Terrorism and America’s “Way of Life”

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by Jacob G. Hornberger

In a press conference yesterday about Faisal Shahzad, the Pakistani-American who allegedly tried to blow up the car bomb in Times Square, Attorney General Eric Holder stated, “The reality that there is a constant threat from those who wish to do us harm simply because of our way of life.”

We haven’t yet heard any public statements from Shahzad himself. But my hunch is that the “way of life” that allegedly motivated him has to do with what the U.S. government has been doing to people in the Middle East.

Consider Iraq, a country that never attacked the United States or even threatened to do so. How many Iraqi citizens have been killed and maimed in the U.S. government’s invasion and occupation of that country? While the estimates range from a hundred thousand to a million, actually no American can answer that question with any degree of certainty. The reason? Early on, the U.S. government announced that while it would keep track of the number of U.S. soldiers killed and injured, it would not do the same with Iraqis. They just weren’t important enough.

Moreover, consider the cavalier attitude toward Iraqis that U.S. officials have maintained ever since those infamous WMDs failed to materialize. Their attitude has been this: that any number of deaths of Iraqi people are worth bringing democracy to Iraq.

Indeed, consider the fact that not one single Iraqi who was tortured, raped, sexually abused, and incarcerated at Abu Ghraib had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11. Every one of those victims was innocent of that crime.

But it’s all justified under the notion that we’re bringing democracy to your country.

Isn’t that nice? We will invade your country and kill you, your spouse, your children, your parents, or your friends and neighbors, but actually you should be grateful for our performing this service for you because in the long run your nation will have democracy, which is beautiful.

And get this: there has never been an upward limit on the number of Iraqis who could be killed in the pursuit of this illustrious goal. No number of Iraqi deaths and injuries could ever be considered too high, given the benefits of democracy.

How nice. How cavalier.

This Bush-Obama attitude toward Iraqi life was no different during the Clinton administration, when the brutal sanctions were being enforced against Iraq for more than 10 long years. When Clinton’s Ambassador to the UN Madeleine Albright was asked in 1996 (five years before the sanctions expired) whether the deaths of half-a-million Iraqi children from the sanctions were “worth it,” she replied that they were “worth it.” Her reply perfectly encapsulated the mindset of U.S. officials, both then and now.

Perhaps it’s just a coincidence that the Times’ square attempted bombing took place after the U.S. government’s repeated acts of assassination in Pakistan, but I doubt it. My hunch is that there is as much anger over those assassinations as there was during the time that those brutal sanctions were killing all those Iraqi children.

The U.S. government justifies the assassinations by saying that the people they’re targeting are “terrorists.” But how many of those people who they’ve assassinated had anything to do with 9/11, which, let us not forget, was the purported reason for invading Afghanistan in the first place. We don’t know the answer to that question because the U.S. government won’t answer questions on its assassination program. But my hunch is that 99 percent of the people they’ve assassinated in Pakistan had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 and that the only reason they were labeled “terrorists” is because they were opposing the foreign occupation of Afghanistan, a neighboring country, just as the U.S. government, working with Osama bin Laden and others, were trying to end the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan during the 1980s.

In fact, my hunch is that 99 percent of the people they’ve killed and maimed in Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11 and are simply considered “terrorists” because they oppose the foreign occupation of their country.

Moreover, notwithstanding the standard apologies that are issued after wives, children, grandparents, friends, and neighbors are killed in those drone assassinations in Pakistan or in the military attacks in Afghanistan, any reasonable person can surely understand why such deaths have served to swell the ranks of would-be terrorists, especially when such “collateral damage” is calculated in advance of the attacks to be worth it.

Supporters of the death and destruction in Afghanistan and Pakistan repeat the old canard that the Taliban gave sanctuary to Osama bin Laden and, therefore, that all this death and destruction is justified to keep the Taliban from returning to power. But there are big problems with that claim.

One, the U.S. government has never provided one iota of proof that the Taliban and al Qaeda conspired to commit the 9/11 attacks. Let’s not forget, after all, that some of the 9/11 hijackers were living in Saudi Arabia and, well, also here in the United States, before the attacks. In other words, the simple fact that a suspected terrorist is living in a particular country prior to an attack doesn’t necessarily mean that the government of that country has conspired with the terrorist to commit the attack.

Two, before attacking Afghanistan the Bush administration asked the Taliban to unconditionally extradite bin Laden to the United States. If the Taliban had actually participated in the 9/11 attacks, would Bush have bothered to make such a request?

Three, prior to his invasion of Afghanistan Bush was negotiating with the UN Security Council to give him permission to invade Afghanistan. Would he have done that if he had proof that the Taliban had participated in the 9/11 attacks?

Let’s face the truth: U.S. troops are killing and injuring people in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, not out of a sense of justice for 9/11 but simply out of the long-term U.S. foreign policy of installing and maintaining U.S.-favored rulers in foreign regimes. And it doesn’t matter whether the regime is totalitarian, democratic, authoritarian, or whatever. All that matters is that U.S. foreign policy dictates that it be a U.S-approved regime.

That’s what Holder undoubtedly is referring to when he says that terrorists want to do us harm because of “our way of life” — a “way of life” that involves empire, interventionism, sanctions, embargoes, invasions, occupations, torture, bombings, foreign aid, support of dictatorships, and assassinations.

As long as Americans permit their government to pursue such an immoral, cruel, brutal, destructive, and hypocritical “way of life,” they had better come to terms with the virtual certainty that there will be victims of this “way of life” who will do their best to retaliate.
 

Liberalman

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America can deal with bike and drug wars on their streets where murder is the norm but for some reason they are afraid of murdurs if it's terrorist related.

That's American for you.
 

DaSleeper

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JBeee .....You have either lost your touch......or someone else has stolen your thunder as a single agenda poster......but I'm not naming names:lol::lol::lol:
 

JLM

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I think a lot of the terrorism got started long before the U.S. got into the act. Did the U.S. have anything to do with the terrorism in Iran while Carter was in office. Did the U.S. have anything to do with Saddam gassing the Kurds or the brutal regime of Idi Amin, or the bombing of the plane at Lockerbie Scotland or any of the shenanigans of Moamar Kadaffy? What about Iraq's invasion of Kuwait or Saddam torching the oil wells? While the U.S.'s record isn't lily white, blame also lies elsewhere. Maybe the W.M.D.s were a hoax, but Saddam used them before so would it be reasonable to assume he wouldn't be using them again?
 

Icarus27k

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When Clinton’s Ambassador to the UN Madeleine Albright was asked in 1996 (five years before the sanctions expired) whether the deaths of half-a-million Iraqi children from the sanctions were “worth it,” she replied that they were “worth it.” Her reply perfectly encapsulated the mindset of U.S. officials, both then and now.

Wouldn't the officials from the United States, China, USSR, United Kingdom, France, Canada, Cote d'Ivoire, Colombia, Ethiopia, Finland, Malaysia, Romania, and Zaire be more to blame for believing the sanctions were worth it?

Source: United Nations Security Council Resolution 661 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Icarus27k

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A big problem I see with the logic of the article is that last paragraph, equating Americans as a whole with the US government. The way the article puts it, Americans have "permit[ted]" their government to invade Iraq, omit Iraqi deaths, and allow Drone attacks in Afghanistan/Pakistan. There's many degrees of seperation between an American who might be victim to a terrorist attack and the US government.
 

Icarus27k

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I get the sense the author of the article himself is American, and if so, he's a perfect example of several Americans I know that articulate condemnations of their government's actions. So I wouldn't really say an American who critiques the Iraq War or drone attacks like that permits their government to take those actions.
 

Bar Sinister

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I think a lot of the terrorism got started long before the U.S. got into the act. Did the U.S. have anything to do with the terrorism in Iran while Carter was in office. Did the U.S. have anything to do with Saddam gassing the Kurds or the brutal regime of Idi Amin, or the bombing of the plane at Lockerbie Scotland or any of the shenanigans of Moamar Kadaffy? What about Iraq's invasion of Kuwait or Saddam torching the oil wells? While the U.S.'s record isn't lily white, blame also lies elsewhere. Maybe the W.M.D.s were a hoax, but Saddam used them before so would it be reasonable to assume he wouldn't be using them again?

Terrorism has certainly been around a long time - centuries in fact. However, you should know that the secret police in Iran under the Shah were trained by the CIA, so there is some connection. In fact without support of the US and Britain the Shah would not have remained in power as long as he did.

As for Saddam he received support from the US in the Iraq-Iran War. However, the gassing of the Kurds and invading Quwait seem to have been his own idea.

Amin and Qaddafy? You are right about them. They were both madmen.
 

Cliffy

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It seems that mad men gravitate to positions of political power in many countries, including North America.