If any jackass (and you know who you are) ever comes and claims that conservatives are hypocrites, proves that their view of reality or their idea of honesty is greatly flawed.
The Carbon Footprints of Al Gore & George Bush, etc...
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I'm with YJ on this one. Gore, Suzuki et al are at the top of the hypocrisy ladder. Carbon offsets are a scam and Gore has made billions promoting them. One of the local puddle jumper airlines claims to be carbon neutral because they planted a tree somewhere. When they can fly a plane with no gas they will be carbon neutral and not before.
Maybe not billions.. but...
Generation Investment Management Llp
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Generation Investment Management Llp
Al Gore Chairman
www.generationim.com
Yup! The ol' slight of hand trick. Point at that guy over there so nobody notices what a screw up you are. Al Gore makes a great scape goat for those who don't want to help out. Who cares what Al Gore is doing? What are you willing to do?
We are still capitilists aren't we? If it were anyone else's idea you'd say he was living the American dream by finding a way to motivate clean energy and make a damn good buck doing it in a way the people seem to approve of.
I think that is the crux of people's complaint about Gore or Suzuki is their success and notoriety not for what they accomplished in the past but how they financially capable of makes the changes need to go green and making us feel ****ty about it. I ****ing hate being guilted into **** especially when costs a bundle. Guilt is just as bad as the fear sold about boogie men from places that smell like they sound.
It ain't cheap but will get cheaper now that Harper killed the EcoEnergy program that is creating ****loads of jobs, adding value to the housing market and giving the govt credit to sell on the carbon credit exchange.
Killing that program took away the gouge factor that govt grants provide. The industry is well underway and backlogged. The cuts will stimulate competition between retrofit contractors..
Some of them probably are. Others are not. Not all offsets are created equally.
That makes no sense at all. If they fly a plane with no gas at all, it wouldn't be carbon neutral, it would be carbon free. Carbon neutral is generally accepted to mean that the activity which generates carbon is accompanied by an equal amount of offsets or sequestration. It's like an accountants ledger, debits and credits.
Gore (and to an extent) Suzuki are perceived as "making the market" in which they sought to take a first mover advantage. Based on the manner in which they have structured their position (Gore mostly), they are manipulating the markets to their favour in an unethical and amoral manner... Their contradictory lifestyles are but icing on the cake.
As far as Carbon trading is concerned, what does it accomplish? It increases the cost of doing business and the consequent cost products/services to the public. It does not actually decrease the amount of ghg's produced - just where they are produced.
Carbon trading is indeed a scam but currently a scam that could make our govt some serious cha ching. The money invested by grants is easily recovered with the sale of the credits created from retrofitting and gives added value to the home markets.
It's is silly not to utilize the opportunity of income if it is there.
For those who support the Cap and Trade idea:
Will Cap and Trade reduce the total amount of the so-called "harmful" greenhouse gasses (on which plants of all kinds flourish)?
Or is excess amount of CO2 is only bad if it was produced by people and companies who actually contribute something to the well-being of people?
Will Cap and Trade reduce the total amount of the so-called "harmful" greenhouse gasses (on which plants of all kinds flourish)?
Or is excess amount of CO2 is only bad if it was produced by people and companies who actually contribute something to the well-being of people?
Yup. Schwarzenneger was a hypocrite a while back when he was driving around in one of his 5 Humvees and telling people to get used to $1 a gallon fuel price and if they didn't like it, they should quit using so much fuel anyway because it's bad for the air. I think I read somewhere that he did something about the 8 MPG Humvees fuel consumption.
If people like Suzuki, Gore, and others are hypocrites, it isn't because they preach ecosense and do the opposite, it's because they preach carbon credits are good, and don't subscribe to the idea themselves. I doubt anyone here can prove anything one way or the other.
No no, the ones you have found.
Since you think SJP is a total jackass and you won't find many arguments about that, lets have your own examples.
Plants do not consciously control how much CO² or O² they release; we can control ours.
What's funny?
Is in any thread concerning the enviroment, the denier crowd will toss out the names of Gore and Suzuki like it's some sort of trump card.
No one here is defending either one of them, Suzuki is a biologist and Gore is a politicain either has anything to do with climatology.
Tripling the tax rates or expropriating people's assets would also make the government a killing.