The 'Official' Quit Picking On Trump Thread

Who Hates Trump the Most?

  • Dumbocrats

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Reptilicans

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Broads

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Canadians

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
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davesmom

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Now the media is picking Trump apart for saying that Hillary Clinton's security detail should give up their guns and see how that works out.
They point out that Trump has the same armed guards around him that Clinton does. True, but Trump is not the one wanting guns banned; Clinton is.
I wonder, are reporters deliberately obtuse or can they really not understand the nuances?
 

taxslave

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Trumps new goal in life:


If caring about your country is a psychiatric disorder then He has one.

Now the media is picking Trump apart for saying that Hillary Clinton's security detail should give up their guns and see how that works out.
They point out that Trump has the same armed guards around him that Clinton does. True, but Trump is not the one wanting guns banned; Clinton is.
I wonder, are reporters deliberately obtuse or can they really not understand the nuances?

They are mostly all Clinton supporters.

Ford is shifting all North American small-car production from the U.S. to Mexico, CEO Mark Fields told investors today in Dearborn, even though its plans to invest in Mexico have become a lightning rod for controversy in this year's presidential election.

"Over the next two to three years, we will have migrated all of our small-car production to Mexico and out of the United States," Fields said.

Ford isn't the first automaker move small car production out of the U.S. as Mexico has become a mecca for new automotive industry investment and has surpassed Canada in annual automotive production.

Still, the news sparked a fresh round of criticism from Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump, who was in Flint on Wednesday.

"We shouldn’t allow it to happen. They’ll make their cars, they’ll employ thousands of people, not from this country and they’ll sell their car across the border," Trump said. "When we send our jobs out of Michigan, we’re also sending our tax base."

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles said earlier this year it will end production of all cars in the U.S. by the end of this year as it discontinues production of the Dodge Dart in Belvidere, Ill. and the Chrysler 200 in Sterling Heights, Michigan.

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Ford shifting all U.S. small-car production to Mexico

TRUMP is all for the working people. Nothing on the news about Obama or Clinton calling Ford out on the sellout.
 

Danbones

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You can't tell a set up when you see one?
(or was that the Hmmm? if so, so solly. )
Trump seems more about policy
that seems more Like a Clintonian tactic to me...

"Tribalism Fuels Orthodox Jews' Support for Trump
They risk becoming the Jewish version of the 'Alt-Right,' a community that champions its own ethnic interests even when the result is outright bigotry."
read more: Tribalism Fuels Orthodox Jews' Support for Trump - Opinion - Haaretz - Israel News Haaretz.com

On questions of Jewish opinions, Better a jewish source non?

lol
Trump Wants Wall, Hillary Wanted Fence
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ls-may-have-a-secret-fan-hillary-clinton.html
 

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An Oregon man faces a charge of disorderly conduct after police say he installed a large speaker on his rooftop and played a "pro-hatred" message on loop as a group rallied against hate crime at a nearby park.

Springfield police say the amplified message could be heard from blocks away

The suspect, Jimmy Marr, has attracted attention for years as a white supremacist and Holocaust denier. In 2009, the state recalled his personalized license plate after protesters at a neo-Nazi rally in southern Oregon complained about its anti-Semitic message.

He more recently drew attention by repainting the tailgate on his truck from "Jew Lies Matter" to "Trump: Do the White Thing."

Police say Marr told officers Thursday he was trying to get his message out.

Police: Oregon man blasts pro-hate message on loop to disrupt nearby rally | KATU
 

Danbones

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It's too bad but any anti apartheid message is considered pro hatred of Israel

Though it is Odd that Israel has a wall and don't you mention that though...
"Israeli Company That Helped Build Gaza’s Wall Is Less Sure About Donald Trump’s...
...AN ISRAEL-BASED SECURITY company that provided intrusion detection technology for the barrier between Israel and the Gaza Strip has offered to help Donald Trump secure the U.S. border...
...AN ISRAEL-BASED SECURITY company that provided intrusion detection technology for the barrier between Israel and the Gaza Strip has offered to help Donald Trump secure the U.S. border..."
https://theintercept.com/2016/08/05...-gazas-wall-is-less-sure-about-donald-trumps/

...and of course Colin Powell in an email confirmed Israel's nuclear proliferation, and as a result making every dime of welfare the US gives israel illegal, while the US starves.

Of course pointing that out is also anti semitic, as is pointing out Palestinians are the descendants of the original Hebrews, and who are also semites
 

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Arrived via e-mail from friend:

Trump & The Pope. !!
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Seeking a weekend break from his campaign rallies; Donald Trump jetted to his yacht, which was docked off the coast of Italy.

He invited Pope Francis and the press corps on board for a Saturday afternoon cruise. It was a rather windy day. The Pope's little hat, his zucchetto, was blown from his head and into the water.

A crewman began lowering a boat to retrieve the zucchetto. Trump told the crewman not to bother. Trump climbed down the yacht's ladder; walked across the waves, picked up the zucchetto; walked back to the yacht and handed it to the Pope.

The Pope and the press corps were amazed! Donald Trump could actually walk on water!

Speculation immediately began as to how ABC, CNN, NBC, The Washington Post and New York Times would report this miraculous event to the rest of the world.

The next morning the New York Times headline read . . . .
DONALD TRUMP CAN'T SWIM!!!

I figure the event more fiction than fact but the media massage purely factual.
 

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Evangelical contortions to support Donald Trump are a travesty against Christianity



Many religious leaders are causing the destruction of religion itself. Why? Many have merged politics, religion, and capitalism as the definition of Christianity itself. It’s true that Pope Francis is attempting to reintroduce a lost morality, but he is only one man—and he may be too late to reach American Evangelicals.

Evangelicals contort themselves into knots to find justifications to vote for Donald Trump and consider him one of their own. Still, conservative radio personality Steve Deace described him as anathema to all their values in a piece he wrote warning Christian leaders about the hypocrisy of voting for Donald Trump.

Furthermore, the Scriptures make clear the qualifications for public office:

Moreover, look for able men from all the people, men who fear God, who are trustworthy and hate a bribe, and place such men over the people as chiefs of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties, and of tens.

There is simply no way to avoid the conclusion that Trump violates every syllable of these requirements.

Now that we’ve addressed the biblical case, what about the moral one?

Trump is a scam artist.
Trump is a gossip.
Trump is a slanderer.
Trump is a misogynist.
Trump is an adulterer.
Trump is a deceiver.
Trump is a liar.
Deace forgot to include the fact that Trump is an unfettered capitalist. To Donald Trump, capitalism is not a tool but an ideology, his religion. While it can serve us well as a tool when controlled, as a religion it is anathema to humanity.

But then, many evangelical pastors have validated capitalism as a God-sanctioned and divine economic decree.

David Hope, pastor of the Word of Life Church in Texas, wrote an essay in the Kingwood Observer that would give Pope Francis pause. The piece, titled “Jesus is not a socialist,” was an attempt not only to justify the severe inequities of unfettered capitalism, but to promote them.

Hope tried to justify an unequal pie with the following statement.

Capitalism is like the kingdom of God. Everyone has an opportunity to make it to the top, but there won’t be equal outcomes. When government tries to manufacture equal outcomes, it brings everyone down. As people concentrate on the sizes of the pieces of the pie, the pie just keeps getting smaller. All the pieces get smaller and equal outcomes are still not achieved.
His simplistic statement does not take into account that those with inherited or ill-gained capital have a built-in advantage that, barring redistribution through taxes or some other method, is unsustainable. Had Jesus seen the crowds as undeserving, he would have extracted the last pittance for his magical fish and bread.

David Hope then makes a very disingenuous statement based on today's reality.

Capitalism is the most compassionate system. Capitalism is the best way to reduce poverty. It gives every man a chance to succeed, and it promotes wealth into the hands of those who serve others and have a heart to give to those less fortunate.

It increases individual wealth, thus allowing individuals to give out of their increase. God has designed the needs of the poor to be met by Christians, not by the government. Government’s bureaucratic shuffling of wealth accomplishes nothing.
Where in the tenets of capitalism are humanity, compassion, and generosity mentioned? Does Donald Trump fit the profile? Has he empowered and enriched others? Or did he simply use others as commodities to support his lifestyle of legalized theft? The pastor pulled a verifiable lie out of the air to misinform those who view his statements as fact.

This form of thinking is prevalent throughout the evangelical realm in the United States. It has taken too long for the Christian class to speak up about the destruction unfettered capitalism renders on the poor, the environment, and the world structure. The beloved Pope blasted the door wide open with his justifiable attack.

But then there is always the next media darling, ready to justify a system of legalized theft and commoditized humanity. Dave Ramsey thinks it’s heresy not to see a biblical justification for the wealthy few. Why is it heresy, according to him? Because God owns it all. He simply anointed a select few as managers of the wealth. Dave Ramsey made some other rather strange statements.

“This is about when you do things biblical with money,” Ramsey said. “You will end up with the responsibility to manage money for the kingdom.” He says this with authority and a straight face. Has he forgotten the thousands of investment bankers, loan officers, and investors who got rich and remain rich by pilfering the middle class, even as they brought the world’s economy to collapse? Are those God’s money managers? Is it really heresy to call them all out?

Many on the right get perturbed when one points out that Donald Trump is their creation. He absorbed the dichotomy of the right’s ideology and became its personification. Yes, it is incoherent. Yes, it is self-oppositional. But that is the evangelical right, now an outgrowth of the Powell Manifesto. It’s the right as brought to you by Donald Trump—and it may mean the eventual demise of religion.




Evangelical contortions to support Donald Trump are a travesty against Christianity




Nothing Christian about Trump but he has deceived many far right delusionals into believing he represents biblical values.
 

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Evangelical contortions to support Donald Trump are a travesty against Christianity




Trump is a scam artist.
Trump is a gossip.
Trump is a slanderer.
Trump is a misogynist.
Trump is an adulterer.
Trump is a deceiver.
Trump is a liar.
Deace forgot to include the fact that Trump is an unfettered capitalist. To Donald Trump, capitalism is not a tool but an ideology, his religion. While it can serve us well as a tool when controlled, as a religion it is anathema to humanity.


Yet, still the best choice of candidates to lead the U.S. for the next 4 years. Those traits listed are more honourable than Hillary's best traits. :) :) :)
 

davesmom

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Clinton vs. Trump = Pot calling kettle black.
Trump vs. Clinton = Kettle calling pot black,
But Clinton LOVES black more than Trump (so she says). Therefore the Pot is 'blacker'. :)
 

bluebyrd35

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Yet, still the best choice of candidates to lead the U.S. for the next 4 years. Those traits listed are more honourable than Hillary's best traits. :) :) :)
Are you mad?? Good lord, that man treats the rest of the world with contempt. Children, veterans, women, blacks, Mexicans, students and anyone who disagrees with giving Donald the right to rob anyone he chooses. Anyone who points this out to him is deserving of scorn & verbal abuse. Why would anyone even believe he wouldn't treat the country as if it were the biggest bank (chicken ready for plucking). for his personal use.?
 

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Are you mad?? Good lord, that man treats the rest of the world with contempt. Children, veterans, women, blacks, Mexicans, students and anyone who disagrees with giving Donald the right to rob anyone he chooses. Anyone who points this out to him is deserving of scorn & verbal abuse. Why would anyone even believe he wouldn't treat the country as if it were the biggest bank (chicken ready for plucking). for his personal use.?

 

JLM

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Are you mad?? Good lord, that man treats the rest of the world with contempt. Children, veterans, women, blacks, Mexicans, students and anyone who disagrees with giving Donald the right to rob anyone he chooses. Anyone who points this out to him is deserving of scorn & verbal abuse. Why would anyone even believe he wouldn't treat the country as if it were the biggest bank (chicken ready for plucking). for his personal use.?


That's just all part of an act. There's likely a method to his madness. Nov. 9 will tell.
 

davesmom

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That's just all part of an act. There's likely a method to his madness. Nov. 9 will tell.



Now they're saying the Delegates don't vote until Dec. 19th. Smerconish said that.
Does that mean the campaigning will continue after Nov. 9th?
What an idiotic way of doing things!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Now they're saying the Delegates don't vote until Dec. 19th. Smerconish said that.
Does that mean the campaigning will continue after Nov. 9th?
What an idiotic way of doing things!
No, it means that the election on Nov. 8 selects the electors of the Electoral College, who will then cast their votes.
I'm sure you think it idiotic, your opinion of all things American is quite well known. But let's not pretend this is some new, nefarious trick dreamed up by the Democrats. It is the Constitutional process that has been in place since 1787.
 

davesmom

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No, it means that the election on Nov. 8 selects the electors of the Electoral College, who will then cast their votes.
I'm sure you think it idiotic, your opinion of all things American is quite well known. But let's not pretend this is some new, nefarious trick dreamed up by the Democrats. It is the Constitutional process that has been in place since 1787.




That's not fair, sir! I love the United States, have spent a lot of time there and consider it our 'Big Brother'.
I know about the Electoral College, but I am not familiar with all of your governmental procedures. I just wonder why the long delay between Nov. 9th and Dec. 19th. Will there be another period of campaigning directed toward the Delegates?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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That's not fair, sir! I love the United States, have spent a lot of time there and consider it our 'Big Brother'.
I know about the Electoral College, but I am not familiar with all of your governmental procedures. I just wonder why the long delay between Nov. 9th and Dec. 19th. Will there be another period of campaigning directed toward the Delegates?
No, there won't. In most elections, it's a done deal, and the electors are committed anyway.

In the old days, it gave the electors time to get to Washington from their states. Nowadays, it gives time to check challenges and problems before the election is finalized.

I do apologize for my surly tone. I'm having a bad day. No reason to take it out on you. Sorry.
 

davesmom

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Tecumsehsbones;2348433 I do apologize for my surly tone. I'm having a bad day. No reason to take it out on you. Sorry.[/QUOTE said:
It's okay. We all have bad days. :)
Do you think the Delegates should be bound to honor the popular vote? Or should they vote their own conscience?
 

bluebyrd35

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That's just all part of an act. There's likely a method to his madness. Nov. 9 will tell.
So, if it is all an act, what kind of a President should we expect??? More rotten ideas and acts?? I anticipate the bombs lined up on the capital when the words goes out that the twits who think it is all an act, elect him!! When it becomes a joke to run for the highest office in the land of a country that is the most influential world-wide, I do not give the survival of our world much of a chance of getting beyond this next couple of decades.