The proverbial "State "of the Nation

JLM

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Ocean Breeze said:
IF there are only a few thousand drug lords.......1.. what is stopping the law enforcement agencies from dealing with them.

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2. are you suggesting the troops go in and slaughter every one selling drugs , ???



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1. The inclination?
2. That would be a good start!

Ocean Breeze; 1. [B said:
What are the statistics about DRUG induced wreckless driving as compared with Alcohol induced wreckless driving??? [/B]

2. The tragic thing is that people do terrible things when NOT ON drugs or alcohol too.
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1. I don't care about the "statistics", neither one is an excuse for the other.

2. Absolutely, so why add to the tragedy with drugs and alcohol?

You've flapped away on here for far too long in your delusional world..............time to get with the program! :lol:
 
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Ocean Breeze said:
IF there are only a few thousand drug lords......... what is stopping the law enforcement agencies from dealing with them.

maybe, probably, guessing, and assuming about cultural habits ............is not a definative way of approaching the problem.

are you suggesting the troops go in and slaughter every one selling drugs , and everyone that is using drugs (not to mention other casualties of the slaughter ) and then hiope that you can still get along with Mexico ???



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What is the answer for Mexico, their troops and politicians are on the take by the cartels. Just what is the answer for the Mexican people who are being massacred daily? These cartels are so brazen that they come into the United States to ply their trade. We can only drive them back to the border, no such thing as hot pursuit into Mexico. Occasionally we do get lucky though. In this case, the cartels must be destroyed once and for all, they will never be destroyed completely, but enough to destroy their income.

By the way, marijuana is not the main problem, but trafficking in it also would be cut back. Go in destroy the cartels and their farming groups.

This war is worth going to the extreme of rendering the land sterile for a while.
 
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Ocean Breeze said:
The military is the wrong approach to something like drugs , just as it is the wrong approach to any ism....including terrorism. For everyone they kill, maim , and otherwise slaughter.......the more incentive they have to ;despise the US . And they (drug lords and their gangs ) will just keep outsmarting the troops every time. Just like they are ahead of the law now.
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Good point.. Maybe the US Feds ought to send money to the terrorists each and everytime that they fly a plane into a highrise or strap a bomb across their chest and detonate it in a crowded mall of children and families. Maybe they can send the cheques with a Hallmark card along with it that expresses their sorrow for being in that mall at the wrong time.

Fact is OB, you live in a fantasy world that is devoid of reality.
 
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captain morgan said:
Good point.. Maybe the US Feds ought to send money to the terrorists each and everytime that they fly a plane into a highrise or strap a bomb across their chest and detonate it in a crowded mall of children and families. Maybe they can send the cheques with a Hallmark card along with it that expresses their sorrow for being in that mall at the wrong time.

Fact is OB, you live in a fantasy world that is devoid of reality.
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Well, he's been told twice so far today, he may have a few "shingles" blocking the intake valve!
 
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5 Years After: Portugal's Drug Decriminalization Policy Shows Positive Results: Scientific American
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In Scientific American, no less.

Can't say I'm surprised, but I'm sure this will be ignored by most other governments.

"Now instead of being put into prison, addicts are going to treatment centers and they're learning how to control their drug usage or getting off drugs entirely," report author Glenn Greenwald, a former New York State constitutional litigator, said during a press briefing at Cato last week.
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Yup. Anyone who thought otherwise is a pretty deluded fogie.

Let's hope North America takes note. We have a better chance up in Canada, so I'm hoping Harper can shove the social conservatives aside and do the right thing.
 
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JLM said:
Yeah, it would just work out lovely with half the population stumbling around in a drug induced stupor. Legalizing just gives the impression it's all perfectly OK. Singapore doesn't have that problem.
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It would just work out lovely with half the population stumbling around in a drug induced stupor.

Like they ain't now:lol:
 
JLM

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petros said:
Drunk people are better people.
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Than whom? I have to admit I'm prejudiced when it comes to booze vs. drugs, but I may not be right! But I do think the worst aspect of drugs is much worse than the worst aspect of booze in most cases. At any rate SHOOT the drug lords, then legalize the drugs so they can be bought by prescription at the drug store.
 
Ocean Breeze

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the US can't be that broke considering what it has spent on human slaughter to date:



Cost of War in Iraq & Afghanistan
Total Cost of Wars Since 2001
$1,253,593,500,343
http://www.costofwar.com/

and this does not cover other regions it has been war -Kill - active.

Let's face it.........the only "life" that matters to them is the embryo as it will grow up to be a soldier (given other jobs are almost non existent ) and risk being killed " for america" . That is considered "noble " in some minds. Seems Rome and a few ;other previous empires had a similar attitude. Many years back. Empires have not changed all that much.


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No need to ask where all that money is going ........and it is NOT for the improvement of american lives -in country.
 
Ocean Breeze

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Secret Panel Can Order Americans Assassinated
Officials Say Process Will Remain a Secret


White House: Secret Panel Can Order Americans Assassinated -- News from Antiwar.com


bit by bit .......america is not "america" anymore. Not sure what she is or what she is turning into ....8O:-(




Anwar al-Awlaki's Extrajudicial Murder
The law on the use of lethal force by executive order is specific. This assassination broke it – that creates a terrifying precedent

By Michael Ratner

October 01, 20911 "The Guardian" -- Is this the world we want? Where the president of the United States can place an American citizen, or anyone else for that matter, living outside a war zone on a targeted assassination list, and then have him murdered by drone strike.

This was the very result we at the Center for Constitutional Rights and the ACLU feared when we brought a case in US federal court on behalf of Anwar al-Awlaki's father, hoping to prevent this targeted killing. We lost the case on procedural grounds, but the judge considered the implications of the practice as raising "serious questions", asking:

"Can the executive order the assassination of a US citizen without first affording him any form of judicial process whatsoever, based on the mere assertion that he is a dangerous member of a terrorist organisation?"

*Anwar al-Awlaki's Extrajudicial Murder:** Information Clearing House News
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