The Sad, Sad State of Canadian Masculinity

karrie

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With all due respect to those who have received award Karrie, why does it matter?

Yes I have used my First Aid several times and saved lives while "risking" mine to a limited extent without staying to receive the "Awards".

The men I've seen win awards were in situations where there was no simple walking away when it was through, because they were hauled off to the hospital for treatment of the injuries they received by helping. And if you'll notice, I also mentioned 'unsung heros' who never receive awards.
 

Zzarchov

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Just to shoot him.

The stopping the maniac is not as important as you who are a unique and valuable snowflake.

But a dead lump of meat is more valuable than the life of a troubled individual.

Vance Li has as much value as you do. And stopping him from hurting someone is important on two counts, him and the victim.

If you think people should value them and their loved ones above others, then why expect firemen to risk their lives to pull you out of a fire or wreck.

Why not just let you burn to death to keep themselves safe.

Its anti-social at the basest level.
 

Francis2004

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The men I've seen win awards were in situations where there was no simple walking away when it was through, because they were hauled off to the hospital for treatment of the injuries they received by helping. And if you'll notice, I also mentioned 'unsung heros' who never receive awards.

My apologies.. Fair enough.. :)
 

Cannuck

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If you think people should value them and their loved ones above others, then why expect firemen to risk their lives to pull you out of a fire or wreck.

Why not just let you burn to death to keep themselves safe.

Its anti-social at the basest level.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 

taxslave

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CTV.ca | Teens rescue mom, 3 kids from car sinking in ditch

"MEADOW LAKE, Sask. -- Three Saskatchewan teens are being hailed as heroes after rescuing a mother and three young children from a car that slid off a wet Saskatchewan highway into a water-filled ditch. RCMP say the young men, ages 18 and 19, didn't hesitate to jump into the icy water Saturday night after they saw the car sinking with four people inside.
The woman and all three kids, ages four to eight, were pulled to safety on a darkened secondary highway near Meadow Lake, Sask.
Police say the water was up to the car roof when they arrived on the scene and the young family escaped with only minor injuries.
So far, police have not released the names of any of those involved in the accident, including the rescuers.
But Sgt. Doug Coleman, an RCMP spokesman in Regina, says the quick-thinking actions of the three men likely saved lives in this case and their heroism may be formally acknowledged at some point."


Damned kids didn't follow the first rule of the Red Cross. They should lose their first aid certificates if they have them.
NO, you either still don't get it or your sense of humour is not up to our average IQ. The first thing is to establish if the scene is safe. That does not mean sit on your ass like a government union employee and wait for someone else to do the heavy lifting. It means don't rush in. You must make the scene safe first. As in remove the danger from the patient or the patient from the danger. It is basically a risk assessment but we don't wait for someone to do a study and a committee report. We go to work. This is where training and practice come in.
 

Cannuck

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NO, you either still don't get it or your sense of humour is not up to our average IQ. The first thing is to establish if the scene is safe. That does not mean sit on your ass like a government union employee and wait for someone else to do the heavy lifting. It means don't rush in. You must make the scene safe first. As in remove the danger from the patient or the patient from the danger. It is basically a risk assessment but we don't wait for someone to do a study and a committee report. We go to work. This is where training and practice come in.

What training and practice did these kids have? How did they stabilize the vehicle so fast? How did they measure the water temperature to determine if it was safe to enter the water or how long they could stay in? How did those kids know to put life lines and safety harnesses in their car for such an occasion?
 

#juan

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[quoting Zzarchov;Just to shoot him.

The stopping the maniac is not as important as you who are a unique and valuable snowflake.

But a dead lump of meat is more valuable than the life of a troubled individual.

Vance Li has as much value as you do. And stopping him from hurting someone is important on two counts, him and the victim.

Vince Li, after he had already killed one person, had no value until everyone on the bus was safe.

If you think people should value them and their loved ones above others, then why expect firemen to risk their lives to pull you out of a fire or wreck.

These people were passengers not firemen. They had no training. The best thing they could do was get everyone, including the women and children, the hell off the bus.
 

ironsides

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An incident happened on a bus that traumatized everyone who saw it, causing panic, The human body is not meant to see those things happen and even the bravest would have hesitated. There were no cowards there, only people. What happened, happened.
 

darkbeaver

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Excusing the men who ran*away - Mark Steyn Opinion - Macleans.ca



Mark Steyn - Macleans.ca

A nanny-state society without cojones.....this is what leads to such things as 4 cops tasering a helpless immigrant, entire towns bending to the will of a violent psychopath, as happenened in Mayerthorpe and on and on.

A tragedy.

Well we have the opinion of the people in this thread solidly behind safety and caution which indicates that you and not the meek and cautious represent the sad sad state of Canadian masculinity who have like yourself adopted a forigne gun toting rootin tootin knock em down and out persona of the seething swat team mentality of our allies the Yankeestanians.
You would have tripped over your giant balls and accidentally misfired your sniper rifle through the bus and half the passengers and the day care accross the street.
It will make great footage when you interfere with police biz and four pumped mounties work you into a new state of matter. :lol: