This summer may see first ice-free North Pole

Grievous

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Growth and retreat. How does that happen in a warming world?



The blue line shows retreat.....a trend.




If that trend changes upwards over the same time period then I will side with you.


Same goes for temps, the trend is downward.


You can't pump C02 into the atmosphere and have it not be impactful....unless you don't believe in physics.


Greenhouse Gas Levels In Atmosphere Surged To New High In 2013, World Meteorological Organization Reports


I'm also not sure why skeptics think this will all come to a head in a few years, it won't.
 

Walter

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Ahh, poop. We've reached the nadir for this season and there's still millions of square kilometres of ice.
 

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Ahh, poop. We've reached the nadir for this season and there's still millions of square kilometres of ice.


I don't know much about the North Pole, but I think it will take a long hot summer to completely melt Greenland! -:)
 

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35,000 Walrus Converge On Alaska Beach As Sea Ice Retreats



An estimated 35,000 walrus have come ashore in record numbers on a beach in northwest Alaska for lack of better ground. As climate change warms the atmosphere, summer sea ice in the Arctic is diminishing, likely stranding these walrus from their preferred sea ice outposts. Arctic sea ice reached its lowest point this year in mid-September, and NASA reported it to be the sixth-lowest recorded since 1978.

The mass gathering of walrus was spotted on Saturday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s arctic marine mammal aerial survey. Andrea Medeiros, spokeswoman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, said walrus were first spotted on September 13 and have been moving on and off shore. Last week, around 50 walrus carcasses were spotted on the beach, the cause of death may have been a stampede. Unlike seals, walrus need breaks from swimming and tend to gather in groups.






35,000 Walrus Converge On Alaska Beach As Sea Ice Retreats | ThinkProgress
 

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35,000 Walrus Converge On Alaska Beach As Sea Ice Retreats



An estimated 35,000 walrus have come ashore in record numbers on a beach in northwest Alaska for lack of better ground. As climate change warms the atmosphere, summer sea ice in the Arctic is diminishing, likely stranding these walrus from their preferred sea ice outposts. Arctic sea ice reached its lowest point this year in mid-September, and NASA reported it to be the sixth-lowest recorded since 1978.

The mass gathering of walrus was spotted on Saturday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s arctic marine mammal aerial survey. Andrea Medeiros, spokeswoman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, said walrus were first spotted on September 13 and have been moving on and off shore. Last week, around 50 walrus carcasses were spotted on the beach, the cause of death may have been a stampede. Unlike seals, walrus need breaks from swimming and tend to gather in groups.






35,000 Walrus Converge On Alaska Beach As Sea Ice Retreats | ThinkProgress
Happens every year.
Walrus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Walruses do ground themselves every year. This seems to be the largest on record though. Recent peer-reviewed scineice by the USGS indicates that less sea ice is a contrbuting factor to this. Researchers in Russia have reported an increase in numbers sicne the mid-90s. Not surpising. Sea ice has declined quite mearkedly sicne 1979 (when satellite measuremeents began). You'd expect to see the ecosystem respond accordingly.
 

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What don't you understand about "record numbers" or "lack of sea ice"?

What lack of sea ice? The year that believers were basing their prediction on with much hand wringing and gloom and doom was 2008 . That is long since past and the arctic is still not ice free.
. Want to buy some ocean front property in Alberta?
 

Walter

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Ahh, poop. We've almost reached the nadir for this season and there's still millions of square kilometres of ice.
 

MHz

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Lets collect a lot of it and sell it in Mexico, cold water will draw a lot of people there, like the aged and almost dead anyway baby-boomers.

Seven summers have gone by and still there is ice. Damn Ye Ice!
Almost sounds like Indian lingo, many moons ago, as you say.

I think the time to start taking notice is when the winter ice is gone.
 

MHz

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Heavy Ice???, that is the time you move up from a D7 as the workhorse to a D10 as the daily driver.

Yall makin jokes about ice. Are you crazy. Remember snowgeddon.
Time to buy Zamboni shares.

It's gonna be a looooong coooold winter.
You just getting to this page? How big is that turbo leak in your combine? Aren't you going to be the Province that gives the wind speed to the ones in the States so they know how many hundred twisters to expect, . . . daily.