The Election Of The Greatest Con-Man In Recent History

[Stretch]

America Is Led And Informed By Liars​

'Does anyone remember all the lies that they were told by President Bush and the “mainstream media” about the grave threat to America from weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? These lies were repeated endlessly in the print and TV media despite the reports from the weapons inspectors, who had been sent to Iraq, that no such weapons existed. ​

The weapons inspectors did an honest job in Iraq and told the truth, but the mainstream media did not emphasize their findings. Instead, the media served as a Ministry of Propaganda, beating the war drums for the US government. Now the whole process is repeating itself. This time the target is Iran. As there is no real case against Iran, Obama took a script from Bush’s playbook and fabricated one.​

       Another War in the Works            : Information Clearing House - ICH

 

[SirJosephPorter]

if it were me I'd say "fine, show it, I got nothing to hide, lets get this trivial crap behind us" ..... and I'd assume he doesnt either, so I dont see the problem.......after all, how many times do we have to show our id to "them"?

Trivial crap, Stretch? Surely you jest. There is no way to get this ‘trivial crap’ behind, the birthers hate Obama with a passion, they will use any means, fair or foul to get him out of the office (you may be familiar with Facebook poll asking if Obama should be assassinated).

Suppose he produced the long birth certificate, what do you think will happen? The moment it is produced, it will be declared a forgery. Many birth certificates have tiny, slight inconsistencies, those will be magnified out of all proportion, claims will be made that the certificate is false.

Suppose there are no inconsistencies, the certificate is perfect, showing that Obama was born in Hawaii. That in itself will be a cause for suspicion. Why is the certificate so perfect, why not even a single tiny inconsistency? That will be the case for declaring the certificate a forgery.

Either way, it will be declared a forgery, birthers will claim that by now it has been established beyond any doubt that Obama is not a US citizen. They will call for release of more information (much more), there will be calls for arrest and deportation of Obama.

Birthers are not in it to find out if Obama is a US citizen, they are in it to get Obama out of office, by fair means or foul.

Birther movement is racist at heart, they cannot stand the thought of a black man being in the White House. No amount of information released by Obama, no mater how convincing, will convince the birthers.

Obama is handling it just right. He released his birth certificate, most reasonable people were satisfied with it. Now he has hired a bunch of high priced attorneys and they are dealing effectively with the birther hate mongers, these nut cases.

Since birthers belong to the Republican base, they are an embarrassment to the Republican Party.

 

[petros]

Since birthers belong to the Republican base, they are an embarrassment to the Republican Party.

It has nothing to do with parties. The world isn't about right and left. Do you really believe he got as far as he did in politics without this being thoroghly investigated long long ago by Republicans and See Eye A?

Do you believe a candiates background really matters anymore?

If you dig into the woodpiles of all the past presidents and used that to gauge who they are then there is truth in saying GW Bush is a Nazi like his grandfather.

If you really dig into the woodpile the main question that would arise is "Why are all these guys related'?

 

[TenPenny]

fine.....why the need to lock it away.....where's the "change", he has to be aware of the birth cert thingy......if it were me I'd say "fine, show it, I got nothing to hide, lets get this trivial crap behind us" ..... and I'd assume he doesnt either, so I dont see the problem.......after all, how many times do we have to show our id to "them"?

I thought that his birth certificate was released, and therefore there is no issue.

This whole controversy is simply made up silliness, on the part of people who are upset because 'their guy' lost the election.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

When it comes to birthers, it is a left/right issue, Petros. How many let wingers do you see questioning Obama’s birth? I don’t know of any.

And they are an embarrassment to the Republican Party. Republicans cannot afford to alienate them, they are the ones who are going to campaign for the Republican candidate, stuff the envelopes, ring the door bells etc. At the same time, they cannot be seen to be associated to openly with the birther nuts, they lose credibility that way.

So you may have noticed, even the normal Obama haters, like Rush ‘drug addict’ Limbaugh, or the website Town Hall are silent on the subject. Most Republican operatives have probably been told by the party to ignore the birthers, while not openly criticizing them.

 

[Cliffy]

If you really dig into the woodpile the main question that would arise is "Why are all these guys related'?

Political inbreeding? It's like the ruling elite have a breeding program on some island where they produce political leaders from incubators. The only change the US got in the last election was the colour of his skin. I see nothing that differentiated Obama from Bush or Clinton. Its like they figured out how to clone people with different outer shells. They used the same molds for Harper and Campbell.

 

[ironsides]

I thought that his birth certificate was released, and therefore there is no issue.

This whole controversy is simply made up silliness, on the part of people who are upset because 'their guy' lost the election.

There is no birth certificate issue, Obama had to submit all those papers when he announced his intention to run for President as everyone has to do. Just people trying to create another conspiracy to talk about.

 

[ironsides]

Political inbreeding? It's like the ruling elite have a breeding program on some island where they produce political leaders from incubators. The only change the US got in the last election was the colour of his skin. I see nothing that differentiated Obama from Bush or Clinton. Its like they figured out how to clone people with different outer shells. They used the same molds for Harper and Campbell.

Yea, yea that is what they are doing yea. Same molds for everyone everywhere. Looks like it is happening here also. (not directed at you)

 

[Kakato]

Wow! 2 pages in and stretch allready bangs off a Godwin and blames the Joos.

Pretty easy to see what your agenda is,seek help.
Your worse then a spammer.

 

[JBG]

When it comes to birthers, it is a left/right issue, Petros. How many let wingers do you see questioning Obama’s birth? I don’t know of any.

I do not like Obama. However, I don't care if he was born here or not. There is no enforcement mechanism to bounce him from office even if he was born in Kenya. Also, I think that provision of the Constitution is silly.

 

[Kreskin]

Why is it that some people distrust anything except islamist terrorists and conspiracy bloggers? I'm losing a lot of faith in people (not leaders).

 

[ironsides]

If President Obama was ever found to be a foreign born which I don't believe for one second, he would be immediately removed from office and Biden would become President.

 

[L Gilbert]

Why is it that some people distrust anything except islamist terrorists and conspiracy bloggers? I'm losing a lot of faith in people (not leaders).

Because of ignorance mostly.
Hope for the best but expect the worst in people, Kreskin. You're rarely disappointed in them that way.

 

[L Gilbert]

If President Obama was ever found to be a foreign born which I don't believe for one second, he would be immediately removed from office and Biden would become President.

That was my impression.

 

[ironsides]

Time for a chuckle. Let us not forget our friend.
Achmed The DEAD Terrorist R.I.P.

 

[Risus]

If President Obama was ever found to be a foreign born which I don't believe for one second, he would be immediately removed from office and Biden would become President.

That would be scary...

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I do not like Obama. However, I don't care if he was born here or not. There is no enforcement mechanism to bounce him from office even if he was born in Kenya. Also, I think that provision of the Constitution is silly.

You have a point there, there is no controlling authority. Who decides if he is eligible to be the President? I would think it would be the responsibility of the election officers when the papers are filed for the nomination.

Other than that, I don’t see who else can decide it. Courts get involved in everything, so I assume courts would have the authority to decide. But seeing that Supreme Court refused to get involved (birthers have already filed several cases with the Supreme Court and lost), I don’t’ see that happening.

 

[ironsides]

That would be scary...

Sure would. :lol:

 

[Colpy]

You have a point there, there is no controlling authority. Who decides if he is eligible to be the President? I would think it would be the responsibility of the election officers when the papers are filed for the nomination.

Other than that, I don’t see who else can decide it. Courts get involved in everything, so I assume courts would have the authority to decide. But seeing that Supreme Court refused to get involved (birthers have already filed several cases with the Supreme Court and lost), I don’t’ see that happening.

Obviously, if he were found to have been born in Kenya, his ascension to the post of President was fraudulent, and he would be impeached. That is what the Congress is for......

But first the idiot "Birthers" have to prove he was born in Kenya, which will not happen.

BTW, there was a President that served two full terms that was not born in the USA......and was not qualified to hold the post. Anyone know who?????

 

[FiveParadox]

My research can only result in The Honourable Chester Arthur, 21st President of the United States, but he only served one term.