This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

AnnaG

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They deserve the same as any other Canadian and that means fuel and food or at least access to it.We kinda stuck them up there,least we can do is make sure they dont freeze to death as diesel runs the north,they would be back to traditional ways in one day if the fuel ever ran out.

Exploration camps the last few years had to fly their own jet fuel in from the south for the choppers as they wouldnt sell it at lots of the airports in the north.

You pick a small community like Baker lake,Arviet,chesterfield inlet,Whale cove,rankin or any other and to get your own place you go on a waiting list.
Shortage of building materials also if some barges dont get through.
Necessity is the mother of invention. ;)
 

Walter

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Doh! Maybe next year.
 

Walter

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Won't someone please think of the children; they've been indoctrinated that the poor polar bears will have no ice to hunt on. What will we tell the children now?
 

AnnaG

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Tell them they are getting aclimatized????????
....... and getting used to hunting on land.

If our summer is like our winter was this year, and this becomes a climactic trend, it's quite possible that the lush, green Kootenays could become like the not so lush, not so green southern Okanagan.
 

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....... and getting used to hunting on land.

If our summer is like our winter was this year, and this becomes a climactic trend, it's quite possible that the lush, green Kootenays could become like the not so lush, not so green southern Okanagan.

Just to be nosy, where in the Kootenays do you live? :lol::lol:
 

JLM

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Beside the lake. :)

Um, Kootenay Lake, that is.

I remember good times up there, Kaslo, Balfour, Riondel, Crawford Bay and of course several camping trips at Kokanee Creek. Okanagan Lake is warmer though............:lol::lol:
 

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What's happening to glaciers globally?

Although Glaciologists measure year-to-year changes in glacier activity, it is the long term changes which provide the basis for statements such as "Global Glacier Recession Continues". Some Skeptics confuse these issues by cherry picking individual glaciers or by ignoring long term trends. Diversions such as these do not address the most important question of what is the real state of glaciers globally?
The answer is not only clear but it is definitive and based on the scientific literature. Globally glaciers are losing ice at an extensive rate (Figure 1). There are still situations in which glaciers gain or lose ice more than typical for one region or another but the long term trends are all the same.


Figure 1: Long term changes in glacier volume adapted from Cogley 2009.

It is also very important to understand that glacier changes are not only dictated by air temperature changes but also by precipitation. Therefore, there are scenarios in which warming can lead to increases in precipitation (and thus glacier ice accumulation) such as displayed in part of southwestern Norway during the 1990s (Nesje et al 2008).

The bottom line is that glacier variations are largely dependent on localized conditions but that these variations are superimposed on a clear and evident long term reduction in glacier volume which has accelerated rapidly since the 1970s.
 

Walter

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Ahh crap, I hope Mark Serreze, the fellow who in 2008 said here was a 50/50 chance the arctic would be ice-free that summer, isn't trying for tenure.
 

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Ahh crap, I hope Mark Serreze, the fellow who in 2008 said here was a 50/50 chance the arctic would be ice-free that summer, isn't trying for tenure.

For those who want to know what he actually said:

"The issue is that, for the first time that I am aware of, the North Pole is covered with extensive first-year ice – ice that formed last autumn and winter. I'd say it's even-odds whether the North Pole melts out," said Dr Serreze.
Pretty big distinction between no ice at the North Pole, and an ice-free Arctic...but then again why worry about getting facts right when your mode is to deny reality?
 

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Ahh crap, I hope Mark Serreze, the fellow who in 2008 said here was a 50/50 chance the arctic would be ice-free that summer, isn't trying for tenure.

You fell for this garbage?

I don't think the ice has ever melted in the Arctic Walt.....have you ever seen it melt with your own eyes?

I know I have never been there to witness it, how many people actually do.

All these charts have been created by the people who want a one world government based on science fiction.

All those images of ice breaking off into the sea.....CGI....put it together man.

They make us believe it by putting negative ions into the air from big screen tv's, which effects our ability to reason.

When God returns, climatologists will be the first to burn....next will be Muslim's and then Jews.
 

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It is very clear that the average temperature and heat is gradually increasing at most places and countries; so what's about all this mild scratching on the solid rock of evidence?