Something Fishy in Canada. Very Fishy.

GreenFish66

House Member
Apr 16, 2008
2,717
10
38
www.myspace.com
Johnnny .."in canada, we rely heavily on the natural resource industry to put food on the table.... "

"Heavily" is the word..Their pavin the water ways here...In Canada our politicians give all that is Canadian (including our natural resources) to their business partners for free, leaving little food on the table for hard workers /slave drones..
 

Johnnny

Frontiersman
Jun 8, 2007
9,388
124
63
Third rock from the Sun
thats not true alot of canadians work for those companies, geologist, lumber jacks, miners, surveyors, fisherman, etc etc

Check out Toronto and Vancouver, they are loaded with offices for junior mineral exploration companies, and the support staff for them is tremendous...
 

mt_pockets1000

Council Member
Jun 22, 2006
1,292
29
48
Edmonton
I know it's not your point but it's 6 million, not 16 million. It's almost 2/3 less than what you are calling chump change. That's why I questioned the point of the hunt.
$6 million huh? Even chumpier....
The point of the hunt? It's obviously not about money. Although $6 million dollars will feed a lot of people in a year.
 

bobnoorduyn

Council Member
Nov 26, 2008
2,262
28
48
Mountain Veiw County
I know it's not your point but it's 6 million, not 16 million. It's almost 2/3 less than what you are calling chump change. That's why I questioned the point of the hunt.

$16 million was the value given to the 2006 seal hunt and $10 million for 2007 by the DFO (Deparment of Fisheries and Oceans). Statistics are slow to be published so guestimating the that this hunt is worth $6 million is pure speculation. But even if the guestimated figure is low, questioning the point of the hunt is akin to questioning a farmer's point to seed when grain prices are in the toilet. You won't know the value until it's all said and done.
 

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
6,770
137
63
The hypocrisy surrounding the animal rights groups and their continued attack against the hunt while other animals are being slaughter by the thousands is sickening and disturbing.

Back that up please. Something as general as that statement needs to be qualified, if you please.

Fact of the matter is the seal population is not in danger as the protesters would like you to believe. The population has exploded over the last 10 years. Does anyone understand the stress this is placing on our struggling cod stocks? Seals are so desperate for food they are swimming up rivers in search of a meal. The protesters in their infinite wisdom are so focused on saving the seals they have lost sight of the bigger picture.

There is a reason populations of a species explodes. Often when we are involved, it's go something to do with us cutting the numbers of their preditors down. Thus their numbers rise for a while until the natural balance is achieved. Usually through a shortage of food.

The Cod stocks were fished out by people not seals. So how can it be that the seal pelt harvest is to preserve the Cod fishery, which has at this point collapsed on the east coast?

Now shouldn't we just leave things alone and allow them to find a natural balance and then attempt to live within that balance? Or is the big picture not about to include balance?

My new mantra: Save a cod, club a protester.

That's your mantra? :roll:
 

Johnnny

Frontiersman
Jun 8, 2007
9,388
124
63
Third rock from the Sun
Is it just me or is the world trying to lecture us canadians on how we run our lives? Russia wants our land, france wants more ocean floor space by those islands of of newfoundland, people are attacking our industries with there touchy touchy feely attitudes.... Whats next america annexing the bitmuin feilds in the praires?
 

mt_pockets1000

Council Member
Jun 22, 2006
1,292
29
48
Edmonton
Back that up please. Something as general as that statement needs to be qualified, if you please.

Why PETA is the WORST kind of hypocrite
The IFAW is a $100 million a year entity. The seal hunt is their cash cow.

There is a reason populations of a species explodes. Often when we are involved, it's go something to do with us cutting the numbers of their preditors down. Thus their numbers rise for a while until the natural balance is achieved. Usually through a shortage of food.

The Cod stocks were fished out by people not seals. So how can it be that the seal pelt harvest is to preserve the Cod fishery, which has at this point collapsed on the east coast?

Now shouldn't we just leave things alone and allow them to find a natural balance and then attempt to live within that balance? Or is the big picture not about to include balance?

Man has already upset the natural balance through greed and lack of vision as far as the fishery goes. Seals eat cod, that's a fact. The increasing seal population is putting pressure on the existing cod stocks, which have dwindled to alarming levels already. My advice to anyone who wants the real story here is to talk to the people who fish these oceans daily. The fisherman can tell you with absolute accuracy whats going on in the oceans. They've been at odds with DFO, scientists and animal rights groups for decades but nobody wanted to listen. Now we have to deal with the situation at hand.

That's your mantra? :roll:

Tongue planted firmly in cheek of course...:smile:
 

shadowshiv

Dark Overlord
May 29, 2007
17,545
120
63
52
We may be witnessing the last hunt this year. I expect the IFAW, PETA, Greenpeace and the rest of the self-righteous treehuggers will win out on this one. But keep this in mind. The seal population now stands at about 5.5 million. Once the hunt is banned, expect the numbers to increase dramatically. The ecological unbalance will be so drastic that in 10 years time we will be overrun with seals. They will not only keep the cod stocks down but other species will be at risk as well. If this happens I say we put the people associated with these animal rights groups right where they belong...in the gallows. Feed them only water and seal meat.



Er....if you placed them in the gallows you would not have to feed them seal meat or give them water.;-):lol::p
 

mt_pockets1000

Council Member
Jun 22, 2006
1,292
29
48
Edmonton


Er....if you placed them in the gallows you would not have to feed them seal meat or give them water.;-):lol::p
Take me to the gallows pole....sounds grim. Perhaps a little to quick for our well meaning friends. Perhaps regular jail will do, so they can have time to think about their behaviour.
 

Unforgiven

Force majeure
May 28, 2007
6,770
137
63
Let's revise shall we?

You said:

The hypocrisy surrounding the animal rights groups and their continued attack against the hunt while other animals are being slaughter by the thousands is sickening and disturbing.

I asked you to back that up and so you post a link to Peta?
Come on, Peta is radical in comparison to most animal rights groups.
I don't see how you can seriously make the suggestion that they are in fact the model of animal rights groups.

Someone has to take the side of humane and ethical treatment of animals even during a harvest. We know what happens when there is only the side of only those who make a profit off a resource doing the talking.

Then you go on to finish with:

Man has already upset the natural balance through greed and lack of vision as far as the fishery goes. Seals eat cod, that's a fact. The increasing seal population is putting pressure on the existing cod stocks, which have dwindled to alarming levels already. My advice to anyone who wants the real story here is to talk to the people who fish these oceans daily. The fisherman can tell you with absolute accuracy whats going on in the oceans. They've been at odds with DFO, scientists and animal rights groups for decades but nobody wanted to listen. Now we have to deal with the situation at hand.

Well when you say "Man" you actually mean the people who fish these oceans daily. It wasn't the farmers who fished out the fishery. It wasn't the seals who run factory fishing vessels off the Grand Banks. That was the fishermen who despite what DFO, scientists and animal rights groups said, choose money over all else and took more than the resource could sustain until the fishery collapsed.

So why in the world do we have to listen to the same bad ideas that brought down the fishery when it's obvious that they will take all they can regardless of the damage it leaves for future generations of Maritimers and the inbalance it creates in the ecosystem?

Tongue planted firmly in cheek of course...:smile:

Indeed.