd still be waiting for the railroad to be built.

I agree, but do you really think Trudeau and this Liberal Government has the intestinal fortitude to take a stand on this? I'll believe it when I see it, and I haven't seen much yet that would give me any confidence this is going to happen.

Trudeau is so busy trying to be everything for everybody, he can't and won't take a stand. When the hard work begins, he's off somewhere posing for selfies and delegating (aka dodging) the work. In the meantime, our economy is taking a big sh*t, our resources are devalued on the world market due to inability to move them, provinces are at each other's throats on inter-provincial trade and policy, free trade with our neighbors is completely up in the air, illegal immigration issues are plaguing provinces, provincial law enforcement have more questions than answers on huge upcoming issues that no one seems to be interested in addressing, on and on, and on.

This is what happens when you put a poser in a position of authority. You get good photos, but not much else.
 

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Trump opened up all the US oil fields obama had sealed. By 2020 the US will be the oil king, they are selling oil in the mideast already. They want to supply china at a price that will make Canadian oil and gas profitable again.

If Canada wants to not get wiped out, and turn gangrene green, like the soros lovers want, we NEED those pipe lines. We also should be refining too.
 

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We have geothermal coming out or asses: The valley of Hot Springs.

So do you have a project on the go to harness this future energy?

In case you were wondering about Kinder Morgan pipeline failures, here are a few recent ones...

"July 15, 2005: 210,000 litres (1,320 barrels) of crude oil were leaked at the Sumas Tank Farm operated by Kinder Morgan ,
June 4, 2007: 69,950 litres (440 barrels) of crude oil were spilled at former Wahleach pump station, and reports indicate that the Kinder Morgan pipeline may have been leaking for weeks beforehand,
July 24, 2007: 250,000 litres (1,500 barrels) of crude oil spilled out of the pipeline in Burnaby, BC. The crude oil flowed through neighbourhood storm sewers and ditches before entering and contaminating a large portion of Burrard Inlet,
May 6, 2009: An estimated 200,000 litres (1,260 barrels) of crude oil leaked from Kinder Morgan’s oil storage facility in Burnaby, BC,
January 24, 2012: An estimated 110,000,000 litres (691,880 barrels) of crude oil leaked from Kinder Morgan’s oil storage facility on Sumas Mountain in Abbotsford,
November 9, 2004: Five people were killed, and four were injured in an explosion that occurred when an excavator hit a Kinder Morgan gas pipeline in Walnut Creek, California (SFGate). Kinder Morgan had failed to properly mark the pipeline’s location, and the excavator operator had been given an inaccurate map ,
November 21, 2004: A storm caused a 14-inch diameter pipeline in Sacramento California to erupt, causing an 80-foot geyser of oil to shoot into the air. The leak was not discovered until the next morning, and the nearby highway was closed, followed by Kinder Morgan’s multi-day clean-up response,"


Do you really think I give a shit about what Smurphy thinks. The clown is a major league asshole.

I guess the ERP and cleanup protocol do work or the line would have been shut down
 

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So do you have a project on the go to harness this future energy?

Sask will have it long before BC because we can afford it.

#powertogrow

Geothermal Agreement Signed - SaskPower

Geothermal or batteries still can't pull an 80ft seeder.

They could build a pipeline! Of course the hot sulfur water is completely harmless to any drinkable water it mixes with....

It's radioactive.

You don't get a name like Radium Hot Springs without it.
 
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Decapoda

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Okay.
This is really quite simple.
The project has been approved. It is in the national interest, and needs to be declared so by the federal gov't.

I hate to be the one to bring this up, but Northern Gateway was approved as well...subject to 209 conditions. The approval was subsequently withdrawn by the Liberals.

This pipe has been approved with only 157 conditions, however Trudeau is on record as saying... and I quote... "We can't shut down the oil sands tomorrow. We need to phase them out. We need to manage the transition off our dependence on fossil fuels." It's pretty clear what his stance is on oil sands, fossil fuels, and pipelines.

At a time when Canada desperately needs leadership that will fight for our resource economy, we have a lightweight who's primary objective is driven on shutting it down...despite what he's saying out the other side of his mouth to try and be the hero to everyone. the fight is really just getting started, it's going to take more than a few stern, empty words from this pufter to get the heavy equipment moving.
 

Danbones

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Trudie is a Maurice Strong, George Soros puppet who is trying to do what obama and hitlary and the bushes couldn't do to the US, but did to Libya, Ukraine, Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq

While trump turns the US into a world supplier of oil to the china that owns these commienaziglobalists.