The death of personal responsibility

JLM

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Amazing how stupidity reigns.


It is illegal to sell or give away used car seats because there is no way of knowing if that car seat has been in an accident. Do you all understand that or are ya,s all too dense?

It has nothing to do with newer seats being "safer", and if you idiots had done your research before you all started mouthing off you would know the reasons.

Is there anyone besides yourself, Gerry, who is not an idiot?
 

CDNBear

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Has anyone here ever gone to a flea market and noted razor blades on sale at a very low price?
Not particularly. But I have seen lawn darts.

I love lawn darts so much, I bought them. My sons have played with them for years. We're all still alive.

If an accident occurred, it would be my fault, not the vendors.
 

JLM

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Is buy a used car seat any riskier than buying a used car? How many cars built in the 80s and 90s since have been deemed to have unsafe features?
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Not particularly. But I have seen lawn darts.

I love lawn darts so much, I bought them. My sons have played with them for years. We're all still alive.

If an accident occurred, it would be my fault, not the vendors.

If the nanny state is so concerned, they should make it illegal to BUY a crib or car seat from anybody who isn't a licensed retailer. If there is a problem, it automatically becomes the buyers fault, not the sellers.

It's not rocket science. Don't look for deals on stuff that counts. Or as you said buyer beware.
 

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Is buy a used car seat any riskier than buying a used car? How many cars built in the 80s and 90s since have been deemed to have unsafe features?

If you were buying a used car would you take it for an inspection by a mechanic?
 

JLM

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If you were buying a used car would you take it for an inspection by a mechanic?

How many do? Would that guarantee its safety? Is that usually done for safety reasons or to ensure reliable operation?

If the nanny state is so concerned, they should make it illegal to BUY a crib or car seat from anybody who isn't a licensed retailer. If there is a problem, it automatically becomes the buyers fault, not the sellers.

It's not rocket science. Don't look for deals on stuff that counts. Or as you said buyer beware.

Quite often licenses only ensure there has been some contact with a bureaucrat. I have a drivers license, which I qualified for 50 years ago and no one has EVER checked that I still qualify at any time since! :lol:
 

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How many do? Would that guarantee its safety? Is that usually done for safety reasons or to ensure reliable operation?



Quite often licenses only ensure there has been some contact with a bureaucrat. I have a drivers license, which I qualified for 50 years ago and no one has EVER checked that I still qualify at any time since! :lol:

Yes I have heard reports about your driving. Time to slow down
 

Just the Facts

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Amazing how stupidity reigns.


It is illegal to sell or give away used car seats because there is no way of knowing if that car seat has been in an accident. Do you all understand that or are ya,s all too dense?

It has nothing to do with newer seats being "safer", and if you idiots had done your research before you all started mouthing off you would know the reasons.

In light of JLM's post about original intended use, wouldn't it be far less dense to change the law to read that it's illegal to BUY or ACCEPT used car seats for use AS car seats? I can think of numerous things to do with a used child car seat that wouldn't even involve disassembling it for parts.

Not particularly. But I have seen lawn darts.

I love lawn darts so much, I bought them. My sons have played with them for years. We're all still alive.

If an accident occurred, it would be my fault, not the vendors.

Yeah lawn darts were a hoot. Never killed anyone....took out more than my fair share of screen doors and window screens though. :)
 

Goober

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In light of JLM's post about original intended use, wouldn't it be far less dense to change the law to read that it's illegal to BUY or ACCEPT used car seats for use AS car seats? I can think of numerous things to do with a used child car seat that wouldn't even involve disassembling it for parts.



Yeah lawn darts were a hoot. Never killed anyone....took out more than my fair share of screen doors and window screens though. :)

Lawn darts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

damngrumpy

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Yes yard sales have their place, screen doors and hundreds of other items that
pose no real problem for public safety are bought and sold every weekend.
Nothing wrong with that at all, however things like cribs, playpens and car seats
can pose a problem especially the ones that were not safe to begin with, another
area is little kids or infant toys that were splashed with lead paint. They might be
fine for collectors but not for children to actually play with. I think is comes down
to common sense and personal responsibility.
It is not the end of the world in some cases when you purchase something, but
what if you are on the lake with life jackets that don't meet the Canadian Standards?
If you fall in they might work fine, but if the police get you in are in for a hell of a fine.
 

damngrumpy

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Nanny State or not if you are found responsible you get to talk to a lot of lawyers
and the chance to contribute to someone Else's retirement plan in the form of
contribution through legal action.
If we can't have a bloody yard sale though life is fencing us in by our own inaction.
We are just giving in to all kinds of things CDNBear I agree with part of what you
are saying, but the legal aspect must also be considered.
I plan a yard sale in a few years when I'm finished with farming, can't even imagine
not having one. I have so much stuff to dispose of everything from equipment to
old metal gas cans from decades ago. Oh better watch out there is no government
writing on those, they would not likely meet the Canadian Standard for use but a
collector would like to have them I am sure.
 

CDNBear

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Nanny State or not if you are found responsible you get to talk to a lot of lawyers
and the chance to contribute to someone Else's retirement plan in the form of
contribution through legal action.
If we can't have a bloody yard sale though life is fencing us in by our own inaction.
We are just giving in to all kinds of things CDNBear I agree with part of what you
are saying, but the legal aspect must also be considered.
I plan a yard sale in a few years when I'm finished with farming, can't even imagine
not having one. I have so much stuff to dispose of everything from equipment to
old metal gas cans from decades ago. Oh better watch out there is no government
writing on those, they would not likely meet the Canadian Standard for use but a
collector would like to have them I am sure.
If you have any of the old "Jerry Can" style, I'll take them off your hands right now.
 

taxslave

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How many do? Would that guarantee its safety? Is that usually done for safety reasons or to ensure reliable operation?



Quite often licenses only ensure there has been some contact with a bureaucrat. I have a drivers license, which I qualified for 50 years ago and no one has EVER checked that I still qualify at any time since! :lol:

I bet most of us would fail if forced to repeat the test.
Funny how the bureaucraps control these things. I have to have a medical every few years for a class 1 license, repeat forklift and manlift and TDG every couple of years but never the drivers license.