Probably, to guys like you it isn't but to guys like me...damn straight. Like L Gilbert I've put myself in danger to help others before and probably will do so again. Honestly, I can't understand why anybody wouldn't do it.
The Sad, Sad State of Canadian Masculinity
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Probably, to guys like you it isn't but to guys like me...damn straight. Like L Gilbert I've put myself in danger to help others before and probably will do so again. Honestly, I can't understand why anybody wouldn't do it.
Many police officers do that on a daily basis and yet almost everyone on here either hates them or thinks they are useless. Is the difference that they "get paid" and it's "their duty"? They live and breathe and have families just like you and me. We do indeed live in a sad world.
The reason so many hate them is because, like it or not, the low pay has not attracted as many qualified people. Consequently, police forces have been inundated with substandard applicants over the past few years. These substandard police officers will, of course, get all the bad press and will hurt the overall image. The Town of Bow Island gets lots of young cops, right out of depot. It stuns me when I see what passes as a police officer today. Even one RCMP Sergeant that is a close friend of mine tells me (off the record of course ;-)) about his concerns.
Many of the cop haters here just can't separate the good from the bad. It's much easier to lump everybody together. You see the same things on the political threads here where some people lump everybody on the political right together while others lump everybody on the political left together. I guess the world is an easier place to deal with if you view it in black and white.
It's not low pay. It's government quotas. How many people do 6 - 7 months of training and in 3 years earn over $70,000 a year? Quotas are a major problem. Up until just recently, a person in training was not given pay. Now they are so that should help somewhat. The new way of hiring has been to have a person not only debt free but with quite a large sum of money in the bank. On top of that, they never received any pay for the 6 months training. Now they are paid. Not a lot but they can squeak by. Hopefully this will bring about some viable candidates.
Almost everyone has tried marijuana these days. A young fellow I worked with was told to come back in a year because he owned up to smoking a few joints. They do a lie detector test now so you have to tell everything, down to the last detail. I'm not sure he should have made it in because he seemed to have an attitude problem. Said he has a brother in the force. Another couple of guys I work with were turned off by the long wait. Both of them are really good candidates. I've known them for almost two years so I have a pretty good idea. With all the conflict, maybe they will change some of the hiring policies.
Almost everyone has tried marijuana these days. A young fellow I worked with was told to come back in a year because he owned up to smoking a few joints. They do a lie detector test now so you have to tell everything, down to the last detail. I'm not sure he should have made it in because he seemed to have an attitude problem. Said he has a brother in the force. Another couple of guys I work with were turned off by the long wait. Both of them are really good candidates. I've known them for almost two years so I have a pretty good idea. With all the conflict, maybe they will change some of the hiring policies.
One good thing that can relate to instinctive reaction was on the plane during the 9/11 event where many of the passengers ganged up on the terrorists to stop more from dieing. What could of or would have happened if they hadn't? They did right and died along with everyone trying to save others.
They were heroes, and knowing their lives were ending either way!
They were heroes, and knowing their lives were ending either way!
Many things can be done in cramped quarters. The Chinese developed an entire martial art style specifically for cramped conditions, for instance. Besides, if the perp had enough room to stab and decapitate the boy, there'd be enough room to immobilize the creep
No it's not. The RCMP have been having a real problem attracting people in the last few years. Many police forces have. That is why they are on a big recruitment drive. It's just not that attractive of a job. I would'nt do it for 70k a year and I live where it's relatively cheap to live.
Quotas are a factor. They have hurt the image. The poor image has hurt recruitment...but ultimately, they need to make the job attractive to the right kind of people. It currently isn't.
Short-staffed RCMP relaxes recruitment rules
About 30 years ago in Montreal a 10 year old boy drowned in front of hundreds of spectators who did nothing. When asked why no one jumped in to help the boy, the reply was that the water was polluted. I'm not sure if masculinity is involved, the fact that no woman did either is just as inexcusable. It may boil down to the old syndrome "Let George do it"
Many things can be done in cramped quarters once you know what's going on. Most folks would be stunned stiff anyway.
I can't rememver which thread it was the other day where Sir Joe and myself had a brief discussion on Pickton, but I see bad news (in my opinion) mataerializing that Sir Joe and others may want to read. Sorry this is off topic but just couldn't find the spot to stick it in and maybe it does have something to do with lack of masculinity.........................Pickton convictions begin to unravel
Nope. They ride airplanes carrying terrorists.
That's a logical fallacy but it's funny. lol
People don't stand up because they don't know how. The tough mouthed video freaks all talk tough, and may even be tough if they are the ones with the weapon, but we don't know what to do if the other guy has a weapon. Maybe they should start selling games where the player is the hunted and is unarmed and has to stop some crooks. The kids may get their balls back.
You sir are talking noonsense. What you are saying is that you, unlike all the other cowards, would have jumped in there unarmed, and fought the maniac with the knife to save the others. I doubt that very much. Heroism in hindsight, after the fact, is pretty easy to come by. There were three guys who did their best to keep the armed maniac on the bus. These guys were heros of sorts bur probably not as good as Cannuck who would have flown in and saved everyone if he could have found his cape.
Hogwash!
Meanwhile this psychopath is cutting bits off the corpse and adding to the nightmare of the victim's parents. Ordinary decency should have dictated that the police shoot this crazy man as soon as possible.
Ordinary descency? Murder a man after the damage has been done? Yes lets all form an angry mob and let vigilante justice take its course.
The guy is dead, his parents grief isn't going to be any more or less because their child has been mangled for 10 minutes instead of 15 after his death.
Ordinary decency should have been this man being restrained and subdued by fellow passengers rather than them all fleeing for their own life.
Perhaps the passengers should go to the parents and explain why dozens people couldn't stop 1 pre-occupied man before he killed their child?