The 'Official' Quit Picking On Trump Thread

Who Hates Trump the Most?

  • Dumbocrats

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Reptilicans

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Broads

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Canadians

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32

JLM

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Now they're saying the Delegates don't vote until Dec. 19th. Smerconish said that.
Does that mean the campaigning will continue after Nov. 9th?
What an idiotic way of doing things!


That's always been the case- technically the individual voters don't select the winner "on paper"...............that is up to the electoral colleges who of course have always gone by the electorate's wishes so far but apparently they aren't obligated to. It's undoubtedly a system that is set up to put money in some bureaucrap's pockets................................AND PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT TRUMP! :) :) :)

So, if it is all an act, what kind of a President should we expect??? More rotten ideas and acts?? I anticipate the bombs lined up on the capital when the words goes out that the twits who think it is all an act, elect him!! When it becomes a joke to run for the highest office in the land of a country that is the most influential world-wide, I do not give the survival of our world much of a chance of getting beyond this next couple of decades.


I suppose you'd rather see sweet little Hillary in there!!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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It's okay. We all have bad days. :)
Do you think the Delegates should be bound to honor the popular vote? Or should they vote their own conscience?
They should be honor and legally bound. Nobody votes for an Elector, they vote for the Presidential candidate.

Here's a little Constitutional trivia for you. The Constitution only says the States shall select electors in a manner determined by the state legislature.

In other words, a state doesn't have to hold an election at all, the legislature can just appoint the electors for that state. New York did so until 1836, and in modern times, Hawaii in 1956 and Florida in 2000 threatened to do so.
 

Danbones

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Soros said Trump win the public vote by a land slide
...but, Hillary will be installed by the electoral college
 

davesmom

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They should be honor and legally bound. Nobody votes for an Elector, they vote for the Presidential candidate.

Here's a little Constitutional trivia for you. The Constitution only says the States shall select electors in a manner determined by the state legislature.

In other words, a state doesn't have to hold an election at all, the legislature can just appoint the electors for that state. New York did so until 1836, and in modern times, Hawaii in 1956 and Florida in 2000 threatened to do so.



Thank you for that information. I'm always interested to learn the hows and whys.
I have heard several reports that certain delegates are going to vote their conscience. It wouldn't surprise me if some of hem vote for future favors, either.

We have an American couple as friends and they cannot agree on the election. Strangely enough, she is for Trump and her husband is for Clinton. They have decided not to discuss it any more, go to the polls and not talk about how they voted.
I don't know what I would do if my husband and I disagreed like that. I think I would just say, 'yes dear, you're right' and then go and vote the way I wanted.
Not worth fighting over!
 

JLM

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Thank you for that information. I'm always interested to learn the hows and whys.
I have heard several reports that certain delegates are going to vote their conscience. It wouldn't surprise me if some of hem vote for future favors, either.

We have an American couple as friends and they cannot agree on the election. Strangely enough, she is for Trump and her husband is for Clinton. They have decided not to discuss it any more, go to the polls and not talk about how they voted.
I don't know what I would do if my husband and I disagreed like that. I think I would just say, 'yes dear, you're right' and then go and vote the way I wanted.
Not worth fighting over!


Sounds familiar- my wife and granddaughters are all for Crooked Hillary, but hey, what do they know? The B---- is as transparent as glass! :)
 

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darkbeaver

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Evangelical contortions to support Donald Trump are a travesty against Christianity



Many religious leaders are causing the destruction of religion itself. Why? Many have merged politics, religion, and capitalism as the definition of Christianity itself. It’s true that Pope Francis is attempting to reintroduce a lost morality, but he is only one man—and he may be too late to reach American Evangelicals.

Evangelicals contort themselves into knots to find justifications to vote for Donald Trump and consider him one of their own. Still, conservative radio personality Steve Deace described him as anathema to all their values in a piece he wrote warning Christian leaders about the hypocrisy of voting for Donald Trump.

Furthermore, the Scriptures make clear the qualifications for public office:

Moreover, look for able men from all the people, men who fear God, who are trustworthy and hate a bribe, and place such men over the people as chiefs of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties, and of tens.

There is simply no way to avoid the conclusion that Trump violates every syllable of these requirements.

Now that we’ve addressed the biblical case, what about the moral one?

Trump is a scam artist.
Trump is a gossip.
Trump is a slanderer.
Trump is a misogynist.
Trump is an adulterer.
Trump is a deceiver.
Trump is a liar.
Deace forgot to include the fact that Trump is an unfettered capitalist. To Donald Trump, capitalism is not a tool but an ideology, his religion. While it can serve us well as a tool when controlled, as a religion it is anathema to humanity.

But then, many evangelical pastors have validated capitalism as a God-sanctioned and divine economic decree.

David Hope, pastor of the Word of Life Church in Texas, wrote an essay in the Kingwood Observer that would give Pope Francis pause. The piece, titled “Jesus is not a socialist,” was an attempt not only to justify the severe inequities of unfettered capitalism, but to promote them.

Hope tried to justify an unequal pie with the following statement.

Capitalism is like the kingdom of God. Everyone has an opportunity to make it to the top, but there won’t be equal outcomes. When government tries to manufacture equal outcomes, it brings everyone down. As people concentrate on the sizes of the pieces of the pie, the pie just keeps getting smaller. All the pieces get smaller and equal outcomes are still not achieved.
His simplistic statement does not take into account that those with inherited or ill-gained capital have a built-in advantage that, barring redistribution through taxes or some other method, is unsustainable. Had Jesus seen the crowds as undeserving, he would have extracted the last pittance for his magical fish and bread.

David Hope then makes a very disingenuous statement based on today's reality.

Capitalism is the most compassionate system. Capitalism is the best way to reduce poverty. It gives every man a chance to succeed, and it promotes wealth into the hands of those who serve others and have a heart to give to those less fortunate.

It increases individual wealth, thus allowing individuals to give out of their increase. God has designed the needs of the poor to be met by Christians, not by the government. Government’s bureaucratic shuffling of wealth accomplishes nothing.
Where in the tenets of capitalism are humanity, compassion, and generosity mentioned? Does Donald Trump fit the profile? Has he empowered and enriched others? Or did he simply use others as commodities to support his lifestyle of legalized theft? The pastor pulled a verifiable lie out of the air to misinform those who view his statements as fact.

This form of thinking is prevalent throughout the evangelical realm in the United States. It has taken too long for the Christian class to speak up about the destruction unfettered capitalism renders on the poor, the environment, and the world structure. The beloved Pope blasted the door wide open with his justifiable attack.

But then there is always the next media darling, ready to justify a system of legalized theft and commoditized humanity. Dave Ramsey thinks it’s heresy not to see a biblical justification for the wealthy few. Why is it heresy, according to him? Because God owns it all. He simply anointed a select few as managers of the wealth. Dave Ramsey made some other rather strange statements.

“This is about when you do things biblical with money,” Ramsey said. “You will end up with the responsibility to manage money for the kingdom.” He says this with authority and a straight face. Has he forgotten the thousands of investment bankers, loan officers, and investors who got rich and remain rich by pilfering the middle class, even as they brought the world’s economy to collapse? Are those God’s money managers? Is it really heresy to call them all out?

Many on the right get perturbed when one points out that Donald Trump is their creation. He absorbed the dichotomy of the right’s ideology and became its personification. Yes, it is incoherent. Yes, it is self-oppositional. But that is the evangelical right, now an outgrowth of the Powell Manifesto. It’s the right as brought to you by Donald Trump—and it may mean the eventual demise of religion.




Evangelical contortions to support Donald Trump are a travesty against Christianity




Nothing Christian about Trump but he has deceived many far right delusionals into believing he represents biblical values.

Get some help Gopher, it's so sad to see you grovil.


Swim in dirt.

And you breath that stuff.
 

darkbeaver

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Beav, you've been sinking your head in night dirt if you believe the horseshtt that Dump is some kind of savior.

DUMP DON'T INTEREST ME AT ALL. i JUST THINK aMERICANS WOULD BE BETTER SERVED BY SOMEONE IN POSETION OF THIER FACALTIES. tHE WOMAN IS BRAIN DEAD. i WON'T TRY TO INBFLUANCE YOUR4 DEMOCRATIC RIGHT, i DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Now now, Cliffy, you are getting Catty. : )
So, what do you think of Trump's ethics? Let's forget his racism, sexism, and general creepiness for the moment, how 'bout his ethics?

Like the piano dealer he stiffed?

Like the window washer he stiffed?

Like his long track record of making contracts, getting the work done for him, then saying "I'll pay you something less than I agreed. If you don't like it, sue me."

Now, I'm sure you already have the reply screen up, and are a half-dozen lines into your screed on Clinton's ethics. Erase it. The question was about Trump's ethics. If your only answer is a tu quoque fallacy, don't embarrass yourself and bore me.